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Whether relative pronouns such as who, that, which etc can refer to both the elements of a compound noun or should it modify only the noun just in front.
Let's take the cue from Official examples.


Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

(A) Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of the Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader. -- Wrong, since the relative pronoun' that' refers to both the people but Chandler OWEN was never a labor leader.

(B) Published in Harlem, two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, were the owner and editor of the Messenger. --- wrong as for the same reasons in A.

(C) Published in Harlem, the Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen.-- correct structure. Note the interchange of the placement of the two nouns, since only PR became the labor later.

(D) The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and published in Harlem. -- same error as in A and B

(E) The owner and editor being two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, the Messenger was published in Harlem.-- same error as in A, B, and D.

OA is C. It is clear that wherever the pronoun has to refer to a particular individual thing. Then the noun and its pronoun should be separately stated; Otherwise, it is bound to refer to the compound noun. For example, we can say that the US and Britain, which fought the WWII together won a decisive victory. Therefore, pronoun reference is context related and not formula related.
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Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries, a permanently orbiting space station will have to generate its own electricity.

A. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries - Comparison issue - flights and space station
B. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, with sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries for their short flights - usage of with sufficient power is unclear-- what has sufficient power ; sufficient enough is redundant
C. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which enabled them to carry sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries - Comparison issue ; sufficient enough is redundant
D. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which were capable of carrying sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries for their short flights - Correct
E. the flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, whose shortness allowed them to carry sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries - Comparison issue

Answer D
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Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries, a permanently orbiting space station will have to generate its own electricity.

A. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries
B. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, with sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries for their short flights
C. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which enabled them to carry sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries
D. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which were capable of carrying sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries for their short flights
E. the flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, whose shortness allowed them to carry sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries



A. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries
B. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, with sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries for their short flights
C. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which enabled them to carry sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries
D. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which were capable of carrying sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries for their short flights
E. the flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, whose shortness allowed them to carry sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries
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Unlike the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries, a permanently orbiting space station will have to generate its own electricity.


A. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which carried sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries

B. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, with sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries for their short flights

C. the short flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which enabled them to carry sufficient enough power in fuel cells and batteries

D. the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which were capable of carrying sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries for their short flights

E. the flights of the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, whose shortness allowed them to carry sufficient power in fuel cells and batteries


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Option B has redundancy error ..."sufficient enough"...
Option D is also not flawless..."the shuttle and earlier spacecraft, which were capable of carrying sufficient power"...
As if "shuttle and earlier spacecrafts are not capable now...

Can you please tell me why option B is being preferred and is the OA ?


Option (B) is not correct. "the shuttle and aircraft" were not "with" sufficient power. The shuttle and aircraft could carry sufficient power in fuel cells. Of course, redundancy is a problem too.
In option (D), the use of past tense is not a problem. We are talking of "earlier spacecraft." So it tells us what was true in the past. That is compared with what will be required in the future.
So (D) is correct.
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I chose the right option D. I eliminated option B for redundancy, but it also triggers a question about the usage of 'with'. Can someone please explain when and when not to use 'with' ?
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Unlike X , Y is the idiom being tested here. Only B and D are the contenders. In B their is a modifier error , with is xxx is incorrect , further their is no verb present. D wins.


Correctly pointed out!

The reason B is wrong is that the prepositional phrase " with......." is unclear in terms of the clause/phrase it is modifying. Is it the previous one or the next one.

eg. XXXXXXXXX, with.........., YYYYYYYYYY

We dont know with is referring to XXXXXXXXX or to YYYYYYYY.


Hope this clarifies :)


this is the reason why we should realize the grammatical role of a phrase before considering meaning /logic problems .

thank you very much.
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