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10 Jul 2018, 03:51
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Hello Avanti Prep,
I would like to ask for some advice to choose B-School based on my profile below:
- Indonesian Nationality
- Age of 26 as of 2018
- Booked test on 10 September 2018. Worst case scenario is 620. Below that, will apply next year in order to refine GMAT score.
- Working Experience: I work in Risk Transformation and Internal Audit Advisory at Big 4 for 2.5 years. As a consultant, I help clients in transforming its business, from devising a manual for Risk Based Internal Audit, transforming Enterprise Risk Management, and helping for change management in work culture. I also familiar with business process in Car Spare-part manufacturing, Accounting, and IT (especially in application development phase). One of my client is Main Economic Regulator in Indonesia, so I worked closely with some government officers.
- Some volunteer activities: 1) Inspiring Elementary School Children to chase their dream, 2) Sports Event in Asia wide scale. Responsible as VVIP Personal Assistant for Participant Country.
- Academics: Undergraduate from The Only AACSB Accredited University at Indonesia majoring Accounting with GPA of 3.59
Some Organization and Events experience. Will detail those in CV if seen as necessary.
- Basic French Fluency (DELF A2)
The ultimate goal of my MBA is career change: geography, targeting:
a) Canada (Most realistic and desirable)
b) USA (Dream, but less realistic)
c) UK (Although I have researched that it is nearly impossible, but still need more advice)
d) France (Little information, need more advice)
e) Germany (Little information, need more advice)
Not only that, I would also like to pursue career in Management Consulting, especially in MBB, or at least Big 4. I have heard that they require GMAT for at least 700, so will try to aim for it. But this aim will more likely to be changed, especially if I have the chance to apply as high as Stanford GSB (since they require "big" values). Tech Consulting is something that I would consider too since right now I am studying data analytics.
I have shortlisted my school:
1. Ivey Business School (Met the recruitment manager, just need to aim high score for GMAT)
2. Oxford Said (Met the recruitment manager, he said that I have a chance)
3. Stanford GSB (The dream, but I've realized that the chance is really low, so need more advice)
4. NYU Stern (Second dream, more realistic than Stanford GSB, but still very low chance, need more advice)
5. Manchester Business School (Met the recruitment manager, positive discussion)
6. INSEAD (Still need more research for qualifications, especially in international exposure)
I will need some advice:
1. Whether there are gaps for my shortlisted school. How can I fulfill it?
2. Any other school suggestion to meet my goal, which is change career: geography and career in management consulting. Or other Country suggestion to support career in management consulting or tech consulting
Thank you for your kind attention. Looking forward for your review.
Kind regards,
Cakra
I would like to ask for some advice to choose B-School based on my profile below:
- Indonesian Nationality
- Age of 26 as of 2018
- Booked test on 10 September 2018. Worst case scenario is 620. Below that, will apply next year in order to refine GMAT score.
- Working Experience: I work in Risk Transformation and Internal Audit Advisory at Big 4 for 2.5 years. As a consultant, I help clients in transforming its business, from devising a manual for Risk Based Internal Audit, transforming Enterprise Risk Management, and helping for change management in work culture. I also familiar with business process in Car Spare-part manufacturing, Accounting, and IT (especially in application development phase). One of my client is Main Economic Regulator in Indonesia, so I worked closely with some government officers.
- Some volunteer activities: 1) Inspiring Elementary School Children to chase their dream, 2) Sports Event in Asia wide scale. Responsible as VVIP Personal Assistant for Participant Country.
- Academics: Undergraduate from The Only AACSB Accredited University at Indonesia majoring Accounting with GPA of 3.59
Some Organization and Events experience. Will detail those in CV if seen as necessary.
- Basic French Fluency (DELF A2)
The ultimate goal of my MBA is career change: geography, targeting:
a) Canada (Most realistic and desirable)
b) USA (Dream, but less realistic)
c) UK (Although I have researched that it is nearly impossible, but still need more advice)
d) France (Little information, need more advice)
e) Germany (Little information, need more advice)
Not only that, I would also like to pursue career in Management Consulting, especially in MBB, or at least Big 4. I have heard that they require GMAT for at least 700, so will try to aim for it. But this aim will more likely to be changed, especially if I have the chance to apply as high as Stanford GSB (since they require "big" values). Tech Consulting is something that I would consider too since right now I am studying data analytics.
I have shortlisted my school:
1. Ivey Business School (Met the recruitment manager, just need to aim high score for GMAT)
2. Oxford Said (Met the recruitment manager, he said that I have a chance)
3. Stanford GSB (The dream, but I've realized that the chance is really low, so need more advice)
4. NYU Stern (Second dream, more realistic than Stanford GSB, but still very low chance, need more advice)
5. Manchester Business School (Met the recruitment manager, positive discussion)
6. INSEAD (Still need more research for qualifications, especially in international exposure)
I will need some advice:
1. Whether there are gaps for my shortlisted school. How can I fulfill it?
2. Any other school suggestion to meet my goal, which is change career: geography and career in management consulting. Or other Country suggestion to support career in management consulting or tech consulting
Thank you for your kind attention. Looking forward for your review.
Kind regards,
Cakra
11 Jul 2018, 08:01
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Hi luncent,
Thank you for your post. I'd encourage you to try to define your geographic and career goals, and then allow that to inform where you'd like to pursue your MBA. What do you hope to do and accomplish? Where do you hope to end up? Ask yourself those questions. Right now, targeting programs in half a dozen countries can make the school selection process quite open-ended and difficult.
You should also look at the average GMAT scores and class profiles for the programs you've listed (and any others you might consider). The average GMATs at the programs you've listed are 737 (Stanford), 714 (NYU Stern), 708 (INSEAD), 690 (Oxford), 657 (Ivey), and 630 (Manchester), or thereabouts. To be candid, all of these schools are going to be difficult if you only get a 620, and most will be impossible. The first four or five I've listed probably wouldn't even be worth considering with a low 600s score. You would need to recalibrate your school choices more line with your GMAT score.
With that in mind, I strongly encourage you to focus your efforts on boosting your score. If you break into the low 700s, you might begin to consider applying to NYU Stern or INSEAD. (Can still apply with a score in the high 600s, but that will be a reach.) Unfortunately I do not see Stanford as viable for you, and I would encourage you to instead devote your time to applying to a program where you have a more realistic chance of getting in. Again, your GMAT score will be very important in determining what a "realistic" mix of schools would look like for you.
On the career goals side, I'd again encourage you to further refine and define where you want to end up professionally and geographically. You're considering two whole continents at the moment, which can make school selection quite overwhelming. If you end up deciding on more of a technology-related career goal, then you can back into where (geographically) and which schools would be most appropriate.
Other things to boost your profile and future chances:
- Read this blog post for a series of cornerstones and "overlooked elements" of the application process: https://www.avantiprep.com/blog/the-mos ... on-process
- Raise your hand for extra challenges, initiatives, leadership opportunities, or responsibilities at work. It's easy to put your hands in your pockets when the organization needs a junior person to spearhead a group or initiative. You're plenty busy with your regular job, after all. You don't need to raise your hand every time. But pick and choose the right spots where you can have a positive impact beyond your core job responsibilities.
- Find a couple of "extracurriculars" outside of work that have a positive impact on the community and/or are super meaningful to you. You see to have some already. But try to deepen that and take on leadership roles when and where you can. Real depth, time, leadership, and impact in a couple of areas (or with a couple of organizations) is better than sporadically trying your hand in a whole bunch of different things. Maybe one deep channel is very community related. Maybe another is more passion oriented. Do things that really resonate with you.
Please feel free to reach out if you'd ever like formal assistance with School Selection or anything else! (My School Selection work with clients would typically start with something like two hours of service.) You can read more about Avanti Prep's services here: https://www.avantiprep.com/services.html
Best Regards,
Greg
Thank you for your post. I'd encourage you to try to define your geographic and career goals, and then allow that to inform where you'd like to pursue your MBA. What do you hope to do and accomplish? Where do you hope to end up? Ask yourself those questions. Right now, targeting programs in half a dozen countries can make the school selection process quite open-ended and difficult.
You should also look at the average GMAT scores and class profiles for the programs you've listed (and any others you might consider). The average GMATs at the programs you've listed are 737 (Stanford), 714 (NYU Stern), 708 (INSEAD), 690 (Oxford), 657 (Ivey), and 630 (Manchester), or thereabouts. To be candid, all of these schools are going to be difficult if you only get a 620, and most will be impossible. The first four or five I've listed probably wouldn't even be worth considering with a low 600s score. You would need to recalibrate your school choices more line with your GMAT score.
With that in mind, I strongly encourage you to focus your efforts on boosting your score. If you break into the low 700s, you might begin to consider applying to NYU Stern or INSEAD. (Can still apply with a score in the high 600s, but that will be a reach.) Unfortunately I do not see Stanford as viable for you, and I would encourage you to instead devote your time to applying to a program where you have a more realistic chance of getting in. Again, your GMAT score will be very important in determining what a "realistic" mix of schools would look like for you.
On the career goals side, I'd again encourage you to further refine and define where you want to end up professionally and geographically. You're considering two whole continents at the moment, which can make school selection quite overwhelming. If you end up deciding on more of a technology-related career goal, then you can back into where (geographically) and which schools would be most appropriate.
Other things to boost your profile and future chances:
- Read this blog post for a series of cornerstones and "overlooked elements" of the application process: https://www.avantiprep.com/blog/the-mos ... on-process
- Raise your hand for extra challenges, initiatives, leadership opportunities, or responsibilities at work. It's easy to put your hands in your pockets when the organization needs a junior person to spearhead a group or initiative. You're plenty busy with your regular job, after all. You don't need to raise your hand every time. But pick and choose the right spots where you can have a positive impact beyond your core job responsibilities.
- Find a couple of "extracurriculars" outside of work that have a positive impact on the community and/or are super meaningful to you. You see to have some already. But try to deepen that and take on leadership roles when and where you can. Real depth, time, leadership, and impact in a couple of areas (or with a couple of organizations) is better than sporadically trying your hand in a whole bunch of different things. Maybe one deep channel is very community related. Maybe another is more passion oriented. Do things that really resonate with you.
Please feel free to reach out if you'd ever like formal assistance with School Selection or anything else! (My School Selection work with clients would typically start with something like two hours of service.) You can read more about Avanti Prep's services here: https://www.avantiprep.com/services.html
Best Regards,
Greg
11 Jul 2018, 20:08
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Dear Greg,
Thank you very much for your extensive review. I really appreciate your effort in making it. In conclusion, 700 or at least high 600s is the least score if I want to aim for the first five. And it is happy to hear that I still have a chance at Stern and INSEAD if I got the low 700 score.
Your suggestion on how I could improve is really helping me a lot in building my profile. I'd sure to take a note of those.
Once again, thank you so much for your kind review.
Kind regards,
Cakra
Thank you very much for your extensive review. I really appreciate your effort in making it. In conclusion, 700 or at least high 600s is the least score if I want to aim for the first five. And it is happy to hear that I still have a chance at Stern and INSEAD if I got the low 700 score.
Your suggestion on how I could improve is really helping me a lot in building my profile. I'd sure to take a note of those.
Once again, thank you so much for your kind review.
Kind regards,
Cakra
