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15 Aug 2014, 13:26
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Hi Critical Square,
It's the first time that I PM you because I need some help. Here is my situation and I can really use some good advice.
I am from Toronto (Asian background) Canada. I am an engineer (P.E. with Engineering Degree from accredited school) and have been working in the industry for 10 years now. In fact, just can't get the youth back. I will be 35 next year. Here is my story with GMAT and MBA Admissions. Sorry it's a little long.
Back in 2006, it was 2 years after I graduated. I didn't graduate with a high GPA (My school uses CA so it's hard give a number). It's a C+/B- in that range. I have this thought of doing an MBA so I went for the GMAT, but it was a disaster the first time. It was either the study method or the strategy or I was too nervous, so it was a bombing 470. Then in the years between 2006-2009, I tried the GMAT for 3 more times with one score report cancelled. The scores were all below 600. Again, they were not that good. The main reason is I prepared too late or procrastinated and my worst habit is once I did the GMAT, I dropped the knowledge and skills required completely so when I went to try picking it up again. It took some time, so I gave up on the GMAT and so be it.
In 2013, I had some changes in my engineering career. which got me thinking of the MBA again, so I went for it last year in Sept. I prepared for it. I used Kaplan study guides and my scores were up to 650 once from the practice CAT exams, so I walked into the GMAT with confidence, but some frigging darn thing hit me or I was just too nervous and under some pressure (because of my age and number of times attempted the GMAT), almost like a nervous breakdown, I spent 5 minutes on the 1st Quant question and I still didn't get it! so I went by my impression and cancelled the score. Almost a year had gone by, I am now an Asset Management Consultant (physical assets in engineering) and all my colleagues have either some mangement experience or MBA, so here comes the pressure again. I am going in for the GMAT tomorrow but recently with the Kaplan practice, I was able to score only up to 580. I will need a solid 650 to get into perhaps Wilfred Laurier or Ryerson. I actually met with their Admissions Directors and that's the score they expected from applicants at my situation.
I need some serious advice here.
1. Am I not a Business school material? Having attempted the GMAT so many times? But everytime I started preparing like a month before thinking that would be enough?
2. Given the fact that the last GMAT score was cancelled in Sept 2013. What would be the impact if I cancel my score reporting again tomorrow? Or I call it chicken out?
3. Will MBA Admissions have access to my GMAT history prior to 2009? Those records with +5 years of history from now? Will they look into those scores?
4. Is it better idea that to for an EMBA instead of the MBA at my age and my background?
5. I just want to get a Business Master's degree. My career goals is to get into Business Consulting. It's just crazily hard right now. I am busy at work everyday and it's just hard to prepare. Should I take seriously like a full year to prepare? Should I write the GMAT earlier in the year or later in the year?
6. I hate the IR section. Will MBA Admissions consider the IR score? I am not going to skip it tomorrow but I just won't do well.
Thanks for all your help in advance. Sorry it's a long email.
It's the first time that I PM you because I need some help. Here is my situation and I can really use some good advice.
I am from Toronto (Asian background) Canada. I am an engineer (P.E. with Engineering Degree from accredited school) and have been working in the industry for 10 years now. In fact, just can't get the youth back. I will be 35 next year. Here is my story with GMAT and MBA Admissions. Sorry it's a little long.
Back in 2006, it was 2 years after I graduated. I didn't graduate with a high GPA (My school uses CA so it's hard give a number). It's a C+/B- in that range. I have this thought of doing an MBA so I went for the GMAT, but it was a disaster the first time. It was either the study method or the strategy or I was too nervous, so it was a bombing 470. Then in the years between 2006-2009, I tried the GMAT for 3 more times with one score report cancelled. The scores were all below 600. Again, they were not that good. The main reason is I prepared too late or procrastinated and my worst habit is once I did the GMAT, I dropped the knowledge and skills required completely so when I went to try picking it up again. It took some time, so I gave up on the GMAT and so be it.
In 2013, I had some changes in my engineering career. which got me thinking of the MBA again, so I went for it last year in Sept. I prepared for it. I used Kaplan study guides and my scores were up to 650 once from the practice CAT exams, so I walked into the GMAT with confidence, but some frigging darn thing hit me or I was just too nervous and under some pressure (because of my age and number of times attempted the GMAT), almost like a nervous breakdown, I spent 5 minutes on the 1st Quant question and I still didn't get it! so I went by my impression and cancelled the score. Almost a year had gone by, I am now an Asset Management Consultant (physical assets in engineering) and all my colleagues have either some mangement experience or MBA, so here comes the pressure again. I am going in for the GMAT tomorrow but recently with the Kaplan practice, I was able to score only up to 580. I will need a solid 650 to get into perhaps Wilfred Laurier or Ryerson. I actually met with their Admissions Directors and that's the score they expected from applicants at my situation.
I need some serious advice here.
1. Am I not a Business school material? Having attempted the GMAT so many times? But everytime I started preparing like a month before thinking that would be enough?
2. Given the fact that the last GMAT score was cancelled in Sept 2013. What would be the impact if I cancel my score reporting again tomorrow? Or I call it chicken out?
3. Will MBA Admissions have access to my GMAT history prior to 2009? Those records with +5 years of history from now? Will they look into those scores?
4. Is it better idea that to for an EMBA instead of the MBA at my age and my background?
5. I just want to get a Business Master's degree. My career goals is to get into Business Consulting. It's just crazily hard right now. I am busy at work everyday and it's just hard to prepare. Should I take seriously like a full year to prepare? Should I write the GMAT earlier in the year or later in the year?
6. I hate the IR section. Will MBA Admissions consider the IR score? I am not going to skip it tomorrow but I just won't do well.
Thanks for all your help in advance. Sorry it's a long email.
19 Aug 2014, 06:13
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Hey there,
Thanks for the post and I'm so sorry you had such a rough go of the process so far! To your questions:
1) Only you can say if you are or aren't bschool material. If it makes sense for you, who am I or an adcom to tell you otherwise? But you need to communicate the WHY very well. I need to understand why you are so passionate about going to bschool!
2) Canceling your score is exactly that - canceling it. No one sees it.
3) No, once the 5 year mark is hit, the scores fall off the report along with the record of your attempts.
4) Yes - and I'm glad you brought it up. Full time is really out of the question at this point.
5) NEVER EVER NEVER EVER take time off from work to simply study for a test. Study your butt off? Sure. But never sacrifice your resume for a test.
6) It isn't factored into rankings so its usefulness is still limited. But they DO look at it. It's another data point after all!
I hope that helps and best of luck mate!
Bhavik
Thanks for the post and I'm so sorry you had such a rough go of the process so far! To your questions:
1) Only you can say if you are or aren't bschool material. If it makes sense for you, who am I or an adcom to tell you otherwise? But you need to communicate the WHY very well. I need to understand why you are so passionate about going to bschool!
2) Canceling your score is exactly that - canceling it. No one sees it.
3) No, once the 5 year mark is hit, the scores fall off the report along with the record of your attempts.
4) Yes - and I'm glad you brought it up. Full time is really out of the question at this point.
5) NEVER EVER NEVER EVER take time off from work to simply study for a test. Study your butt off? Sure. But never sacrifice your resume for a test.
6) It isn't factored into rankings so its usefulness is still limited. But they DO look at it. It's another data point after all!
I hope that helps and best of luck mate!
Bhavik
19 Aug 2014, 21:15
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Thanks Bhavik for the advice. What are the major differences between EMBA and MBA? In terms of the what am I going to get upon graduation? I want resourceful networking, contacts and knowledge, but will employers think highly of a regular MBA and look down on EMBA? Do B-schools only admit EMBA applicants with Executive experience?
Also, will cancel the score twice have a negative impact on my B-school application?
Please advise.
Thanks,
Kenneth
Also, will cancel the score twice have a negative impact on my B-school application?
Please advise.
Thanks,
Kenneth
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