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­Hi everyone!

I am in a predicament here. I have my GMAT exam in 3 days. I am scoring in the 90-96 percentile for quant and DI and have been scoring in the 80-85th percentile in Verbal. But in the past 3-4 days, I'm getting around 66 percentile for Verbal in all the mock tests. Those scores tanked like crazy! And when I check the explanations for questions in our forum, they are medium-level questions!

Could someone suggest quick tips/focus strategies that could help me?

PS: Although I understood the pre-thinking technique for CR assumption questions, I was never really able to execute it.

Also, no matter what my score is, I will be attempting it one more time after a gap of around 20-25 days, because I figured I could submit a better score before the Round 1 deadlines close (by mid-Sept I think). What do you make of the strategy? Do chances for admission with a scholarship vary between the start and end of a round's deadline?

All suggestions are welcome!!
Thanks in advance guys!
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With just three days left, I recommend taking deep breaths and calming yourself down. Focus on the basics that have guided you in answering each question type and stick to these familiar approaches on test day. Trying to learn new techniques at this point may be detrimental. Remember, a calm mind can work wonders on the day of the test.

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Dont take alot of stress. Calm down. Stay positive. Your test day exam will be easiet of your mock.
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For assumption questions, the negation technique may be helpful to check out. Leveraging your error-log to remind yourself of any careless errors you may make could also be useful. All the best on your exam. Consider reading some success stories on the Share GMAT Experience subforum. Perhaps there is some helpful insight you can take from reading about the challenges other people have faced and what they thought/felt helped them to overcome them.

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Hi. as long as you submit your application before the deadline, that’s what matters.

Your scholarship chances do not change based on Wednesday before the deadline you submitted. Score is the score and the profile is a profile. Your profile does not become more powerful or your score more valuable just because you submitted it two weeks early. There’s really no benefit submitting much earlier before the deadline.

Schools will not be reviewing your application early. More over, it application gets reviewed twice, once for the interview invite and then for the final review and it is the final review that determines scholarship opportunities not the first one.

About your scores, did you change your approach in anyway or make any changes? Did you change the tests and using different test to evaluate your score?


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­Hi everyone!

I am in a predicament here. I have my GMAT exam in 3 days. I am scoring in the 90-96 percentile for quant and DI and have been scoring in the 80-85th percentile in Verbal. But in the past 3-4 days, I'm getting around 66 percentile for Verbal in all the mock tests. Those scores tanked like crazy! And when I check the explanations for questions in our forum, they are medium-level questions!

Could someone suggest quick tips/focus strategies that could help me?

PS: Although I understood the pre-thinking technique for CR assumption questions, I was never really able to execute it.

Also, no matter what my score is, I will be attempting it one more time after a gap of around 20-25 days, because I figured I could submit a better score before the Round 1 deadlines close (by mid-Sept I think). What do you make of the strategy? Do chances for admission with a scholarship vary between the start and end of a round's deadline?

All suggestions are welcome!!
Thanks in advance guys!
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I’ve seen a lot of people in the past go from one practice test to a different type and notice scored differences just because it’s a different test.

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Hi. as long as you submit your application before the deadline, that’s what matters.

Your scholarship chances do not change based on Wednesday before the deadline you submitted. Score is the score and the profile is a profile. Your profile does not become more powerful or your score more valuable just because you submitted it two weeks early. There’s really no benefit submitting much earlier before the deadline.

Schools will not be reviewing your application early. More over, it application gets reviewed twice, once for the interview invite and then for the final review and it is the final review that determines scholarship opportunities not the first one.
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­Hi there. Is that the case? I was under the impression that schools especially those that offer EA judge the applications upon receipt. Just yesterday on r/GMAT or r/MBA I saw an AdCom mention the need to apply at least one week before the deadline to show readiness of the applicant.

Could you please confirm if most schools, particularly T20, only review the applications of all the applicants of that respective round once the deadline has passed? It'll be an extremely helpful insight.
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Hi. as long as you submit your application before the deadline, that’s what matters.

Your scholarship chances do not change based on Wednesday before the deadline you submitted. Score is the score and the profile is a profile. Your profile does not become more powerful or your score more valuable just because you submitted it two weeks early. There’s really no benefit submitting much earlier before the deadline.

Schools will not be reviewing your application early. More over, it application gets reviewed twice, once for the interview invite and then for the final review and it is the final review that determines scholarship opportunities not the first one.
­Hi there. Is that the case? I was under the impression that schools especially those that offer EA judge the applications upon receipt. Just yesterday on r/GMAT or r/MBA I saw an AdCom mention the need to apply at least one week before the deadline to show readiness of the applicant.

Could you please confirm if most schools, particularly T20, only review the applications of all the applicants of that respective round once the deadline has passed? It'll be an extremely helpful insight.
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News to me - I have seen plenty of people who submitted their application on the day of.... get in. We have asked this question to admissions teams in the past and the answer usually has been is that the rules are clear, here’s the deadline and it would be unfair to judge someone if they actually did with the admissions team told them to do, apply by September 4. Lots of people sit on the application just to give it another read.


Which Adcom member was that?
I will be happy to ask Fuqua, Haas and yale AdCom members during the application walk-throughs in five days about this.

PS it’s a good practice to submit your application a little bit earlier in case there are technical challenges and payment difficulties but it seems like fear mongering to tell people to apply weeks or months early.

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News to me - I have seen plenty of people who submitted their application on the day of....


Which Adcom member was that?
I will be happy to ask Fuqua, Haas and yale.com during the application walk-throughs in five days about this.

PS it’s a good practice to submit your application a little bit earlier in case there are technical challenges and payment difficulties but it seems like fear mongering to tell people to apply early.
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­I'm not so sure, but it was definitely someone who claimed to be a part of the process.

Thanks, I'll be joining in too and looking forward to it.

Which brings me to the topic, I did register for it yesterday but I still haven't received the resume guide and the essays in the mail.... The only mail received was one with the verification code. Should I re-register with a different account?
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News to me - I have seen plenty of people who submitted their application on the day of....


Which Adcom member was that?
I will be happy to ask Fuqua, Haas and yale.com during the application walk-throughs in five days about this.

PS it’s a good practice to submit your application a little bit earlier in case there are technical challenges and payment difficulties but it seems like fear mongering to tell people to apply early.
­I'm not so sure, but it was definitely someone who claimed to be a part of the process.

Thanks, I'll be joining in too and looking forward to it.

Which brings me to the topic, I did register for it yesterday but I still haven't received the resume guide and the essays in the mail.... The only mail received was one with the verification code. Should I re-register with a different account?
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Sure. I will ask the admissions teams. Sometimes they’re not super black-and-white when speaking at a large gathering but I’ll try to find a diplomatic way so that they could provide a more black-and-white answer.

PS. Application walk-throughs, Check your confirmation email for a link to download the resources.

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login into the event anytime between July 31 and August 10 and you can download them from the resource section. So you can get them now by using the link in the confirmation email or download them later.

PS. GMAT club test will be granted tomorrow, in about 24 hours 😇

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Hi. as long as you submit your application before the deadline, that’s what matters.

Your scholarship chances do not change based on Wednesday before the deadline you submitted. Score is the score and the profile is a profile. Your profile does not become more powerful or your score more valuable just because you submitted it two weeks early. There’s really no benefit submitting much earlier before the deadline.

Schools will not be reviewing your application early. More over, it application gets reviewed twice, once for the interview invite and then for the final review and it is the final review that determines scholarship opportunities not the first one.

About your scores, did you change your approach in anyway or make any changes? Did you change the tests and using different test to evaluate your score?


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­Hi everyone!

I am in a predicament here. I have my GMAT exam in 3 days. I am scoring in the 90-96 percentile for quant and DI and have been scoring in the 80-85th percentile in Verbal. But in the past 3-4 days, I'm getting around 66 percentile for Verbal in all the mock tests. Those scores tanked like crazy! And when I check the explanations for questions in our forum, they are medium-level questions!

Could someone suggest quick tips/focus strategies that could help me?

PS: Although I understood the pre-thinking technique for CR assumption questions, I was never really able to execute it.

Also, no matter what my score is, I will be attempting it one more time after a gap of around 20-25 days, because I figured I could submit a better score before the Round 1 deadlines close (by mid-Sept I think). What do you make of the strategy? Do chances for admission with a scholarship vary between the start and end of a round's deadline?

All suggestions are welcome!!
Thanks in advance guys!
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­Hi!
Thanks a lot for the advice and taking the time!

Here's what I did so far:
Full tests: GMAT official free mocks 1 and 2 two times each.
GMAT Club: 1 free mock test.

Preparations: Around 5 mocks each for verbal and quant sections and went through a lot of difficult questions in the forum. Also, the OG online question bank.

Analyzing the test results, I have been making 4-5 mistakes in Quant and DI, out of which 3-4 questions are careless mistakes (1+1=3, got the correct answer but marked the wrong option, error in decimals etc), 1 question each I just wasn't able to figure it out in under 2 minutes. But verbal like I said, 8-9 questions, mostly medium and 2-3 hard questions (max 1 or 2 careless).

Backstory: I scored 760 11 years ago for my MIM. Now, I've been preparing for a little over a month, 2-3 hours a day, after finishing my CFA exam in May 26 and in between managing my small business. I think Quant and DI, I have to thank my career and the Gods for making me strong. I know old habits don't die hard but hopefully, I won't make careless errors in the real test. But Verbal is kicking me in the nuts and I figured if only I could reduce the error rate by 50% in verbal, I could get somewhere between 645-690. But then I will have another 20-25 days for the second attempt, and I have to make it count. What do you think?
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­Hi Vishnu0007,

How did things go with your GMAT?
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­Hi Vishnu0007,

How did things go with your GMAT?
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­So hi there!
Thank you for reaching out. So basically, I bombed.

Got a ******g 565!!

Verbal - 11 errors - 82 percentile! (score:80) How is this even possible???
Quant - 3 errors - 83 percentile (score:81)
DI - 5 errors- 79 percentile (score:77)

Did Verbal first, followed by Quant and DI.

Compared with the mock tests that I have been practising from OG and GMAT club,
80ish percentiles used to give me around 615-625. Although 2-4 errors in Quant and DI put me in the mid-90th percentiles. Verbal with 8-9 errors put me in between around 75th (once it came down to 66th).

With barely 30 days of prep, I wasn't expecting a 700, but I was hoping for a 645. But it is strange why an avg. of c.80 percentile accumulated only 565. Also Verbal with 11 mistakes still fetched me 82 percentile, the same position as quant with just 3 errors! Did my doing verbal initially and making 11 mistakes bring the scale down for the other two sections?

All of your analysis would be beneficial.

I will be attempting again by Sept 1, and if still unsatisfied a third time a few weeks later. (half the schools have deadlines of Oct 10).

I hope by posting this, everyone else can avoid possible pitfalls and secure a very good score.

Thank you so much ScottTargetTestPrep for checking in on my test!
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­Hi Vishnu0007,

There may be different opinions on this, but I don't think so. GMAC officials have said (publicly) that performance in the first section affects the starting point of the next section, but I don't think that by "starting point" they mean the entire section.

All the best for the retake.
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News to me - I have seen plenty of people who submitted their application on the day of....


Which Adcom member was that?
I will be happy to ask Fuqua, Haas and yale.com during the application walk-throughs in five days about this.

PS it’s a good practice to submit your application a little bit earlier in case there are technical challenges and payment difficulties but it seems like fear mongering to tell people to apply early.
­I'm not so sure, but it was definitely someone who claimed to be a part of the process.

Thanks, I'll be joining in too and looking forward to it.

Which brings me to the topic, I did register for it yesterday but I still haven't received the resume guide and the essays in the mail.... The only mail received was one with the verification code. Should I re-register with a different account?
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Hoehenheim, so I have totally failed to ask this today during the event - sorry. Things got wonky and I have totally lost track of this qustion.
Did you ask by chance in the Fuqua session?­

If not, I am wondering if I can send an informal question in and get some input on this issue as I would like to resolve it (maybe I am wrong - who knows...)
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Thank you for reaching out. So basically, I bombed.

Got a ******g 565!!

Verbal - 11 errors - 82 percentile! (score:80) How is this even possible???
Quant - 3 errors - 83 percentile (score:81)
DI - 5 errors- 79 percentile (score:77)

Did Verbal first, followed by Quant and DI.

Compared with the mock tests that I have been practising from OG and GMAT club,
80ish percentiles used to give me around 615-625. Although 2-4 errors in Quant and DI put me in the mid-90th percentiles. Verbal with 8-9 errors put me in between around 75th (once it came down to 66th).

With barely 30 days of prep, I wasn't expecting a 700, but I was hoping for a 645. But it is strange why an avg. of c.80 percentile accumulated only 565. Also Verbal with 11 mistakes still fetched me 82 percentile, the same position as quant with just 3 errors! Did my doing verbal initially and making 11 mistakes bring the scale down for the other two sections?

All of your analysis would be beneficial.

I will be attempting again by Sept 1, and if still unsatisfied a third time a few weeks later. (half the schools have deadlines of Oct 10).

I hope by posting this, everyone else can avoid possible pitfalls and secure a very good score.

Thank you so much ScottTargetTestPrep for checking in on my test!
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This is not bad at all for 30 days of Prep!
This is interesting as this score seems to be breaking the old relationship... did you get a 565 or 595?
It should be 595 based on my calculations and if not, means something off with the GMAT scoring :shock:
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News to me - I have seen plenty of people who submitted their application on the day of....


Which Adcom member was that?
I will be happy to ask Fuqua, Haas and yale.com during the application walk-throughs in five days about this.

PS it’s a good practice to submit your application a little bit earlier in case there are technical challenges and payment difficulties but it seems like fear mongering to tell people to apply early.
­I'm not so sure, but it was definitely someone who claimed to be a part of the process.

Thanks, I'll be joining in too and looking forward to it.

Which brings me to the topic, I did register for it yesterday but I still haven't received the resume guide and the essays in the mail.... The only mail received was one with the verification code. Should I re-register with a different account?
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Hoehenheim, so I have totally failed to ask this today during the event - sorry. Things got wonky and I have totally lost track of this qustion.
Did you ask by chance in the Fuqua session?­

If not, I am wondering if I can send an informal question in and get some input on this issue as I would like to resolve it (maybe I am wrong - who knows...)
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­Hello there bb, although i did get a few questions in, this one unfortunately did not make the cut as it didn't get that many upvotes on the Q&A tab.
I'll try asking again on the 10th...

Thanks for the follow up and also an extremely commendable effort by GC. The session was incredibly insightful.
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If not, I am wondering if I can send an informal question in and get some input on this issue as I would like to resolve it (maybe I am wrong - who knows...)
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­If you could do that, that'll be solid. Although it might not look like much, I'm sure just knowing would help out a lot of applicants. I think sometimes some of these underlooked areas are what can be the difference between getting in or not. Or at least, an A or a WL...
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­Hello there bb, although i did get a few questions in, this one unfortunately did not make the cut as it didn't get that many upvotes on the Q&A tab.
I'll try asking again on the 10th...

Thanks for the follow up and also an extremely commendable effort by GC. The session was incredibly insightful.
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Thank you for your kind words. This actually is giving me an idea to maybe create a series of five short videos with different admissions teams to ask them some of these pesky questions that fall in the gray area....

This would be one. Another would be GMAT versus GRE. Another one could be round 1 one versus round two, and maybe something about unbalanced score?

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URGENT GMAT PREP HELP! 01 Aug 2024, 15:20
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PS. I will ask this question separately because on August 10, the admissions teams are not joining. Admissions is really not a good source of feedback for essays because they’re also the ones who are grading them and checking them and reading them so consultants are much better source of actionable and practical information....

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