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30 Mar 2009, 03:34
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Hi jacket882,
1) It's difficult for me to say, as I don't know how cometitive recruitment in London is. I can say that the offer-to-first-round-interview is around 10% (maybe something less) at MBB offices in Italy (first-interview-to-CV is 10% as well). McKinsey and Bain's offices in Milan are huge (350 people), possibly bigger of the London ones, while BCG has fewer people (about 100), so the opportunity is there.
Despite what every HR will tell you, the bar varies a lot across market cycles: being hired now is almost impossible if you're not part of the MBA round, and even so quite competitive.
If you are an international and you can speak Italian fluently, you stand a huge advantage. If you are not English, that's even better since you would know another European language fluently (ideal would be Eastern Europe). The thing is, you have to be fluent in spoken and written Italian, even if you are not impeccable: if not, you hardly have a chance to be extended a full-time offer (Italian is the language of most engagements).
2) GMAT - If you have an above 700 score, report it on your résumé. If not, don't. No one will ever ask you for that nor having a 790 will matter past the CV selection step. It all boils down to how well you do in the case, 750+ scores who can't asnwer a case in a simple and straightforward way are rejected on first round on a regular basis.
1) It's difficult for me to say, as I don't know how cometitive recruitment in London is. I can say that the offer-to-first-round-interview is around 10% (maybe something less) at MBB offices in Italy (first-interview-to-CV is 10% as well). McKinsey and Bain's offices in Milan are huge (350 people), possibly bigger of the London ones, while BCG has fewer people (about 100), so the opportunity is there.
Despite what every HR will tell you, the bar varies a lot across market cycles: being hired now is almost impossible if you're not part of the MBA round, and even so quite competitive.
If you are an international and you can speak Italian fluently, you stand a huge advantage. If you are not English, that's even better since you would know another European language fluently (ideal would be Eastern Europe). The thing is, you have to be fluent in spoken and written Italian, even if you are not impeccable: if not, you hardly have a chance to be extended a full-time offer (Italian is the language of most engagements).
2) GMAT - If you have an above 700 score, report it on your résumé. If not, don't. No one will ever ask you for that nor having a 790 will matter past the CV selection step. It all boils down to how well you do in the case, 750+ scores who can't asnwer a case in a simple and straightforward way are rejected on first round on a regular basis.
07 Sep 2009, 18:43
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Hi Paradosso,
I came across this link while I was researching on MC as a post MBA career option. Your posts made me a little more wiser on MC and I think I still would like to get into MC. I am not sure if you are still around answering Q's. But, let me post them anyway:
1. I would like to be an entrepreneur (not the tech or emerging technology types - more on different business models/newer markets/differentiated service type in an emerging economy(India)) at a future point in my career. I currently have experience in a operational/execution/implementation role (as opposed to a strategic role). I would like to know if MC would be a good intermediate point in my career post MBA, to gain some strategic and business development perspective and experience before I can jump into my own venture? In other words, how relevant is work ex in a strategy/growth/globalization practice at Big-3 to starting your own venture?
I am not sure if you will be able to answer Q.2 (it is more related to the US-Big 3 hiring policies).But I wish if someone else can throw some light on it.
2. I am currently working in the US on a H1 visa and I would have only 1.5 years of my 6 year limit available, when I graduate from bschool (I had already exhausted my OPT during my MS). So, I am wondering if a. M/B/Bs sponsor greencard for their employees? If they do, is there a wait time before they start the process?
b. Would they be more willing (or do they) to send their hires in the US to an international location to get around the visa issue (like how the banks did for their recruits this year to circumvent the visa problem due to TARP)
Thanks a ton for the great Q&A posts.
I came across this link while I was researching on MC as a post MBA career option. Your posts made me a little more wiser on MC and I think I still would like to get into MC. I am not sure if you are still around answering Q's. But, let me post them anyway:
1. I would like to be an entrepreneur (not the tech or emerging technology types - more on different business models/newer markets/differentiated service type in an emerging economy(India)) at a future point in my career. I currently have experience in a operational/execution/implementation role (as opposed to a strategic role). I would like to know if MC would be a good intermediate point in my career post MBA, to gain some strategic and business development perspective and experience before I can jump into my own venture? In other words, how relevant is work ex in a strategy/growth/globalization practice at Big-3 to starting your own venture?
I am not sure if you will be able to answer Q.2 (it is more related to the US-Big 3 hiring policies).But I wish if someone else can throw some light on it.
2. I am currently working in the US on a H1 visa and I would have only 1.5 years of my 6 year limit available, when I graduate from bschool (I had already exhausted my OPT during my MS). So, I am wondering if a. M/B/Bs sponsor greencard for their employees? If they do, is there a wait time before they start the process?
b. Would they be more willing (or do they) to send their hires in the US to an international location to get around the visa issue (like how the banks did for their recruits this year to circumvent the visa problem due to TARP)
Thanks a ton for the great Q&A posts.
09 Sep 2009, 18:58
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One more...
What is the age distribution of associates entering M/B/B? I will be 33 when I graduate(If I get into a school of my choice this year
). So, I wanted to know if older folks are common in the entry level associate position...Based on the age profile of people getting into b'schools, I want to think that the average age would be 29 for an entry level associate and the age distribution would match that of the b'school's class..But want to know others' thoughts as well on perceptions
What is the age distribution of associates entering M/B/B? I will be 33 when I graduate(If I get into a school of my choice this year
). So, I wanted to know if older folks are common in the entry level associate position...Based on the age profile of people getting into b'schools, I want to think that the average age would be 29 for an entry level associate and the age distribution would match that of the b'school's class..But want to know others' thoughts as well on perceptions 
. The more an office works abroad the more they can think to staff you around in English-speaking engagements, which are also very high-profile, so you better be good (my money says you fit that bill). So I say that for an American who is willing to learn languages, is very possible to work in Europe at Bain, quite possible to work at McK, difficult to work at BCG. Things change if you are willing to go to Kiev or Moscow, no one expects you to speak Russian there and you will make a lot of money.
