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Hi All,
Super glad to announce that I received an admit from UC Davis FT-MBA and Carlson - Management Science MBA.
My background: Indian, Worked in HR-Tech and FinTech with software development profile. Looking to move to Product Management.
I have received a $40k scholarship from both schools. Both are STEM so that's a major plus as an International Student. Tuition comes out to be the same in both cases. Just the living costs in California will be higher.
Location wise without a doubt Davis has the upper hand. And since major advantages. The weather is obviously better.
However, the only thing I am concerned about with Davis is the class size of 45-50 students. If I enroll for an elective how many other students would have also enrolled for the same elective. Would it provide a similar learning experience as compared to a class size of 80-100 students?
When it comes to Carlson, it has a larger class size (85-90). Better rankings on Bloomberg. Also has access to a vast alumni network being part of Uni of Minnesota. Location wise it isn't all that bad, since it has access to plenty of fortune 500s and a few small-scale companies in Minneapolis. It has a lot more student clubs and probably has better resources considering the size of the university.
The only concern with Carlson is job prospects as an international and getting opportunities for Product Management in the mid-west. Or how hard is it to network and find opportunities in the west while living in the midwest?
Any help would be well appreciated.
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Also when I looked at the placement reports for both the schools, Davis has 84% after 6 months whereas at Carlson 90% received an offer within 3 months. However, internationals are 35% at Davis and 19% at Carlson.
bb
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Hi bb I guess tables have turned in my favor. I got admits from all other schools I applied to as well with very gracious scholarships.
WP Carey 100% + GA
Mendoza 70%
Wisconsin 25%
Carlson 40%
UC Davis 40%.
It's really a great spot to be in. But as an International student getting the opportunity to go to business school without any financial burden seems like the right way to go, hence I am super inclined towards WP Carey.
Super glad to announce that I received an admit from UC Davis FT-MBA and Carlson - Management Science MBA.
My background: Indian, Worked in HR-Tech and FinTech with software development profile. Looking to move to Product Management.
I have received a $40k scholarship from both schools. Both are STEM so that's a major plus as an International Student. Tuition comes out to be the same in both cases. Just the living costs in California will be higher.
Location wise without a doubt Davis has the upper hand. And since major advantages. The weather is obviously better.
However, the only thing I am concerned about with Davis is the class size of 45-50 students. If I enroll for an elective how many other students would have also enrolled for the same elective. Would it provide a similar learning experience as compared to a class size of 80-100 students?
When it comes to Carlson, it has a larger class size (85-90). Better rankings on Bloomberg. Also has access to a vast alumni network being part of Uni of Minnesota. Location wise it isn't all that bad, since it has access to plenty of fortune 500s and a few small-scale companies in Minneapolis. It has a lot more student clubs and probably has better resources considering the size of the university.
The only concern with Carlson is job prospects as an international and getting opportunities for Product Management in the mid-west. Or how hard is it to network and find opportunities in the west while living in the midwest?
Any help would be well appreciated.
------------Edit
Also when I looked at the placement reports for both the schools, Davis has 84% after 6 months whereas at Carlson 90% received an offer within 3 months. However, internationals are 35% at Davis and 19% at Carlson.
bb
------------Edit
Hi bb I guess tables have turned in my favor. I got admits from all other schools I applied to as well with very gracious scholarships.
WP Carey 100% + GA
Mendoza 70%
Wisconsin 25%
Carlson 40%
UC Davis 40%.
It's really a great spot to be in. But as an International student getting the opportunity to go to business school without any financial burden seems like the right way to go, hence I am super inclined towards WP Carey.
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Hi. Congrats on your admits!
It is a bit of a tricky choice. I am going to guess that on campus recruiting is going to be rather weak since no company wants to visit a class of 45 or 90 students
and only alums and other similar prospective employers will be helping out.
Carlson has much better rankings than Davis: https://gmatclub.com/forum/mba-rankings ... 99812.html
I wonder if Davis would help with reconsidering the scholarship amount or perhaps helping with a fellowship or another form of financial aid such as TA having seen the Carlson admit and scholarship letters.
Minnesota is crazy cold and super white so you will stand out quite a bit but it has a larger class size and it seems to hold its strength in MN. US bank is there and a few other employers, though they are not super friendly to international students, unfortunately.
Putting myself in your shoes, I think there are many pros and cons that are not primary and conflicting somewhat (slightly higher rank, proximity to bay area, climate, whiteness, middle of nowhere vs. city, class size, etc). You can easily have your head spin for months... and you probably will
I would suggest trying to make as much of a difference between the 2 programs:
1. Immediately start networking with students from both schools and get their input. Both will likely complain about recruiting or brag about it needlessly, but you have to look through that and figure out where you would fit in better
2. Try to look for more money at both programs as mentioned.
3. What do you want to do during your MBA? What is the most important for you day to day? What environment would be the best?
4. I could see trading off slightly higher rank of Carlson and their class size for Davis, though it is a very small program but it is not like you are going to blow anyone's sox off with Carlson's name on your resume. If you have most of your potential employers in Bay Area, then you need to be closer to it. Proximity is not as critical these days as it was 2 years ago when you had to do in person coffee chats, attend mixers, network, etc. It is possible to do it remotely but your network would be local and the sphere of influence of your alum networks would be local as well with more Davis grads being in Bay Area
5. Do you have any family anywhere in the US? Distant relatives even? If yes, the closer to them you are, the better
6. Don't worry about small things like electives, classes, or professors, you will never know who will actually teach or what will be offered, so don't stress about it. You will be fine with classes.
7. Search for PM jobs in Minneapolis to see what you can find to give you an idea of what's avialable and employers that are there
Good luck!
It is a bit of a tricky choice. I am going to guess that on campus recruiting is going to be rather weak since no company wants to visit a class of 45 or 90 students
and only alums and other similar prospective employers will be helping out. Carlson has much better rankings than Davis: https://gmatclub.com/forum/mba-rankings ... 99812.html
I wonder if Davis would help with reconsidering the scholarship amount or perhaps helping with a fellowship or another form of financial aid such as TA having seen the Carlson admit and scholarship letters.
Minnesota is crazy cold and super white so you will stand out quite a bit but it has a larger class size and it seems to hold its strength in MN. US bank is there and a few other employers, though they are not super friendly to international students, unfortunately.
Putting myself in your shoes, I think there are many pros and cons that are not primary and conflicting somewhat (slightly higher rank, proximity to bay area, climate, whiteness, middle of nowhere vs. city, class size, etc). You can easily have your head spin for months... and you probably will
I would suggest trying to make as much of a difference between the 2 programs:
1. Immediately start networking with students from both schools and get their input. Both will likely complain about recruiting or brag about it needlessly, but you have to look through that and figure out where you would fit in better
2. Try to look for more money at both programs as mentioned.
3. What do you want to do during your MBA? What is the most important for you day to day? What environment would be the best?
4. I could see trading off slightly higher rank of Carlson and their class size for Davis, though it is a very small program but it is not like you are going to blow anyone's sox off with Carlson's name on your resume. If you have most of your potential employers in Bay Area, then you need to be closer to it. Proximity is not as critical these days as it was 2 years ago when you had to do in person coffee chats, attend mixers, network, etc. It is possible to do it remotely but your network would be local and the sphere of influence of your alum networks would be local as well with more Davis grads being in Bay Area
5. Do you have any family anywhere in the US? Distant relatives even? If yes, the closer to them you are, the better
6. Don't worry about small things like electives, classes, or professors, you will never know who will actually teach or what will be offered, so don't stress about it. You will be fine with classes.
7. Search for PM jobs in Minneapolis to see what you can find to give you an idea of what's avialable and employers that are there
Good luck!
