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Controversial mortgage laws passed last year state that, at any point during the maturation period of the loan, if the person in whose name the loan is taken is not able to make the payments, that person’s spouse will have responsibilities that include paying the balance.

A. will have responsibilities that include
B. will be responsible to pay
C. is responsible to pay
D. will be responsible for paying
E. will have responsibility to pay

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Controversial mortgage laws passed last year state that, at any point during the maturation period of the loan, if the person in whose name the loan is taken is not able to make the payments, that person’s spouse will have responsibilities that include paying the balance.

A. will have responsibilities that include
B. will be responsible to pay
C. is responsible to pay
D. will be responsible for paying
E. will have responsibility to pay

This sentence is confusing because it contains many prepositional phrases nestled within each other. At the core, however, the sentence is testing the ability to recognize the conditional tense created by the word if that begins the series of phrases after the comma; this if causes the underlined portion to need simple present (general rule) or future tense (ceratin future event) in order to agree. The sentence also tests the correct use of the idiomatic verb to be responsible for.
1. This phrase is wordy and unnecessary.
2. The usage "responsibility to " is wrong when referring to an action - the correct usage is "responsibility for ".
3. The usage "responsibility to " is wrong when referring to an action - the correct usage is "responsibility for ".
4. This option correctly uses the preposition for and the –ing form of the verb to pay, as well as the future tense signaled by the conditional word if.
5. The usage "responsibility to " is wrong when referring to an action - the correct usage is "responsibility for ".

Answer: D
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22 Sep 2014, 00:38
Why (E) cannot be correct?

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22 Sep 2014, 13:14
Verbal moderators please help...why is option 'B' not correct?
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Verbal moderators please help...why is option 'B' not correct?

Hi,

I am not a verbal expert, but here are 2 cents from my side.
You are responsible to someone and you are responsible for something.
"paying the balance" is something and not someone, hence B is wrong. Correct answer is D.

Hope it helps.
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Controversial mortgage laws passed last year state that, if at any point during the maturation period of the loan the person in whose name it is taken is not able to meet the payments, that person’s spouse will have responsibilities that include paying the balance.

A. will have responsibilities that include
B. will be responsible to pay
C. is responsible to pay
D. will be responsible for paying
E. is responsible for paying

This sentence is confusing because it contains many prepositional phrases nestled within each other. At the core, however, the sentence is testing the ability to recognize the conditional tense created by the word if that begins the series of phrases after the comma; this if causes the underlined portion to need future tense in order to agree. The sentence also tests the correct use of the idiomatic verb to be responsible for.
1. This phrase is wordy and unnecessary.
2. The preposition for should be used with the –ing form of the verb to pay
3. If in the first phrase after the comma creates a conditional tense that requires a future-tense form in the underlined portion.
4. This option correctly uses the preposition for and the –ing form of the verb to pay, as well as the future tense signaled by the conditional word if.
5. The word if in the sentence signals a conditional tense that requires a future-tense form in the underlined portion.

Answer: D

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Can someone explain why we cant use "will be responsible to pay" here?

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26 Jul 2015, 16:37
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I think this is a high-quality question and I don't agree with the explanation. I think choice E is correct answer. Conditional tense can have any one of the following forms
If Present then Present -> used mostly to state fact
If Present/Present Perfect then Future(Will) -> To indicate certainty.
Per my understanding, the sentence is talking about what LAW stated i.e. factual information. Hence, construction of form If Present then Present(IS) makes more sense.
Please correct if my understanding is wrong.

Also between TO PAY and FOR PAYING, FOR PAYING should be used as TO PAY will indicate purpose and that is not the intended meaning. FOR PAYING answers question FOR WHAT and is the correct form in context of this sentence.
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09 Aug 2015, 22:28
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p2bhokie wrote:
Verbal moderators please help...why is option 'B' not correct?

Hi,

I am not a verbal expert, but here are 2 cents from my side.
You are responsible to someone and you are responsible for something.
"paying the balance" is something and not someone, hence B is wrong. Correct answer is D.

Hope it helps.

Thanks, that helped
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I think this is a high-quality question and I don't agree with the explanation. I think choice E is correct answer. Conditional tense can have any one of the following forms
If Present then Present -> used mostly to state fact
If Present/Present Perfect then Future(Will) -> To indicate certainty.
Per my understanding, the sentence is talking about what LAW stated i.e. factual information. Hence, construction of form If Present then Present(IS) makes more sense.
Please correct if my understanding is wrong.

Also between TO PAY and FOR PAYING, FOR PAYING should be used as TO PAY will indicate purpose and that is not the intended meaning. FOR PAYING answers question FOR WHAT and is the correct form in context of this sentence.

I think you have mentioned it in your post itself why 'is' is not right in this context.
The person will be responsible for paying. ( she will become responsible for the payment)
The person is not inherently (universal fact) responsible for the payment.
I hope this helps.
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27 Sep 2015, 00:20
Link to solve this problem :- https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... 15996.html

After Reading this u will be able to solve all these types of questions
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Controversial mortgage laws passed last year state that, if at any point during the maturation period of the loan the person in whose name it is taken is not able to meet the payments, that person’s spouse will have responsibilities that include paying the balance.

A. will have responsibilities that include
B. will be responsible to pay
C. is responsible to pay
D. will be responsible for paying
E. is responsible for paying

This sentence is confusing because it contains many prepositional phrases nestled within each other. At the core, however, the sentence is testing the ability to recognize the conditional tense created by the word if that begins the series of phrases after the comma; this if causes the underlined portion to need future tense in order to agree. The sentence also tests the correct use of the idiomatic verb to be responsible for.
1. This phrase is wordy and unnecessary.
2. The preposition for should be used with the –ing form of the verb to pay
3. If in the first phrase after the comma creates a conditional tense that requires a future-tense form in the underlined portion.
4. This option correctly uses the preposition for and the –ing form of the verb to pay, as well as the future tense signaled by the conditional word if.
5. The word if in the sentence signals a conditional tense that requires a future-tense form in the underlined portion.

Answer: D

Why is B wrong? why 'to' correct instead of 'for'?

Please give examples. Detailed explanation will be appreciated
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harishbiyani8888 wrote:
Why is B wrong? why 'to' correct instead of 'for'?
Please give examples. Detailed explanation will be appreciated

Even I committed the same mistake.
Please refer
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06 Dec 2015, 15:42
There is a flaw in the explanation.

We know that we have a law:
if X happens, B happens. It is a rule. Thus, we must use conditional 0, since we are talking about something that will happen for certain.
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The Stmnt is a rule which expresses a condition.
if at any point during the maturation period of the loan the person in whose name it is taken is not able to meet the payments, that person’s spouse will have responsibilities that include paying the balance

So since this RULE of Law is true at any given time, the then clause should be represented in simple pre tense

Pls explain my understanding gap
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Hi all,

I am enjoying the GMAT club TESTS and I find the questions are very clever. For this question, I have not been able to find a sufficient answer. I have read all the links above and I am also tried googling the question. I am still not sure about the usage of "to do" vs. "for doing"

In my opinion, the best example was presented here: https://www.italki.com/question/47098 (also referenced above in the MGMAT link referenced above)

1) I have to thank him for doing me that favor (notice that here the favor has already been done)
2) I have to thank him to do me that favor (notice that here the favor has not been done yet)

Based on this understanding and using this example and using the example above, I would argue that it should be "to pay" not "for paying"

I have been grappling with this issue for the past 24 hours, and I still feel lost. I would greatly appreciate your guidance.
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05 Jun 2016, 07:31
I think this is a poor-quality question and I don't agree with the explanation. I disagree with the suggested answer here.

Option D changes the original meaning quite significantly. The original sentence says that the spouse will have more than one responsibility, one of which is the paying of the balance. Option D changes this to ignore the other responsibility or responsibilities. Although option A is wordier, it is the only option which retains the initial meaning. Option A is also a correct way to put across a more nuanced meaning.
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I think this is a poor-quality question and I don't agree with the explanation. I disagree with the suggested answer here.

Option D changes the original meaning quite significantly. The original sentence says that the spouse will have more than one responsibility, one of which is the paying of the balance. Option D changes this to ignore the other responsibility or responsibilities. Although option A is wordier, it is the only option which retains the initial meaning. Option A is also a correct way to put across a more nuanced meaning.

In context of loan, it is practically sensible to consider that the repayment of the loan is the only responsibility of the spouse of the defaulter. Technically there could be other responsibilities, but probably the author of this question is not quite wrong in ignoring them. Consider the following sentences:

" If my father does not pay the loan, I shall have responsibilities that include paying the balance."
" If my father does not pay the loan, I shall be responsible for paying the loan."

In my view, the first sentence, although grammatically correct, is awkward and does not convey the intended the meaning as the second sentence does.
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The Stmnt is a rule which expresses a condition.
if at any point during the maturation period of the loan the person in whose name it is taken is not able to meet the payments, that person’s spouse will have responsibilities that include paying the balance

So since this RULE of Law is true at any given time, the then clause should be represented in simple pre tense

Pls explain my understanding gap

Both simple present and simple future are correct in this context:
simple present: general rule (as you have correctly stated)
simple future: a certain event in future - since the spouse would be responsible in case of default after the law was passed, use of future is also alright.

Option E and the explanation have been modified to eliminate the above ambiguity.
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Hi all,

I am enjoying the GMAT club TESTS and I find the questions are very clever. For this question, I have not been able to find a sufficient answer. I have read all the links above and I am also tried googling the question. I am still not sure about the usage of "to do" vs. "for doing"

In my opinion, the best example was presented here: https://www.italki.com/question/47098 (also referenced above in the MGMAT link referenced above)

1) I have to thank him for doing me that favor (notice that here the favor has already been done)
2) I have to thank him to do me that favor (notice that here the favor has not been done yet)

Based on this understanding and using this example and using the example above, I would argue that it should be "to pay" not "for paying"

I have been grappling with this issue for the past 24 hours, and I still feel lost. I would greatly appreciate your guidance.

Hi,

the answer to your query lies in the idiom 'reponsible to" or 'responsinle for'..

generally when used - you are resposible to SOMEONE and you are responsible for SOMETHING...
here we are talking of something so ans is for paying
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I think this the explanation isn't clear enough, please elaborate. Can you please explain, as to why the answer for the aforementioned question is not 'b'.
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