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31 May 2011, 09:02
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Hi,
I am planning for fall 2012 intake and have schools like Duke, Darden, McCombs, and Ross on my list. My Profile is as follows:
GMAT: 700 (Q50 V34)
GPA: 59% Aggregate (First Class as per Mumbai university)
Work Experience: 4.5 years till the time I apply. Promoted every year and currently leading a team to of nine. Role is mix of Business Analyst and Support.
Extra Circular: Captained College football team and won second place in university level football competition.
Have been a part of an NGO since last six years and led diverse teams to improve funding.
My area of concern are:
1. Considering I am an Indian, is a 700 enough to get into top 20 B schools.?
2. Spoken to quite an few people and they are of the opinion that building an alternative transcript would be a great idea as a 59% doesn't meet many top B schools criteria. However, I believe that If a take a calculus or statistics class would that make a difference on my application as I have a 50 in quant. Also, it would be great if someone can help me with other courses that can be taken up to build an alternative transcript.
I am planning for fall 2012 intake and have schools like Duke, Darden, McCombs, and Ross on my list. My Profile is as follows:
GMAT: 700 (Q50 V34)
GPA: 59% Aggregate (First Class as per Mumbai university)
Work Experience: 4.5 years till the time I apply. Promoted every year and currently leading a team to of nine. Role is mix of Business Analyst and Support.
Extra Circular: Captained College football team and won second place in university level football competition.
Have been a part of an NGO since last six years and led diverse teams to improve funding.
My area of concern are:
1. Considering I am an Indian, is a 700 enough to get into top 20 B schools.?
2. Spoken to quite an few people and they are of the opinion that building an alternative transcript would be a great idea as a 59% doesn't meet many top B schools criteria. However, I believe that If a take a calculus or statistics class would that make a difference on my application as I have a 50 in quant. Also, it would be great if someone can help me with other courses that can be taken up to build an alternative transcript.
31 May 2011, 10:27
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I take a different perspective on GMAT, and at that, I think a better approach (personally speaking).
A 700 GMAT is a great score as most would agree with me (and if not, the 90 percentile speaks for itself). I don't like to view the "Indians are over-populated in the applicant pool" perspective, but instead, I look at the GMAT as GMAT itself. How have you done on your practice tests? Were you consistently getting 740 or more on GMAT? A onesey or twosey of 720 isn't really a good indicator that you'll perform 720+ on a real GMAT. However, a string of 6 CATs that indicate you have an ability of 750 might mean to you that you should re-take the GMAT. If you're scoring around 700 (+/- 20 points), you're in range. And with that said, a 720 won't really help you any more than your 700. At this point, the return on the GMAT score has greatly diminished because it's extremely hard to improve a 700 to a 740 (unlike a 460 to a 500). If you don't think you can score 730 or higher, I wouldn't worry much about the GMAT anymore, but instead, I'd focus more on the applications. There's no point in comparing GMAT to the greater Indian pool because I believe GMAT is one great hurdle that only you yourself would know what your capable of. It's not efficient anymore to try to achieve the average of something when the correlation between the average and your score is big. Instead, utilize the time you would've spent studying for the next GMAT exam on school preparation and essay-crafting.
Building an alternative transcript is a smart thing to do, especially for an applicant whose undergrad grades weren't as high as they'd want it to be. In terms of what courses to take, opt for quantitative-oriented courses, such as calculus, statistics, accounting, and economics. The courses themselves matter less than the grade that you acquire from taking the classes. Get A's to prove that you can do it. Your quant will probably not be a big issue, as you mentioned of your Q50 on GMAT. Look at your undergrad transcript and look at how you've performed in quant-oriented courses. Did you get mostly A's or Bs in them? If you had more A's than B's in math courses, chances are your math is fine and you don't have to worry about it. But all things aside, building an alternative transcript is a great way to show dedication and intelligence to AdComs who may have a few doubt in someone's undergrad transcript.
A 700 GMAT is a great score as most would agree with me (and if not, the 90 percentile speaks for itself). I don't like to view the "Indians are over-populated in the applicant pool" perspective, but instead, I look at the GMAT as GMAT itself. How have you done on your practice tests? Were you consistently getting 740 or more on GMAT? A onesey or twosey of 720 isn't really a good indicator that you'll perform 720+ on a real GMAT. However, a string of 6 CATs that indicate you have an ability of 750 might mean to you that you should re-take the GMAT. If you're scoring around 700 (+/- 20 points), you're in range. And with that said, a 720 won't really help you any more than your 700. At this point, the return on the GMAT score has greatly diminished because it's extremely hard to improve a 700 to a 740 (unlike a 460 to a 500). If you don't think you can score 730 or higher, I wouldn't worry much about the GMAT anymore, but instead, I'd focus more on the applications. There's no point in comparing GMAT to the greater Indian pool because I believe GMAT is one great hurdle that only you yourself would know what your capable of. It's not efficient anymore to try to achieve the average of something when the correlation between the average and your score is big. Instead, utilize the time you would've spent studying for the next GMAT exam on school preparation and essay-crafting.
Building an alternative transcript is a smart thing to do, especially for an applicant whose undergrad grades weren't as high as they'd want it to be. In terms of what courses to take, opt for quantitative-oriented courses, such as calculus, statistics, accounting, and economics. The courses themselves matter less than the grade that you acquire from taking the classes. Get A's to prove that you can do it. Your quant will probably not be a big issue, as you mentioned of your Q50 on GMAT. Look at your undergrad transcript and look at how you've performed in quant-oriented courses. Did you get mostly A's or Bs in them? If you had more A's than B's in math courses, chances are your math is fine and you don't have to worry about it. But all things aside, building an alternative transcript is a great way to show dedication and intelligence to AdComs who may have a few doubt in someone's undergrad transcript.
31 May 2011, 12:24
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Hi gmat909,
I think that the 700 can be seen as a little low given your overall profile. You should understand, though, that if you re-take the GMAT and your score goes down into the 600s, this could spell trouble. So I would urge caution: if you have doubts about whether your score will go up or down, be careful because going down can harm you greatly.
You received First Class honors upon graduation, so make sure you reference that throughout the application, as that is very important. The most effective way to build an alternative transcript is literally to get a one-year degree somewhere (an isolated course here and there does not always do the job, but isolated courses with high grades can reinforce the idea that you were on an upward trend if you had an upward trend in your undergraduate grades). Getting a one-year degree would take a lot of money, time and effort, and most candidates don’t want to make that effort. Your need to establish other metrics to prove your academic strength is not totally clear to me, because you have the First Class credential. Was there any distinction greater than First Class? (Sometimes a university has First Class with Distinction)... Let me know as that could influence my advice.
For the schools you are targeting, you can potentially be within range if you put together an outstanding application. So take care with the applications - invest the time you need to write excellent essays, ensure your recommendations are stellar, and position yourself very well.
Best wishes,
[highlight]Shelly Watts
MBA Admit.com
https://www.mbaadmit.com
Email: [email protected][/highlight]
Special Pricing through June 2, 2011: 50% Off Regular Pricing...HURRY, offer ends soon!
MBA Admit.com: Proudly, one of the most affordable top-quality MBA admissions consulting companies[/highlight]
Hi gmat909,
I think that the 700 can be seen as a little low given your overall profile. You should understand, though, that if you re-take the GMAT and your score goes down into the 600s, this could spell trouble. So I would urge caution: if you have doubts about whether your score will go up or down, be careful because going down can harm you greatly.
You received First Class honors upon graduation, so make sure you reference that throughout the application, as that is very important. The most effective way to build an alternative transcript is literally to get a one-year degree somewhere (an isolated course here and there does not always do the job, but isolated courses with high grades can reinforce the idea that you were on an upward trend if you had an upward trend in your undergraduate grades). Getting a one-year degree would take a lot of money, time and effort, and most candidates don’t want to make that effort. Your need to establish other metrics to prove your academic strength is not totally clear to me, because you have the First Class credential. Was there any distinction greater than First Class? (Sometimes a university has First Class with Distinction)... Let me know as that could influence my advice.
For the schools you are targeting, you can potentially be within range if you put together an outstanding application. So take care with the applications - invest the time you need to write excellent essays, ensure your recommendations are stellar, and position yourself very well.
Best wishes,
[highlight]Shelly Watts
MBA Admit.com
https://www.mbaadmit.com
Email: [email protected][/highlight]
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