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I'm a student of business management at a top 10 university the UK. I will graduate soon and expect a low 2:1 degree (60-62%, GPA equivalent of 3.0 to 3.3). I was distracted during the first two years of this degree and I know that my low grades are due purely to a lack of effort (and temporary poor health, for which I can provide doctor's certification) rather than my potential.
I've become much more focussed during the final year of my degree and my grades will show a strong upward trend. I now have a goal of doing an MBA in 4 years time. The problem being, I failed a statistics unit quite badly and my quantitative scores through the first two years were generally unimpressive.
Given this, I am considering a technology and operations master's degree in the UK. This degree has a a significant quantitative component and I am confident I can do well as I am far more focussed and in better health now. I want to do this to demonstrate that my academic capabilities are much better than my undergraduate grades indicate. I also feel it will offer me better job opportunities (the only job offer I currently have is from a small wealth management firm). My goal is to be in an MBA program in 4 years times and the degree is 1 year in duration, so I can either work for 4 years before my MBA or do this degree and work for 3 years before my MBA.
Do you think a good performance on this master's degree would help mitigate my bachelor's degree in the eyes of a B-School? If I do well in this degree will I be able to aim for MBA schools like NYU and UCLA or is that completely impossible (asking purely on the basis of academic qualifications they accept)? Will I be better served working straight away and just attending a summer school in statistics at NYU?
Also, will it make sense for me to look into hiring an MBA consultant at this point to evaluate my future options, or is it only recommended for when I am ready to apply to the MBA programs?
Additional information:
1. I scored in the 92nd percentile for GRE. This was based on 3 months of non-intensive prep last summer, so I could potentially get a higher on my GMAT since I will prepare extensively
2. I am an Indian female who studies in the UK and has work experience (internships) in Hong Kong and Switzerland
3. I have a lot of involvement in volunteering activities, including in leadership roles
4. My us erg audited dissertation was sponsored by a Big 4 company that I did research for
5. The financial cost of the master's isn't my primary concern, it is whether it will improve my shot at a good B-School
6. The master's degree would be a mid-ranked UK university that is quite good, but not as well-ranked as my current institution
Thank you for your help!
I've become much more focussed during the final year of my degree and my grades will show a strong upward trend. I now have a goal of doing an MBA in 4 years time. The problem being, I failed a statistics unit quite badly and my quantitative scores through the first two years were generally unimpressive.
Given this, I am considering a technology and operations master's degree in the UK. This degree has a a significant quantitative component and I am confident I can do well as I am far more focussed and in better health now. I want to do this to demonstrate that my academic capabilities are much better than my undergraduate grades indicate. I also feel it will offer me better job opportunities (the only job offer I currently have is from a small wealth management firm). My goal is to be in an MBA program in 4 years times and the degree is 1 year in duration, so I can either work for 4 years before my MBA or do this degree and work for 3 years before my MBA.
Do you think a good performance on this master's degree would help mitigate my bachelor's degree in the eyes of a B-School? If I do well in this degree will I be able to aim for MBA schools like NYU and UCLA or is that completely impossible (asking purely on the basis of academic qualifications they accept)? Will I be better served working straight away and just attending a summer school in statistics at NYU?
Also, will it make sense for me to look into hiring an MBA consultant at this point to evaluate my future options, or is it only recommended for when I am ready to apply to the MBA programs?
Additional information:
1. I scored in the 92nd percentile for GRE. This was based on 3 months of non-intensive prep last summer, so I could potentially get a higher on my GMAT since I will prepare extensively
2. I am an Indian female who studies in the UK and has work experience (internships) in Hong Kong and Switzerland
3. I have a lot of involvement in volunteering activities, including in leadership roles
4. My us erg audited dissertation was sponsored by a Big 4 company that I did research for
5. The financial cost of the master's isn't my primary concern, it is whether it will improve my shot at a good B-School
6. The master's degree would be a mid-ranked UK university that is quite good, but not as well-ranked as my current institution
Thank you for your help!
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It would benefit you to talk with a couple consultants to get some feedback and guidance. Things go a lot faster when you speak with someone on the phone and have a CV to reference.
Do you have UK citizenship or will you obtain it before applying for an MBA?
I'd pass on the Masters (maybe....) I don't like the idea of downgrading the branding on your CV by attending a less prestigious institution for your masters than for your undergrad (again without knowing where you actually went or would go it's hard to say).
To prove that you have the quant skills you need to knock the GMAT out of the park 730+ (3 tries max to do that) and you can take some college level classes such as statistics online (from a good US university). Working for 3-4 years will help distance you from your university performance. You need to figure out what you are going to do - accept the offer you have or quickly look for something else. I know how long it takes to land something in the UK so this might not even be a possibility. Even if your firm is boutique - I'd take that over the Masters.
Whether you can get into a top 10 US b-school - nobody can really speculate on that at this time. A lot is going to ride on your work experience - that said the fact that you've lived and worked in a few international locations is a nice starting point.
Good luck!
Leah
Do you have UK citizenship or will you obtain it before applying for an MBA?
I'd pass on the Masters (maybe....) I don't like the idea of downgrading the branding on your CV by attending a less prestigious institution for your masters than for your undergrad (again without knowing where you actually went or would go it's hard to say).
To prove that you have the quant skills you need to knock the GMAT out of the park 730+ (3 tries max to do that) and you can take some college level classes such as statistics online (from a good US university). Working for 3-4 years will help distance you from your university performance. You need to figure out what you are going to do - accept the offer you have or quickly look for something else. I know how long it takes to land something in the UK so this might not even be a possibility. Even if your firm is boutique - I'd take that over the Masters.
Whether you can get into a top 10 US b-school - nobody can really speculate on that at this time. A lot is going to ride on your work experience - that said the fact that you've lived and worked in a few international locations is a nice starting point.
Good luck!
Leah
Schools: HBS - Class of 2005
Posts: 9,229
Mbabane
Hey there,
Well, first of all I wouldn't do a Masters JUST for the GPA. That's a HUUUUUGE time and money investment, and do the Masters only if you really need/want it, and if it will help you (and then, yes incidentally, a nice GPA there can help. Otherwise, frankly, just doing amazing on the GRE/GMAT can be good enough to show that you are one clever dudette.
More importantly though (at at least just as importantly) is what you will actually DO int he next for years - where you will be employed, how fast you will be promoted, what achievements you will accomplish, what volunteer work and leadership you can undertake.
So it's GREAT that you are thinking ahead. This will put you waaaaay ahead of the game, but like I said if your ONLY reason to do your Masters is to cover up your grades, I don't think that alone is a good enough reason.
If you have any other questions at all, I'd be happy to advise,
Best,
JF
Posts: 2,217
So if you failed specific courses (e.g. stats) it might make more sense to take extension courses or something along those lines. Not only does it help offset your grades, it gives you practical knowledge you'll need during your MBA and it sends a powerful signal. You don't have a bad GPA - it isn't great, but it isn't something you can't improve. A Masters might be a bit overkill. It doesn't seem (and I could be wrong) that you're doing it maybe for the right reason in that it might not be as career centric as I'd like and there are better paths forward. You're young, you have time. Take 2 - 4 additional courses via UCLA or Berkeley or some other program and get going down that path. I'm not saying a Masters is wrong, it might be right, but it seems there are other, better, options?
Bhavik
Bhavik
Thanks very much for your advice Leah, John and Bhavik!
Posts: 2,217
You are most welcome! Good luck!
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