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Twelve years ago and again five years ago, there were extended periods when the Darfir Republic's currency, the pundra, was weak: its value was unusually low relative to the world's most stable currencies. Both times a weak pundra made Darfir's manufactured products a bargain on world markets, and Darfir's exports were up substantially. Now some politicians are saying that, in order to cause another similarly sized increase in exports, the government should allow the pundra to become weak again.

Which of the following, if true, provides the government with the strongest grounds to doubt that the politicians' recommendation, if followed, will achieve its aim?

(A) Several of the politicians now recommending that the pundra be allowed to become weak made that same recommendation before each of the last two periods of currency weakness.
(B) After several decades of operating well below peak capacity, Darfir's manufacturing sector is now operating at near-peak levels.
(C) The economy of a country experiencing a rise in exports will become healthier only if the country's currency is strong or the rise in exports is significant.
(D) Those countries whose manufactured products compete with Darfir's on the world market all currently have stable currencies.
(E) A sharp improvement in the efficiency of Darfir's manufacturing plants would make Darfir's products a bargain on world markets even without any weakening of the pundra relative to other currencies.


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to me the essence of the given argument is little unclear.
further if someone could also explain why OA is the logical answer, it would be very helpful


Can someone please explain me how E is incorrect?

Isnt it of the form cause and effect.

As per the argument -- weakening of pundra causes Darfir's manufactured exports to rise. In E option its giving another cause for the same effect. So cant it weaken the argument?

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Twelve years ago and again five years ago, there were extended periods when the Darfir Republic's currency, the pundra, was weak: its value was unusually low relative to the world's most stable currencies. Both times a weak pundra made Darfir's manufactured products a bargain on world markets, and Darfir's exports were up substantially. Now some politicians are saying that, in order to cause another similarly sized increase in exports, the government should allow the pundra to become weak again.

Which of the following, if true, provides the government with the strongest grounds to doubt that the politicians' recommendation, if followed, will achieve its aim?

(A) Several of the politicians now recommending that the pundra be allowed to become weak made that same recommendation before each of the last two periods of currency weakness.
(B) After several decades of operating well below peak capacity, Darfir's manufacturing sector is now operating at near-peak levels.
(C) The economy of a country experiencing a rise in exports will become healthier only if the country's currency is strong or the rise in exports is significant.
(D) Those countries whose manufactured products compete with Darfir's on the world market all currently have stable currencies.
(E) A sharp improvement in the efficiency of Darfir's manufacturing plants would make Darfir's products a bargain on world markets even without any weakening of the pundra relative to other currencies.


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to me the essence of the given argument is little unclear.
further if someone could also explain why OA is the logical answer, it would be very helpful


Can someone please explain me how E is incorrect?

Isnt it of the form cause and effect.

As per the argument -- weakening of pundra causes Darfir's manufactured exports to rise. In E option its giving another cause for the same effect. So cant it weaken the argument?

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THAT IS NOT A WEAKENER.

see one example:

by drinking milk one can become healthy.

what is conclusion: drink milk will result you in good health.
does this says that drinking milk is the only way to make good health?..answer is NO.

now if you say by eating fruits one can become healthy.==>does this weaken above statement.? NO

only way to weaken is by showing that by drinking milk we are not GOING to achieve good heslth.

now see orginal problem.:
politician say =>decrease pundra==>increase bargain==>increase export

so you cant weaken by saying that
increase production of industries ==>increase bargain==>increase export

compare with above given example.

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Hi As you can see in the answer choice E, Darfir's manufacturing plants would make Darfir's products a bargain, but not for sure. So, it's not a weakener.
A weakener should be able to weaken it completely.

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Twelve years ago and again five years ago, there were extended periods when the Darfir Republic's currency, the pundra, was weak: its value was unusually low relative to the world's most stable currencies. Both times a weak pundra made Darfir's manufactured products a bargain on world markets, and Darfir's exports were up substantially. Now some politicians are saying that, in order to cause another similarly sized increase in exports, the government should allow the pundra to become weak again.




Which of the following, if true, provides the government with the strongest grounds to doubt that the politicians' recommendation, if followed, will achieve its aim?

(A) Several of the politicians now recommending that the pundra be allowed to become weak made that same recommendation before each of the last two periods of currency weakness.
(B) After several decades of operating well below peak capacity, Darfir's manufacturing sector is now operating at near-peak levels.
(C) The economy of a country experiencing a rise in exports will become healthier only if the country's currency is strong or the rise in exports is significant.
(D) Those countries whose manufactured products compete with Darfir's on the world market all currently have stable currencies.
(E) A sharp improvement in the efficiency of Darfir's manufacturing plants would make Darfir's products a bargain on world markets even without any weakening of the pundra relative to other currencies.


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The answer is B guys.

E would have been a valid option if it was a weaken question.
The question is talking about undermining the politician recommendation.

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Twelve years ago and again five years ago, there were extended periods when the Darfir Republic’s currency, the pundra, was weak: its value was unusually low relative to the world’s most stable currencies. Both times a weak pundra made Darfir’s manufactured products a bargain on world markets, and Darfir’s exports were up substantially. Now some politicians are saying that, in order to cause another similarly sized increase in exports, the government should allow the pundra to become weak again.

Which of the following, if true, provides the government with the strongest grounds to doubt that the politicians’ recommendation, if followed, will achieve its aim?"

A) Several of the politicians now recommending that the pundra be allowed to become weak made that same recommendation before each of the last two periods of currency weakness - How does it affect the argument? - Out of scope.

B) After several decades of operating well below peak capacity, Darfir’s manufacturing sector is now operating at near-peak levels. - Correct
If the manufacturing sector is at the peak levels and if the currency is allowed to drop compared to the other currencies, the manufacturing sector will not be able to support the extra demand which is generated and the plan will fail.


C) The economy of a country experiencing a rise in exports will become healthier only if the country’s currency is strong or the rise in exports is significant.
We are not talking about making the economy healthier.

D) Those countries whose manufactured products compete with Darfir’s on the world market all currently have stable currencies.
- Supports the argument.

E) A sharp improvement in the efficiency of Darfir’s manufacturing plants would make Darfir’s products a bargain on world markets even without any weakening of the pundra relative to other currencies. - Alternate reasoning to make the Dafir's Product popular but we need to find an option that makes the plan fail.
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FOR ANYONE WHO CHOSE C, please consider writing down the objective for every plan in any sort of evaluating/strengthen/weaken a plan question. This will really help when ur brain is exhausted from the quantitative and other bs, trust me being safe and organized is much better than losing 3 or 4 percentage points due to questions like this! :!:
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The answer is B. Because it might be possible to have an alternate route to achieve similar goals, this doesn't discredit the current plan.
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The answer is B. Because it might be possible to have an alternate route to achieve similar goals, this doesn't discredit the current plan.
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Hi,

This kind of question is has a cause effect realtionship: if the country weakens the currency-> exports will increase. I thought that one of the possibilities to weaken this kind of questions is to find an alternative cause that will lead to the same effect.

Hence, I think that answer E (A sharp improvement in the efficiency of Darfir’s manufacturing plants would make Darfir’s products a bargain on world markets even without any weakening of the pundra relative to other currencies) provides an alternitve cause to reach the same effect ("increase exports"). Where I am wrong?

Answer B (After several decades of operating well below peak capacity, Darfir’s manufacturing sector is now operating at near-peak levels) streghtens the argument, because if they are doing great now, it is an input that the goverment plan works out?

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Hello Kyle

I had one small concern here - Even if the manufacturing is operating at peak levels, it is not necessary that Darfir has no extraneous stock which it cannot export. In going with B, we are kind of assuming that to export, Darfir will have to produce extra which is not necessarily true - For e.g. - It might be the case that they produce for exports but are not able to sell in the market. If the currency is devalued,the exports become relevant.

Am I overthinking here?

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Twelve years ago and again five years ago, there were extended periods when the Darfir Republic's currency, the pundra, was weak: its value was unusually low relative to the world's most stable currencies. Both times a weak pundra made Darfir's manufactured products a bargain on world markets, and Darfir's exports were up substantially. Now some politicians are saying that, in order to cause another similarly sized increase in exports, the government should allow the pundra to become weak again.

Which of the following, if true, provides the government with the strongest grounds to doubt that the politicians' recommendation, if followed, will achieve its aim?

(A) Several of the politicians now recommending that the pundra be allowed to become weak made that same recommendation before each of the last two periods of currency weakness.
(B) After several decades of operating well below peak capacity, Darfir's manufacturing sector is now operating at near-peak levels.
(C) The economy of a country experiencing a rise in exports will become healthier only if the country's currency is strong or the rise in exports is significant.
(D) Those countries whose manufactured products compete with Darfir's on the world market all currently have stable currencies.
(E) A sharp improvement in the efficiency of Darfir's manufacturing plants would make Darfir's products a bargain on world markets even without any weakening of the pundra relative to other currencies.


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to me the essence of the given argument is little unclear.
further if someone could also explain why OA is the logical answer, it would be very helpful


The argument states that during periods of weak currency (lower value vs other countries), Darfir experience a sharp INCREASE in exports. Politicians are suggesting that the country intentionally weaken the currency so Darfir can experience a similar INCREASE in exports.

The correct answer to this 'weaken' question needs to ATTACK a necessary assumption to the politicians plan.

A-If anything, this answer strengthens the position of the politicians
B-This answer choice (correct) states that manufacturing is already at peak levels. That means that even if the currency become devalued and demand for products increases, Darfir would not be able to increase manufacturing to meet that demand. The conclusion of the politicians is completely weakened (if not destroyed). [Note: the assumption you are attacking here is as follows: Politicians are assuming that Darfir is able to increase production to meet the increase in demand that would result from a devalued currency.]
C-Out of scope answer
D-Out of scope (or perhaps even a little strengthening)
E-Out of scope

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Twelve years ago and again five years ago, there were extended periods when the Darfir Republic’s currency, the pundra, was weak: its value was unusually low relative to the world’s most stable currencies. Both times a weak pundra made Darfir’s manufactured products a bargain on world markets, and Darfir’s exports were up substantially. Now some politicians are saying that, in order to cause another similarly sized increase in exports, the government should allow the pundra to become weak again.

Which of the following, if true, provides the government with the strongest grounds to doubt that the politicians’ recommendation, if followed, will achieve its aim?"

A) Several of the politicians now recommending that the pundra be allowed to become weak made that same recommendation before each of the last two periods of currency weakness - How does it affect the argument? - Out of scope.

B) After several decades of operating well below peak capacity, Darfir’s manufacturing sector is now operating at near-peak levels. - Correct
If the manufacturing sector is at the peak levels and if the currency is allowed to drop compared to the other currencies, the manufacturing sector will not be able to support the extra demand which is generated and the plan will fail.


C) The economy of a country experiencing a rise in exports will become healthier only if the country’s currency is strong or the rise in exports is significant.
We are not talking about making the economy healthier.

D) Those countries whose manufactured products compete with Darfir’s on the world market all currently have stable currencies.
- Supports the argument.

E) A sharp improvement in the efficiency of Darfir’s manufacturing plants would make Darfir’s products a bargain on world markets even without any weakening of the pundra relative to other currencies. - Alternate reasoning to make the Dafir's Product popular but we need to find an option that makes the plan fail.


Honestly, a question which only makes sense after reading the explanation. I wonder if I can ever master CR.!!!

Is there a strategy to approach weaken the argument questions?
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Weaken the argument questions rely heavily on your ability to understand the assumptions made in the argument because the answer essentially attacks an assumption. How are you at assumption questions?
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I had one small concern here - Even if the manufacturing is operating at peak levels, it is not necessary that Darfir has no extraneous stock which it cannot export. In going with B, we are kind of assuming that to export, Darfir will have to produce extra which is not necessarily true - For e.g. - It might be the case that they produce for exports but are not able to sell in the market. If the currency is devalued,the exports become relevant.

Am I overthinking here?

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Twelve years ago and again five years ago, there were extended periods when the Darfir Republic's currency, the pundra, was weak: its value was unusually low relative to the world's most stable currencies. Both times a weak pundra made Darfir's manufactured products a bargain on world markets, and Darfir's exports were up substantially. Now some politicians are saying that, in order to cause another similarly sized increase in exports, the government should allow the pundra to become weak again.

Which of the following, if true, provides the government with the strongest grounds to doubt that the politicians' recommendation, if followed, will achieve its aim?

(A) Several of the politicians now recommending that the pundra be allowed to become weak made that same recommendation before each of the last two periods of currency weakness.
(B) After several decades of operating well below peak capacity, Darfir's manufacturing sector is now operating at near-peak levels.
(C) The economy of a country experiencing a rise in exports will become healthier only if the country's currency is strong or the rise in exports is significant.
(D) Those countries whose manufactured products compete with Darfir's on the world market all currently have stable currencies.
(E) A sharp improvement in the efficiency of Darfir's manufacturing plants would make Darfir's products a bargain on world markets even without any weakening of the pundra relative to other currencies.


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to me the essence of the given argument is little unclear.
further if someone could also explain why OA is the logical answer, it would be very helpful


The argument states that during periods of weak currency (lower value vs other countries), Darfir experience a sharp INCREASE in exports. Politicians are suggesting that the country intentionally weaken the currency so Darfir can experience a similar INCREASE in exports.

The correct answer to this 'weaken' question needs to ATTACK a necessary assumption to the politicians plan.

A-If anything, this answer strengthens the position of the politicians
B-This answer choice (correct) states that manufacturing is already at peak levels. That means that even if the currency become devalued and demand for products increases, Darfir would not be able to increase manufacturing to meet that demand. The conclusion of the politicians is completely weakened (if not destroyed). [Note: the assumption you are attacking here is as follows: Politicians are assuming that Darfir is able to increase production to meet the increase in demand that would result from a devalued currency.]
C-Out of scope answer
D-Out of scope (or perhaps even a little strengthening)
E-Out of scope

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Hi KyleWiddison,

I have the same question. Why do we have to assume that to satisfy the demand for exports we need to manufacture more ?
I realised that supply might still be more as compared to the demand and thus eliminated this answer choice.
Where did I go wrong here ?
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From egmat -
Let’s suppose the argument says that

Eating sugar leads to obesity.

Can we weaken this statement by saying that

Eating oil leads to obesity.
The answer is No.


Why? Because the author is not saying that only eating sugar leads to obesity. The author is only saying that eating sugar is one of the ways to get obese. Even from common understanding, we all know that both of these things i.e. eating sugar and eating oil lead to obesity. The fact that eating oil makes you obese has no impact on the likelihood of the fact that eating sugar leads to obesity. In other words, saying that there are multiple ways to achieve the same objective does not weaken the conclusion which only states one of the ways to reach the objective.

Now the modified Version -
Eating sugar made Jon obese.

Can we weaken my statement by saying that -


Eating oil made Jon obese.


The answer here is Yes. In this argument, we are essentially talking about a specific case i.e. what made Jon obese. Here, it is given knowledge that Jon is obese, what the argument or the conclusion provides is a reason that made Jon obese.


A great explanation by using the same question as an example -
I found it really helpful.

https://e-gmat.com/blog/gmat-verbal/cri ... e-weakener
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Twelve years ago and again five years ago, there were extended periods when the Darfir Republic's currency,
the pundra, was weak: its value was unusually low relative to the world's most stable currencies. Both times a
weak pundra made Darfir's manufactured products a bargain on world markets, and Darfir's exports were up
substantially. Now some politicians are saying that, in order to cause another similarly sized increase in
exports, the government should allow the pundra to become weak again.

Which of the following, if true, provides the government with the strongest grounds to doubt that the politicians'
recommendation, if followed, will achieve its aim?


A. Several of the politicians now recommending that the pundra be allowed to become weak made that same
recommendation before each of the last two periods of currency weakness.
B. After several decades of operating well below peak capacity, Darfir's manufacturing sector is now operating at
near-peak levels.
C. The economy of a country experiencing a rise in exports will become healthier only if the country's currency is
strong or the rise in exports is significant.
D. Those countries whose manufactured products compete with Darfir's on the world market all currently have
stable currencies.
E. A sharp improvement in the efficiency of Darfir's manufacturing plants would make Darfir's products a bargain
on world markets even without any weakening of the pundra relative to other currencies.
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Twelve years ago and again five years ago, there were extended periods when the Darfir Republic's currency,
the pundra, was weak: its value was unusually low relative to the world's most stable currencies. Both times a
weak pundra made Darfir's manufactured products a bargain on world markets, and Darfir's exports were up
substantially. Now some politicians are saying that, in order to cause another similarly sized increase in
exports, the government should allow the pundra to become weak again.

Which of the following, if true, provides the government with the strongest grounds to doubt that the politicians'
recommendation, if followed, will achieve its aim?


A. Several of the politicians now recommending that the pundra be allowed to become weak made that same
recommendation before each of the last two periods of currency weakness.
B. After several decades of operating well below peak capacity, Darfir's manufacturing sector is now operating at
near-peak levels.
C. The economy of a country experiencing a rise in exports will become healthier only if the country's currency is
strong or the rise in exports is significant.
D. Those countries whose manufactured products compete with Darfir's on the world market all currently have
stable currencies.
E. A sharp improvement in the efficiency of Darfir's manufacturing plants would make Darfir's products a bargain
on world markets even without any weakening of the pundra relative to other currencies.


Hi,

The key to this question is superlatives, i.e the two currency weakenings have already increased exports substantially and option B said manufacturing is at near peak level, therefore weakening the currency again is likely to have diminishing returns and this definitely weakens the politicians' proposal. Most of the other options are out of scope.

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I am now really pissed off, it takes me 15 second to identify the question type, and check whether there is negative words, such as but, except, not,...I do not still take the question stem into account.
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E is a classical trap, to weaken an argument, ones should never take an option containing an alternative plan or solution, but choose an option containing an alternative cause in the argument.
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2005 and 2012 Pundra was weak, exports were high substantially ------------------2017 politician are saying to make Pundra weak again to level up exports
as per B) -> Manufacturing plants are at near peak levels => lets suppose max they can make 100 and they are producing 98 or say 99 => rise of 2 products wont be that substantial as was in 2005 and 2012
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