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26 Oct 2014, 08:35
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If this is the wrong forum for this type of question, I apologize in advance! I came across this site in my somewhat aimless online search.
I am exploring the MBA degree, in addition to MPH, MHA (MA/S in healthcare administration), MA/S in management/leadership, MOD/L (MA/S in organizational development/leadership), MA/S in industrial-organizational psychology.
Why? I will try to keep this to the basics. I have no background in business, and want to move into either a healthcare consulting role, or a leadership/management position in the healthcare insurance industry.
Basic info:
I'm 29, F, a registered nurse (RN)
Caucasian and 1/4 hispanic (my father's parents were 1st gen. immigrants, neither of my parents have BA/S degrees, none of my grandparents ever went to college)
Education-
A.S. in Nursing from local community college in 2007 (GPA 3.8/4)
B.A. in Psychology from Boston U in 2009 (GPA 3.8/4)
Work Exp-
Since 2007 (7 yrs), have worked in multiple roles in mental health nursing, including staff nurse at multiple hospitals, including a leadership position in community mental health and working closely with some accomplished MD's as a case manager at Massachusetts General Hospital.
Scores- Obviously never taken the GMAT. I scored well on the SAT (1410, back when it was out of 2000--780 verbal out of 800, 630 math)- was accepted to Wesleyan University in CT out of high school but only did 1 year there due to having to take a medical leave (GPA was 3.35 when I left-- A's in science classes, C's in music theory and dance electives..)
Extracurriculars- Now, I work >40hrs some weeks, so nothing formal. Member of Mass Nurse's Association (union). In college- member of a mental illness awareness group and a public health group, and worked all through college (both degrees). Also, at BU I briefly volunteered in a developmental biology lab and then for about a year in a clinical psychology lab- BU Center for Anxiety and Related Disorders
Publications- In 2009 I first-authored a meta-analytic study on anxiety and pain that was published in a clinical psychology journal
Goal- as stated above
I am wondering if:
1) someone with my background/exp even has a chance of getting into a "worthwhile" MBA program, or, since my background is fairly unique, if it matters as much which school I go to
2) If MBA would make more sense with my goals vs one of the other degree programs mentioned
3) If you guys could point me towards any additional resources for more info on MBA curriculum, lifestyle, etc.
Regarding #2-- It seems like the MHA might limit one to only being hired in healthcare, if I wanted to to move to another industry. I know MPH's can be more business-focused, but since I have no business background whatsoever, I was thinking an MBA might make me more competitive.
The last 3 degrees I mentioned (leadership/management, organizational development/leadership, I-O psychology) appeal because in truth, I am less interested in the "hard" business sciences/classes such as finance, accounting, and economics. I am interested in organizational effectiveness, quality and process improvement, as well as the people side of business. I also feel that the latter 2 degrees could build off my background in psychology and that my background would make me more marketable in those roles and doing management consulting-- I am very good at reading people.
I am also an introvert (INTP in Myers-Briggs) and networking is not my strong point, so wondering if I'd be a total fish out of water in an MBA program, although obviously, networking to some degree is essential in every field, and I do what I have to do.
Thoughts/suggestions?
I am exploring the MBA degree, in addition to MPH, MHA (MA/S in healthcare administration), MA/S in management/leadership, MOD/L (MA/S in organizational development/leadership), MA/S in industrial-organizational psychology.
Why? I will try to keep this to the basics. I have no background in business, and want to move into either a healthcare consulting role, or a leadership/management position in the healthcare insurance industry.
Basic info:
I'm 29, F, a registered nurse (RN)
Caucasian and 1/4 hispanic (my father's parents were 1st gen. immigrants, neither of my parents have BA/S degrees, none of my grandparents ever went to college)
Education-
A.S. in Nursing from local community college in 2007 (GPA 3.8/4)
B.A. in Psychology from Boston U in 2009 (GPA 3.8/4)
Work Exp-
Since 2007 (7 yrs), have worked in multiple roles in mental health nursing, including staff nurse at multiple hospitals, including a leadership position in community mental health and working closely with some accomplished MD's as a case manager at Massachusetts General Hospital.
Scores- Obviously never taken the GMAT. I scored well on the SAT (1410, back when it was out of 2000--780 verbal out of 800, 630 math)- was accepted to Wesleyan University in CT out of high school but only did 1 year there due to having to take a medical leave (GPA was 3.35 when I left-- A's in science classes, C's in music theory and dance electives..)
Extracurriculars- Now, I work >40hrs some weeks, so nothing formal. Member of Mass Nurse's Association (union). In college- member of a mental illness awareness group and a public health group, and worked all through college (both degrees). Also, at BU I briefly volunteered in a developmental biology lab and then for about a year in a clinical psychology lab- BU Center for Anxiety and Related Disorders
Publications- In 2009 I first-authored a meta-analytic study on anxiety and pain that was published in a clinical psychology journal
Goal- as stated above
I am wondering if:
1) someone with my background/exp even has a chance of getting into a "worthwhile" MBA program, or, since my background is fairly unique, if it matters as much which school I go to
2) If MBA would make more sense with my goals vs one of the other degree programs mentioned
3) If you guys could point me towards any additional resources for more info on MBA curriculum, lifestyle, etc.
Regarding #2-- It seems like the MHA might limit one to only being hired in healthcare, if I wanted to to move to another industry. I know MPH's can be more business-focused, but since I have no business background whatsoever, I was thinking an MBA might make me more competitive.
The last 3 degrees I mentioned (leadership/management, organizational development/leadership, I-O psychology) appeal because in truth, I am less interested in the "hard" business sciences/classes such as finance, accounting, and economics. I am interested in organizational effectiveness, quality and process improvement, as well as the people side of business. I also feel that the latter 2 degrees could build off my background in psychology and that my background would make me more marketable in those roles and doing management consulting-- I am very good at reading people.
I am also an introvert (INTP in Myers-Briggs) and networking is not my strong point, so wondering if I'd be a total fish out of water in an MBA program, although obviously, networking to some degree is essential in every field, and I do what I have to do.
Thoughts/suggestions?
26 Oct 2014, 12:02
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Hi Fall Foliage,
Well thanks for posting - you are in the right place
I think we would all agree that you are a non-traditional candidate for an MBA but that in no way makes a good MBA program inaccessible to you.
In terms of schools that have a strong MBA program with a public health focus...One of my clients just drew my attention to a new organization, the Business School Alliance for Health Management. https://bahm-alliance.org/members.php. For consults interested in heathcare, the BAHM membership list is a good source of MBA schools concentrating in healthcare.
Your profile:
You're the right age (and I would suggest applying sooner rather than later because 30 starts to get a bit old for some programs)
Nice undergrad institution + GPA
Being a RN bolsters your overall story/goals
Coming from a family that doesn't have a tradition of higher education is great material and adds to your story.
Like the fact that you've already networked your way into some leadership opportunities and have some extracurriculars.
I am wondering if:
1) someone with my background/exp even has a chance of getting into a "worthwhile" MBA program, or, since my background is fairly unique, if it matters as much which school I go to
What do you consider a worthwhile program? I use the US News rankings personally because they are the most consistent over time. Are you only interested in a top 10 school? https://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... ss-schools
2) If MBA would make more sense with my goals vs one of the other degree programs mentioned
Well a Master in Public Health would also make sense. You say that you are an introvert - consulting is about selling consulting services (in order to do that you have to help the client solve his problem obviously) but the people who do well in business are the ones who are able to network.
3) If you guys could point me towards any additional resources for more info on MBA curriculum, lifestyle, etc.
https://bahm-alliance.org/members.php
Sounds like you have a lot of big picture questions to explore here.
Obviously one thing you need to do is sit the GMAT. Shoot for a 730+ score as you prepare.
I'd be happy to do a call with you and just chat about the overall business school experience, recruiting and your profile.
Best,
Well thanks for posting - you are in the right place
I think we would all agree that you are a non-traditional candidate for an MBA but that in no way makes a good MBA program inaccessible to you.
In terms of schools that have a strong MBA program with a public health focus...One of my clients just drew my attention to a new organization, the Business School Alliance for Health Management. https://bahm-alliance.org/members.php. For consults interested in heathcare, the BAHM membership list is a good source of MBA schools concentrating in healthcare.
Your profile:
You're the right age (and I would suggest applying sooner rather than later because 30 starts to get a bit old for some programs)
Nice undergrad institution + GPA
Being a RN bolsters your overall story/goals
Coming from a family that doesn't have a tradition of higher education is great material and adds to your story.
Like the fact that you've already networked your way into some leadership opportunities and have some extracurriculars.
I am wondering if:
1) someone with my background/exp even has a chance of getting into a "worthwhile" MBA program, or, since my background is fairly unique, if it matters as much which school I go to
What do you consider a worthwhile program? I use the US News rankings personally because they are the most consistent over time. Are you only interested in a top 10 school? https://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... ss-schools
2) If MBA would make more sense with my goals vs one of the other degree programs mentioned
Well a Master in Public Health would also make sense. You say that you are an introvert - consulting is about selling consulting services (in order to do that you have to help the client solve his problem obviously) but the people who do well in business are the ones who are able to network.
3) If you guys could point me towards any additional resources for more info on MBA curriculum, lifestyle, etc.
https://bahm-alliance.org/members.php
Sounds like you have a lot of big picture questions to explore here.
Obviously one thing you need to do is sit the GMAT. Shoot for a 730+ score as you prepare.
I'd be happy to do a call with you and just chat about the overall business school experience, recruiting and your profile.
Best,
29 Oct 2014, 11:06
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fallfoliage1,
Business schools love nontraditional applicants like you but will look at your GMAT/GPA, post-MBA goals statement, and leadership stories/experiences in evaluating whether you have the right stuff for an MBA program. Being a female applicant who qualifies as an underrepresented minority will also help you.Assuming that you can achieve a GMAT around 700 you might well be competitive at top MBA programs with strong healthcare focuses, such as Duke. The MBA degree is the most versatile degree if keeping your career options open is important, but you could also apply to MBA programs and MHA, MA/S programs etc. and make your decision based on the options available to you. I would want to know more about your goals before giving a recommendation there. I'd be happy to give you more focused feedback if you send me your CV: [email protected].
--Paul Bodine, Great Applications for Business School, www.paulsbodine.com/outcomes
Business schools love nontraditional applicants like you but will look at your GMAT/GPA, post-MBA goals statement, and leadership stories/experiences in evaluating whether you have the right stuff for an MBA program. Being a female applicant who qualifies as an underrepresented minority will also help you.Assuming that you can achieve a GMAT around 700 you might well be competitive at top MBA programs with strong healthcare focuses, such as Duke. The MBA degree is the most versatile degree if keeping your career options open is important, but you could also apply to MBA programs and MHA, MA/S programs etc. and make your decision based on the options available to you. I would want to know more about your goals before giving a recommendation there. I'd be happy to give you more focused feedback if you send me your CV: [email protected].
--Paul Bodine, Great Applications for Business School, www.paulsbodine.com/outcomes
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