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04 Apr 2012, 12:18
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Requesting for your valuable inputs for my profile mentioned in the link below.
https://gmatclub.com/forum/profile-evaluation-request-suggest-suitable-b-school-130218.html
https://gmatclub.com/forum/profile-evaluation-request-suggest-suitable-b-school-130218.html
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Hi Santosh,
I have cut and pasted your post from the other forum- the one that you linked to.
I need a little more definition around your goals. Based on your grades and GMAT score, it is going to be very hard to break into a top ten US business school. A top 10-20 US business school is more realistic however, this is based strictly on numbers and my cursory evaluation of your work experience, as well as some of the other factors you list below.
What really determines what school you should apply to is not really a matter of where you can get into based on your stats, that's what an admissions consultant can help you do, as an evaluation of your numbers with respect to school selection is simply a comparison of your stats to what US News would list and its ranking.
That being said, it is going to be hard for me to recommend specific schools because I have an incomplete picture of what you want to do in the future. I did take a look at the goals you listed, but they weren't clearly defined. I interpret your short term goal to be that you simply want to jump several levels ahead of where you are now. While I understand your need for advancement, is an MBA necessary to do this? If so, how? Would you be able to make this jump without taking two years off? Could you make this jump by staying two more years at your company instead of taking two years off? Basically, what you wrote about your short term goal wouldn't convince an admissions committee member that you need an MBA. Thus, it's really hard for me to tell you which school would fit this short term goal. At face value, your long term goal seems to have little to do with what an MBA can provide you.
Finally, determining how your undergraduate grades would be converted is as simple as a Google search. Please search for World Educational Services. They are a service that will convert your Indian grades.
Respectfully,
Paul Lanzillotti
I have cut and pasted your post from the other forum- the one that you linked to.
I need a little more definition around your goals. Based on your grades and GMAT score, it is going to be very hard to break into a top ten US business school. A top 10-20 US business school is more realistic however, this is based strictly on numbers and my cursory evaluation of your work experience, as well as some of the other factors you list below.
What really determines what school you should apply to is not really a matter of where you can get into based on your stats, that's what an admissions consultant can help you do, as an evaluation of your numbers with respect to school selection is simply a comparison of your stats to what US News would list and its ranking.
That being said, it is going to be hard for me to recommend specific schools because I have an incomplete picture of what you want to do in the future. I did take a look at the goals you listed, but they weren't clearly defined. I interpret your short term goal to be that you simply want to jump several levels ahead of where you are now. While I understand your need for advancement, is an MBA necessary to do this? If so, how? Would you be able to make this jump without taking two years off? Could you make this jump by staying two more years at your company instead of taking two years off? Basically, what you wrote about your short term goal wouldn't convince an admissions committee member that you need an MBA. Thus, it's really hard for me to tell you which school would fit this short term goal. At face value, your long term goal seems to have little to do with what an MBA can provide you.
Finally, determining how your undergraduate grades would be converted is as simple as a Google search. Please search for World Educational Services. They are a service that will convert your Indian grades.
Respectfully,
Paul Lanzillotti
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05 Apr 2012, 02:05
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Thank you very much for your time. I am pasting some more text from the same thread where I answered some of the questions asked by another member.I tried to elaborate more regarding my MBA goals, achievements etc. Hope this explanation helps you to evaluate the profile better.
Once again thank you for your efforts.
2. GMAT is low for Indian, Male, IT pool of applicants. Are you considering retake or will you apply with this score. You can still have a fair chance at many top schools, but a stronger GMAT will give the adcom one less reason to ding you.
Is there any distinction made between applicants from services based industry and applicants from products based industry? Are both considered as IT pool as a whole? I am less likely to sit for another attempt, since it requires substantial time (1-2 months of dedicated study) which is tough for me to take out from the tight schedule of project.
3. What's the reputation of the company you work for in India. Is it a global Fortune 50 conglomerate or relatively less-known software company? How many people on an average apply to business school from your company in a year? This would define how well the company and the work you do is known to the adcom.
I worked for Motorola Inc. and now the same division is acquired by Nokia Siemens Networks. To my knowledge both are conglomerates in telecom domain. Considering number of people doing MBA from Motorola or NSN, definitely the number would be low. More on this in point #6
4. You don't have to manage 50 people to demonstrate leadership. What differences have you made when you managed that small team? Did your team achieve any stellar results? This will define your professional leadership experience.
As a team, ours was the only team which gave year on year profit of 500% in entire business of Motorola. Success was all due to the best practices put in place by our day to day learning from existing processes. And yes as an active member of the team I had my contributions in this achievement. Owning up critical issues, stretching into extended hours to mentor juniors and to ensure no slippage from any component were my contributions. Our team has the record of not missing a single deadline for deliverable. Can all these be projected as professional leadership qualities? Do I need to highlight on more specific examples?
6. The short-term goal is not defined properly. You yourself have mentioned that the growth doesn't necessarily require an mba. Before you prepare that application, you need to clearly define why you need an MBA right now. You need to be able to answer that you can't work another year without an mba. Just saying that you need a promotion will work against your application.
Since many of the employees in my industry are long timers, who focus more on technology side and have grown up the ladder with the number of years spent in same organization. But the situation is no longer the same for employees similar to me, since these kind of organizations slowly become stagnant at the top, due to less attrition and challenging growth potential. Hence Even though work experience and compensation continue to grow, the chances of getting into a role where impact of my decision on the business as a whole is very less. That is the reason why I want to do an MBA and break away from the tech growth ladder into a more decision making role. In a technical role the decision making is limited to product design, concepts etc. However the actual decisions which make or break a business are taken only in board rooms.
Basically issue at hand is a stagnant talent pool in my industry and hence any career progression would require exceptionally long time and exposure to business dynamics will be less if I continue in the same profile even though I get a promotion.
How do I put forth this reasoning in a more seasoned manner? Is this a valid reason for doing an MBA? Honestly this is one of the driving forces for me to do an MBA. I think switching to another company, proving my mettle and expecting a bigger role is definitely a very long term scope.
7. Long-term goal is completely vogue. Why you need an mba for that? What kind of benefit are you looking to provide? What prevents them from not getting that benefit now?
Long term goals for me is an extension to the limitations I am facing at current job. Also my desire to start up an avenue is getting obstructed due to lack of confidence and lack of networking. I feel an MBA will provide the necessary exposure which I am unable to get from my current role, plus the networking I would make will definitely help in the long run. How can this idea be made more elaborate for the adcom?
Please help me in finding answers to these questions. Though these questions require more introspection, but I am more of confused rather than not confident. Hence I am seeking help of this forum to identify what I actually need out of this MBA. How do I trigger my thought process? How do I justify whatever I have done till now? All these questions I need the forum's help in finding an answer.
Once again thank you for your efforts.
2. GMAT is low for Indian, Male, IT pool of applicants. Are you considering retake or will you apply with this score. You can still have a fair chance at many top schools, but a stronger GMAT will give the adcom one less reason to ding you.
Is there any distinction made between applicants from services based industry and applicants from products based industry? Are both considered as IT pool as a whole? I am less likely to sit for another attempt, since it requires substantial time (1-2 months of dedicated study) which is tough for me to take out from the tight schedule of project.
3. What's the reputation of the company you work for in India. Is it a global Fortune 50 conglomerate or relatively less-known software company? How many people on an average apply to business school from your company in a year? This would define how well the company and the work you do is known to the adcom.
I worked for Motorola Inc. and now the same division is acquired by Nokia Siemens Networks. To my knowledge both are conglomerates in telecom domain. Considering number of people doing MBA from Motorola or NSN, definitely the number would be low. More on this in point #6
4. You don't have to manage 50 people to demonstrate leadership. What differences have you made when you managed that small team? Did your team achieve any stellar results? This will define your professional leadership experience.
As a team, ours was the only team which gave year on year profit of 500% in entire business of Motorola. Success was all due to the best practices put in place by our day to day learning from existing processes. And yes as an active member of the team I had my contributions in this achievement. Owning up critical issues, stretching into extended hours to mentor juniors and to ensure no slippage from any component were my contributions. Our team has the record of not missing a single deadline for deliverable. Can all these be projected as professional leadership qualities? Do I need to highlight on more specific examples?
6. The short-term goal is not defined properly. You yourself have mentioned that the growth doesn't necessarily require an mba. Before you prepare that application, you need to clearly define why you need an MBA right now. You need to be able to answer that you can't work another year without an mba. Just saying that you need a promotion will work against your application.
Since many of the employees in my industry are long timers, who focus more on technology side and have grown up the ladder with the number of years spent in same organization. But the situation is no longer the same for employees similar to me, since these kind of organizations slowly become stagnant at the top, due to less attrition and challenging growth potential. Hence Even though work experience and compensation continue to grow, the chances of getting into a role where impact of my decision on the business as a whole is very less. That is the reason why I want to do an MBA and break away from the tech growth ladder into a more decision making role. In a technical role the decision making is limited to product design, concepts etc. However the actual decisions which make or break a business are taken only in board rooms.
Basically issue at hand is a stagnant talent pool in my industry and hence any career progression would require exceptionally long time and exposure to business dynamics will be less if I continue in the same profile even though I get a promotion.
How do I put forth this reasoning in a more seasoned manner? Is this a valid reason for doing an MBA? Honestly this is one of the driving forces for me to do an MBA. I think switching to another company, proving my mettle and expecting a bigger role is definitely a very long term scope.
7. Long-term goal is completely vogue. Why you need an mba for that? What kind of benefit are you looking to provide? What prevents them from not getting that benefit now?
Long term goals for me is an extension to the limitations I am facing at current job. Also my desire to start up an avenue is getting obstructed due to lack of confidence and lack of networking. I feel an MBA will provide the necessary exposure which I am unable to get from my current role, plus the networking I would make will definitely help in the long run. How can this idea be made more elaborate for the adcom?
Please help me in finding answers to these questions. Though these questions require more introspection, but I am more of confused rather than not confident. Hence I am seeking help of this forum to identify what I actually need out of this MBA. How do I trigger my thought process? How do I justify whatever I have done till now? All these questions I need the forum's help in finding an answer.
