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I would be curious what Charles thinks and what he sees from his experience of tutoring people.

I would say if you are struggling or basically hitting less than 80 or 90% correct on easy questions, I wouldn’t just do more questions but I would address the core issue.

The emphasis is always on analyzing your performance and reacting if it doesn’t meet expectations.

Please note that in my experience “ more questions will fix this problem” or “ let me just take more questions” is not the solution. If you are expecting a 90% accuracy on easy questions, and you suddenly hit 60% for example then everything should stop a crisis should be announced and you should examine what the heck went wrong. You never know how the real test is going to go so you never want to dismiss valid signals about your performance. Then you should act on it, go and study, review and spend time learning or relearning material and only then attempt another set of questions and this should be a fairly minimal set. If all you’re doing is just easy questions for example you can take five if you’re mixing easy and medium you can probably take eight and if you’re mixing easy and medium and card you can probably take 10 and that will give you enough data points about how you’re doing on a particular topic.

Again I know Charles and I differ substantially on some points of advice so don’t take this by any means as a more correct recommendation, I’m just hijacking his topic 😂
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But if you are doing well in easy questions, it’s not a mistake to do too many easy questions. It’s OK if it gets repetitive and tiring but I’m yet to see anyone in their debrief blame focusing on easy questions as the reason for their failure. It’s usually people who chase the super hard questions and never see any of them on the test because they can never get through the medium ones.

PS. You are correct that the biggest value and how do I come from doing easy and medium questions. Even if you only get half the hard ones right but you get over 90% of easy and medium ones, you’ll walk away with a strong score.
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Hi GMATNinja, another week another grind.

As I read the “Interpret the Results” section, I’m surprised by the constraint of needing to be within 5 points of my score goals. I’d be really happy to add those 4–5 points in the remaining weeks, although that might be too optimistic.

Also, I feel like I should be able to jump from successfully completing mid-easy questions (<2 min) directly to mid-difficulty ones (<2 min). After revisiting previous weeks, most of the work was on sub-555 questions (maybe there were some mid-high difficulty questions via mixed sets, which I interpreted as optional vs. the dedicated sub-555 set). So how can I be expected to score high if most of the volume is around easy questions?

I feel a little left out when I read that I’m supposed to be within 5 points of my goal scores or else pause the strategy given I haven’t improved much from the beginning (already scoring 78s in Quant).

- Are high scores built from practicing easy/mid-easy questions only?
- Would I be wasting my time (and sanity) if I focused on doing lots of sets of 605–705 questions? About the same volume we did for sub-555.
- What would you recommend for addressing such a problem?

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Broadly speaking, bb is spot-on here. If you're missing easier questions, there's no real point in moving forward with harder ones -- tougher questions are irrelevant unless you're doing well on easier ones.

So here's the big question: why do you think your scores are stuck in the high 70s? Is it because you're missing questions that you know how to answer correctly? If so, that's where you'll want to focus your energy. I think you've seen me write this before, but the difference between a 78 and a low-80s score might be just one or two errors on easier questions.

If, on the other hand, you're reliably nailing easier questions, that's a different story. Maybe you should be practicing harder questions -- and that's why we give you the option of mixed difficulty questions starting early in the study plan. If you're doing well on the easy ones, you'll want to graduate to mixed sets fairly quickly.

Put another way: obviously, the study plan can't diagnose your problems, but the idea is that there's plenty of flexibility built into it, as long as you can recognize your own problems (perhaps with help from the long-winded "interpreting your results" section each week). Stick with the easy questions if those are the issue; move on to harder questions if they aren't.

The tough thing is that five points might not sound like much, but it's quite a bit on this version of the GMAT. It's HARD to get an 83 on quant, and two things are true at the same time:

  1. A couple of careless mistakes can easily knock an 83-level scorer down to a 78.
  2. If your skills are really at a 78 level, it can be a long journey to an 83 on quant.

Again, I don't know whether your issue is execution (careless mistakes, for example) or skill (your quant foundations are shaky in some way, and you struggle on mid-level questions at times) -- or a mix of the two. If it's more about execution, you need to fix those problems ASAP, and nothing else really matters much until you do. If skill is the problem, that's fixable -- but might take some time. From your posts, I have the vague impression that this is more of a story about execution -- but I obviously don't know for sure, and that's something you'll have to figure out before you move forward.

I hope that helps a bit!
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Thank you so much again for your time and answer,

Answering your questions I have done more silly errors lately, specially as the weeks have passed (probably because of coming back to my full-time job after vacation plus been spending more a more hours as results did not advance at the pace I expected) but what shocks me the most is this anxiety/mind blowing experience I get whenever I come across a mid 600s question or higher, specially on the mock exams.

I have the impression that the knowledge I've been acquiring from the guides and the skills I then apply to most of the question sets are completely different from the knowledge and skills I need to complete those mid to difficult questions but again I do not want to fall in the trap of frying my brain with difficult questions if what I lack must come from the basic concepts in the books and the basic skills tested on easier questions.

So my decision here is to reinforce the theory for now a couple of days, rewatching some videos and books and coming back again with mixed sets for each topic.

GMATNinja

Broadly speaking, bb is spot-on here. If you're missing easier questions, there's no real point in moving forward with harder ones -- tougher questions are irrelevant unless you're doing well on easier ones.

So here's the big question: why do you think your scores are stuck in the high 70s? Is it because you're missing questions that you know how to answer correctly? If so, that's where you'll want to focus your energy. I think you've seen me write this before, but the difference between a 78 and a low-80s score might be just one or two errors on easier questions.

If, on the other hand, you're reliably nailing easier questions, that's a different story. Maybe you should be practicing harder questions -- and that's why we give you the option of mixed difficulty questions starting early in the study plan. If you're doing well on the easy ones, you'll want to graduate to mixed sets fairly quickly.

Put another way: obviously, the study plan can't diagnose your problems, but the idea is that there's plenty of flexibility built into it, as long as you can recognize your own problems (perhaps with help from the long-winded "interpreting your results" section each week). Stick with the easy questions if those are the issue; move on to harder questions if they aren't.

The tough thing is that five points might not sound like much, but it's quite a bit on this version of the GMAT. It's HARD to get an 83 on quant, and two things are true at the same time:

  1. A couple of careless mistakes can easily knock an 83-level scorer down to a 78.
  2. If your skills are really at a 78 level, it can be a long journey to an 83 on quant.

Again, I don't know whether your issue is execution (careless mistakes, for example) or skill (your quant foundations are shaky in some way, and you struggle on mid-level questions at times) -- or a mix of the two. If it's more about execution, you need to fix those problems ASAP, and nothing else really matters much until you do. If skill is the problem, that's fixable -- but might take some time. From your posts, I have the vague impression that this is more of a story about execution -- but I obviously don't know for sure, and that's something you'll have to figure out before you move forward.

I hope that helps a bit!
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Thank you so much for your answer here,

After analysing the situation these last couple of days and your feedback I do believe the best strategy now is to review as you said this 'basics' and build on them again, maybe at a steeper pace than before, acknowledging each and every alert signal that might come from low accuracy on low-mid questions.

I know there are some discussion in the forum around this but I have the question of whether to focus on a specific topic and not giving up on it until I completely master it or mix it around and steep up the difficulty evenly.

Thank you again!

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I would be curious what Charles thinks and what he sees from his experience of tutoring people.

I would say if you are struggling or basically hitting less than 80 or 90% correct on easy questions, I wouldn’t just do more questions but I would address the core issue.

The emphasis is always on analyzing your performance and reacting if it doesn’t meet expectations.

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Again I know Charles and I differ substantially on some points of advice so don’t take this by any means as a more correct recommendation, I’m just hijacking his topic 😂
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I'm having such fluctuating results on my CR, even on the same difficulty level.
Could you give me some suggestions on how I should deal with this?

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6 CR GMAT OG(25-26) Easy 68%
6 CR GMAT Verbal Guide Medium 76%
7 CR GMAT Verbal Guide Medium 95%
7 CR GMAT OG(25-26) Medium 68%
8 CR GMAT OG(25-26) Medium 76%
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I'm having such fluctuating results on my CR, even on the same difficulty level.
Could you give me some suggestions on how I should deal with this?

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6 CR GMAT OG(25-26) Easy 68%
6 CR GMAT Verbal Guide Medium 76%
7 CR GMAT Verbal Guide Medium 95%
7 CR GMAT OG(25-26) Medium 68%
8 CR GMAT OG(25-26) Medium 76%
9 CR GMAT Verbal Guide Medium 64%
A few thoughts:


1. For a moment, let's assume that these results are truly accurate and meaningful, and are a sign of genuine inconsistency in your performance. If that's the case, your approach is definitely inconsistent: on different days, maybe you read with different intensity, you think differently about passage structure, you become more or less attuned to small details, you're more or less disciplined about process of elimination, you're tired/hungry/distracted/anxious on certain days, and so on. If that's the case, you'll want to take a hard look at your methodology, and see what you can improve; this video series might help if you haven't already watched it -- but to diagnose your own weaknesses, you probably need introspection more than you need the video lessons.


2. The difficulty ratings in the official GMAT materials aren't 100% reliable, and there's probably a fair amount of variation in the difficulties between these six sets. Notably, if we remove that 95% result, the rest fall within a fairly narrow range. It makes me wonder what happened on that 95% set -- is that the one time that you nailed the process, or was it a fluke (maybe driven by either familiar or unusually easy questions)? If it's the latter, then maybe you had one lucky set, and you're not so inconsistent after all?

3. Have you done any LSAT sets for CR and RC? Every LSAT set is roughly the same difficulty and length, so if your approach is inconsistent, you'll see it immediately in the data -- if the times or accuracy fluctuate by more than a couple of errors (or minutes), it's definitely because you're doing something different on different days. We can't quite say the same thing about the GMAT sets, since they do vary somewhat in difficulty, even within "medium" sets.

Give all of that some thought, and let's see if it helps at all?

Have fun studying, and congrats on surviving far more of the study plan than most students!
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