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26 Jul 2007, 07:06
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I am currently a senior at Florida State University. I'll be applying to law school this fall, but am leaning toward staying until spring '09 so that I can complete a triple major in Political Science, Physics and Applied Mathematics.
I plan to study corporate/business law and hope to enter into a joint MBA program. Ideally, I'd like to practice in Manhattan, and Columbia/NYU/Harvard sit atop my list right now.
I'd like to ask several questions:
1) I noticed that my numbers fall nicely into the top business schools, however in the average age category, I am certainly younger than most. I'll be 22 or 23 when I graduate (depending if I stay until '09)? Is there a disadvantage to being younger when applying to b-schools or is it simply a derivative of the market?
2) My GPA is/will be around a 3.4-3.5 upon graduation. My LSAT should be high enough (low 170s) to be competitive at these law schools, and while I haven't officially begun to prep for the GMAT, my practice scores thus far indicate I should be able to break into the 700-750 range. How much will my lower GPA hurt me in terms of applying to b-schools? How will getting accepted to a program's law school affect my chances, if at all?
3) Where might I find a good resource to better educate myself on the top b-schools for their various specialties? So far, I have mostly been perusing each school's curriculum guide, but other than the spectrum of classes offered, I am not sure how to personally rank each program.
4) What is a sufficient time to prep for the GMAT? For the LSAT, I've spent a few months and probably will spend a few more. I feel that the GMAT is an order of magnitude easier, but I don't want to do anything less than obliterate this test when I take it.
5) How much of an advantage/disadvantage would my non-Business undergrad be? When I apply this fall it will be with a Political Science major and a double minor in Mathematics/Physics. If I apply in '08 (which I am leaning toward), I would apply with a triple major in the three. I am planning to take one introductory finance course this fall (Financial Management of the Firm, supposedly the core of quantitative skills necessary to be a Finance Major).
I probably have a few more questions that I can't yet articulate, but for any answers or insight into these five I would be highly appreciative.
I plan to study corporate/business law and hope to enter into a joint MBA program. Ideally, I'd like to practice in Manhattan, and Columbia/NYU/Harvard sit atop my list right now.
I'd like to ask several questions:
1) I noticed that my numbers fall nicely into the top business schools, however in the average age category, I am certainly younger than most. I'll be 22 or 23 when I graduate (depending if I stay until '09)? Is there a disadvantage to being younger when applying to b-schools or is it simply a derivative of the market?
2) My GPA is/will be around a 3.4-3.5 upon graduation. My LSAT should be high enough (low 170s) to be competitive at these law schools, and while I haven't officially begun to prep for the GMAT, my practice scores thus far indicate I should be able to break into the 700-750 range. How much will my lower GPA hurt me in terms of applying to b-schools? How will getting accepted to a program's law school affect my chances, if at all?
3) Where might I find a good resource to better educate myself on the top b-schools for their various specialties? So far, I have mostly been perusing each school's curriculum guide, but other than the spectrum of classes offered, I am not sure how to personally rank each program.
4) What is a sufficient time to prep for the GMAT? For the LSAT, I've spent a few months and probably will spend a few more. I feel that the GMAT is an order of magnitude easier, but I don't want to do anything less than obliterate this test when I take it.
5) How much of an advantage/disadvantage would my non-Business undergrad be? When I apply this fall it will be with a Political Science major and a double minor in Mathematics/Physics. If I apply in '08 (which I am leaning toward), I would apply with a triple major in the three. I am planning to take one introductory finance course this fall (Financial Management of the Firm, supposedly the core of quantitative skills necessary to be a Finance Major).
I probably have a few more questions that I can't yet articulate, but for any answers or insight into these five I would be highly appreciative.
28 Jul 2007, 17:21
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MLBrandow
MLBrandow,
1) Yes, there is definitely a disadvantage. Some schools are reaching out more to young applicants like yourself but most schools still prefer to see 2-3 years of W/E.
2) Your GPA doesn't seem all that low to me, so with a high GMAT score there will be no negative for you with B-schools. Law schools are more GPA obsessed. One issue is the FSU is not an academic powerhouse and schools take into account the rigorousness of applicants' colleges. You will have to earn admission to the B-schools on your own merits; they don't give you any slack for having been admitted to their university's law school.
3) BusinessWeek's online MBA site is quite good and Princeton Review's Best 290 Business Schools is a good general source. Also check out Vault's Business School Buzz book.
4) I am not a GMAT expert; better check another GMATClub thread.
5) A non-business major is an advantage because it's not as common, and therefore helps you stand out from the pack. Schools try to build diverse classes.
Good luck,
29 Jul 2007, 09:00
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pbodine,
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I have a few follow-up responses/questions:
1) Is there a list of schools that are specifically targeting younger applicants, or do you mean this as just a general shift in the application process? Would a year as a 1L at Target B-School give me a better shot at admittance?
2) I have been told that while absolute rigorousness of an applicant's coursework is taken into account, the relative rigorousness (courses taken versus courses available) is also taken into account. How much would my striving to take the most difficult courses at FSU mitigate the school's overall quality?
5) I know that it is difficult to quantify soft factors, but just how much of an advantage do you think it would be? Some believe in a general rule of thumb that a hard science degree holder can except about a +.1GPA boost in corresponding weight. This is a somewhat rudimentary comparison, but it does help to gauge a ballpark weight. What sorts of leadership skills and extracurriculars are B-schools looking to find? What else can I do to further set myself apart?
Thanks again for taking the time to read and respond, and any insight is greatly appreciated.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I have a few follow-up responses/questions:
1) Is there a list of schools that are specifically targeting younger applicants, or do you mean this as just a general shift in the application process? Would a year as a 1L at Target B-School give me a better shot at admittance?
2) I have been told that while absolute rigorousness of an applicant's coursework is taken into account, the relative rigorousness (courses taken versus courses available) is also taken into account. How much would my striving to take the most difficult courses at FSU mitigate the school's overall quality?
5) I know that it is difficult to quantify soft factors, but just how much of an advantage do you think it would be? Some believe in a general rule of thumb that a hard science degree holder can except about a +.1GPA boost in corresponding weight. This is a somewhat rudimentary comparison, but it does help to gauge a ballpark weight. What sorts of leadership skills and extracurriculars are B-schools looking to find? What else can I do to further set myself apart?
Thanks again for taking the time to read and respond, and any insight is greatly appreciated.
