Proponents of the recent banking law changes assert that

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Proponents of the recent banking law changes assert that federal deregulation of investment procedures has  neither exposed smaller banks to unfair competition nor increased corporate monopoly, and also has not  compromised the government's basic long-term commitment to the free market.

a. neither exposed smaller banks to unfair competition nor increased corporate monopoly, and also has not 
b. neither exposed smaller banks to unfair competition or increased corporate monopoly or 
c. not exposed smaller banks to unfair competition or increased corporate monopoly, nor has it 
d. not exposed smaller banks to unfair competition nor increased corporate monopoly, and it has not 
e. neither exposed smaller banks to unfair competition, increased corporate monopoly, nor has it

I found this one confusing, though it looks simple idiom construction. Pls clarify which one would you choose and why ?

gameCode · Accepted Answer

The source is kaplan and the QA is c.

Here's the explanation they give :

None of the answer choices here are particularly succinct, so you'll have to choose the best possible choice. Remember that "neither...nor" never occurs when there are three subjects in a listing; furthermore, recall that "neither" can't occur without a "nor". This eliminates Choices (A), (B) and (E). Given a choice between (C) and (D), both of which employ the word "nor" without "neither", Choice (C) is more concise and therefore the better formulation.

masuhari · Answer

A - original sentence has neither, nor, and.....so incorrect
B - uses neither, or , or....incorrect as well
C - uses not, or, nor....incorrect
D - user not, nor, and...incorrect
E - uses neither, nor....Correct

E is IMHO a rather uncommon use of neither, nor...but I tend to use it in my own writing and Microsoft word doesn't seem to have a grief. It sounds fine to me, so for such idiomatic qns, I'd go with my gut which says Answer is E.

What is the source gamecode?

hibloom · Answer

I got C for this one straight away. But Kaplan does offer some strange OEs

Neither A or B nor C......would have been the most ideal choice

choice C with 
 has not A or B nor has it C remains the best of all the options

moreover 
not A nor B is one of the accepted usages

rsaraiya · Answer

It seems like everyone one is getting a different answer... BTW I dont agree with the Kaplan explanation...
My answer was A and here's how are reached it...

Parallel Structure...
Proponents of the recent banking law changes assert that federal deregulation of investment procedures...(has neither exposed smaller banks to unfair competition nor increased corporate monopoly), and also ...(has not compromised the government's basic long-term commitment to the free market.)

Both of these independently make sense...
...federal deregulation of investment procedures...(has neither exposed smaller banks to unfair competition nor increased corporate monopoly)
...federal deregulation of investment procedures...(has not compromised the government's basic long-term commitment to the free market.)

So, A...

crick20002002 · Answer

To check the validity of A lets break up the original sentence:

Proponents of the recent banking law changes assert that federal deregulation of investment procedures 
has 
1) neither exposed smaller banks to unfair competition 
2) nor, increased corporate monopoly, 
3) and also has not compromised the government's basic long-term commitment to the free market.

As you can see, for 3rd part reads like:

XXXXXX has also not has not XXXXXXXXX  => Incorrect. Thats why A is incorrect.

B has neither...or... => Incorrect
E has neither..., ...., nor => Incorrect ( It should have been neither..., nor ...., nor .....)
D is awkward.

C wins.

Crick

sandman13 · Answer

OE:

The underlined portion uses "neither ... nor" correctly, but it follows the comma with "and also has not ...." When "and" is used as a conjunction, it must join two sentence elements in parallel form. However, the "neither ... nor" construction is complete, and no new subject is introduced after the comma. Finally, the phrase "and also" is redundant. Eliminate (A).

Scan and Group the Answer Choices:

The answer choices tackle the arrangement of the things deregulation has not done in various ways, and grouping will not be efficiently. Proceed to test the choices one at a time.

Eliminate Wrong Answer Choices:

(B) uses "neither" with "or," which is unacceptable.

(C) uses "not ... or" instead of "neither ... nor," which is perfectly fine as long as the two parts of the construction are parallel, which they are here. After the final comma, "nor" is used as a conjunction, and the word "it" is added to provide a subject for the final clause. Everything is acceptable, making (C) the correct answer. For the record:

(D) uses "not ... nor," which is unacceptable.For comparisons, the correct idiom is either not ... or or neither ... nor. Mixing and matching is not allowed.

(E) uses "neither ... nor" to compare three items and only includes "nor" before the last item. Neither is rarely used for lists. If used, it would require a nor before each item after the first. (For example, consider the unofficial US Postal Service motto: "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night ...").

This post is for my own reference

LIBERTYRodP · Answer

MEANING, PARALLELISM

NOTE: "Neither X nor Y" is a correlative idiom. However, IT DOES NOT MEAN, that "nor" can only be used with "neither". "Nor" is a conjunction and can be used alone, as well.

a. neither exposed smaller banks to unfair competition nor increased corporate monopoly, and also has not   ---- Wrong meaning. "And also hasn't" does not convey the negative meaning necessary.

b. neither exposed smaller banks to unfair competition or increased corporate monopoly or  ------- "Neither ...or" is not a correct idiom.

c. not exposed smaller banks to unfair competition or increased corporate monopoly, nor has it   ------- CORRECT. "Nor" is used to link two clauses, and conveys the right meaning.

d. not exposed smaller banks to unfair competition nor increased corporate monopoly, and it has not  -------- "Not X nor Y" is an incorrect idiom.

e. neither exposed smaller banks to unfair competition, increased corporate monopoly, nor has it -  ------ "Neither X nor Y" should link two elements, not three.

sudeepmodak · Answer

Can ninja help in solving this?

Crytiocanalyst · Answer

a. neither exposed smaller banks to unfair competition nor increased corporate monopoly, and also has not 
neither nor is used for 2 subjects and not 3 three for out

b. neither exposed smaller banks to unfair competition or increased corporate monopoly or 
neither cannot be associated without nor therefore out

c. not exposed smaller banks to unfair competition or increased corporate monopoly, nor has it 
This is better of all the bad guys therefore let us hang on to it

d. not exposed smaller banks to unfair competition nor increased corporate monopoly, and it has not 
C fells better consice thherefore out

e. neither exposed smaller banks to unfair competition, increased corporate monopoly, nor has it 
Similar reasoning as A

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