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Mike, you are amazing at explaining things! I did a Veritas Prep exam and had trouble understanding their explanation so I searched it up on the forum. Turns out you're explaining things here just as well as Magoosh. Thank you, I am so happy I purchased Magoosh!
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If we draw a circumcircle around a 45-45-90 (this) triangle, we can solve this question within 1 minute :-D
By drawing circle we will get "a/ 2^1/2" as radii and we already know side as 'a'
we get 45-45-90 triangles with side "a/ 2^1/2" and hypotenuse as 'a'

perimeter _/2 * a + a = p - a

Hope I am correct in this approach... :oops:
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If we draw a circumcircle around a 45-45-90 (this) triangle, we can solve this question within 1 minute :-D
By drawing circle we will get a/\sqrt{2} as radii and we already know side as a
we get 45-45-90 triangles with side a/\sqrt{2} and hyp. a

perimeter \sqrt{2}a + a = p - a

Hope I am correct in this approach... :oops:
Dear sanket1991,
I'm happy to respond. :-) Your approach is correct and insightful.

I would say: if you are going to write math on GC, it would be good to learn the conventions for writing proper math symbols on this site. See:
writing-mathematical-formulas-in-the-gmat-club-forums-this-72468.html

Best of luck, my friend.
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Now, we draw AD, dividing the ABC into two smaller congruent triangles. AC = a is not the hypotenuse, so each leg is

AD = CD = \(\frac{a}{sqrt(2)}\) = \(\frac{a*sqrt(2)}{2}\)


Hi,
I don't really get it. Could you tell me what do you mean by "AC = a is not the hypotenuse, so each leg is

AD = CD" ?
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Now, we draw AD, dividing the ABC into two smaller congruent triangles. AC = a is not the hypotenuse, so each leg is

AD = CD = \(\frac{a}{sqrt(2)}\) = \(\frac{a*sqrt(2)}{2}\)


Hi,
I don't really get it. Could you tell me what do you mean by "AC = a is not the hypotenuse, so each leg is

AD = CD" ?
Dear oss198,
I'm sorry, my friend! That was a typo, and no one else pointed it out until now. When I said:
AC = a is not the hypotenuse, so each leg is ...
I meant
AC = a is now the hypotenuse, so each leg is ...
I just changed that in the post above. Thank you for pointing this out.

Does all this make sense now?
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Now, we draw AD, dividing the ABC into two smaller congruent triangles. AC = a is not the hypotenuse, so each leg is

AD = CD = \(\frac{a}{sqrt(2)}\) = \(\frac{a*sqrt(2)}{2}\)


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I don't really get it. Could you tell me what do you mean by "AC = a is not the hypotenuse, so each leg is

AD = CD" ?
Dear oss198,
I'm sorry, my friend! That was a typo, and no one else pointed it out until now. When I said:
AC = a is not the hypotenuse, so each leg is ...
I meant
AC = a is now the hypotenuse, so each leg is ...
I just changed that in the post above. Thank you for pointing this out.

Does all this make sense now?
Mike :-)

Thank you for your answer Mike, I'm sorry but can you now precise how do you conclude that AD = CD?
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Thank you for your answer Mike, I'm sorry but can you now precise how do you conclude that AD = CD?
I'm happy to respond. :-)
My friend, you have to know the Isosceles Triangle Theorem, one of the cornerstones of Geometry:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/isosceles- ... -the-gmat/
We know that angle ACD = 45 degrees, and we know that segment AD bisects the right angle, so angle DAC is 45 degrees. Because those two angles are equal, it absolutely must be true that AD = CD.
Does this make sense?
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Thank you for your answer Mike, I'm sorry but can you now precise how do you conclude that AD = CD?
I'm happy to respond. :-)
My friend, you have to know the Isosceles Triangle Theorem, one of the cornerstones of Geometry:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/isosceles- ... -the-gmat/
We know that angle ACD = 45 degrees, and we know that segment AD bisects the right angle, so angle DAC is 45 degrees. Because those two angles are equal, it absolutely must be true that AD = CD.
Does this make sense?
Mike :-)

ooh right i didn't see that :oops:

thank you so much!
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An isosceles right triangle with a leg of length "a" and perimeter "p" is further divided into two similar triangles of equal area. Which of the following represents the perimeter of one of these smaller triangles?
A. p/2
B. p−a
C. (p+a)/2
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E. \(p-a\sqrt{2}\)
This is a HARD question. A good challenging question :-) --- probably at the upper limit of difficulty of what the GMAT would ask.

Here's a blog about the properties of 45-45-90 triangles:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/the-gmats- ... triangles/
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We know the legs have length a, so the hypotenuse BC = \(a*sqrt(2)\). Therefore the perimeter, p, equals
p = \(2a + a*sqrt(2)\)

OK, hold onto that piece and put it aside a moment.

Now, we draw AD, dividing the ABC into two smaller congruent triangles. AC = a is now the hypotenuse, so each leg is

AD = CD = \(\frac{a}{sqrt(2)}\) = \(\frac{a*sqrt(2)}{2}\)

Incidentally, on that final step, "rationalizing the denominator", here's a blog article:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/gmat-math- ... uare-root/

Therefore, AD + CD = \(a*sqrt(2)\), and

new perimeter = AC + AD + CD = \(a + a*sqrt(2)\)

The only difference between this "new perimeter" and p is the extra "a", so

p = \(2a + a*sqrt(2)\) = \(a + a + a*sqrt(2)\) = a + "new perimeter"

So,

new perimeter = p - a

Answer = (B)

Let me know if anyone reading this has any questions.

Mike :-)



Hi,
Is AD=DC always (triangle on the right) in such a scenario. I thought it should be equal, but spent maybe a minute proving it to myself.
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Just wanted to share, Kind of an easy but tricky question...

Q.) An isosceles right triangle with a leg of length a and perimeter p is further divided into two similar triangles of equal area. Which of the following represents the perimeter of one of these smaller triangles?

A.) p/2
B.) p−a
C.) p+a/2
D.) 2a
E.) p−a\sqrt{2}


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Pretty good question actually ,enjoyed solving it :)

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Just wanted to share, Kind of an easy but tricky question...

Q.) An isosceles right triangle with a leg of length a and perimeter p is further divided into two similar triangles of equal area. Which of the following represents the perimeter of one of these smaller triangles?

A.) p/2
B.) p−a
C.) p+a/2
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Answer = B.) p−a

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Figure I

Hypotenuse \(= \sqrt{a^2 + a^2} = a\sqrt{2}\)

Given that \(a + a + a\sqrt{2} = p\)

\(2a + a\sqrt{2} = p\) ............... (1)

Figure II

Divide Fig I in two parts

Two new equal size isosceles right triangles are formed,

Height & base of small isosceles right triangle \(= \frac{1}{2} a\sqrt{2} = \frac{a}{sqrt{2}}\)

Perimeter of small isosceles right triangle

\(= a + \frac{a}{sqrt{2}} + \frac{a}{sqrt{2}}\)

\(= a + a\sqrt{2}\)

\(= 2a + a\sqrt{2} - a\)

= p - a (From I)
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Just wanted to share, Kind of an easy but tricky question...

Q.) An isosceles right triangle with a leg of length a and perimeter p is further divided into two similar triangles of equal area. Which of the following represents the perimeter of one of these smaller triangles?

A.) p/2
B.) p−a
C.) p+a/2
D.) 2a
E.) p−a\sqrt{2}


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Given is the isosceles right triangle with leg of length a. The hypotenuse will be \(\sqrt{2}a\) using pythagorean theorem.
We are given \(a + a + \sqrt{2}a = p\)
\(p = 2a + \sqrt{2}a\)

When you drop an altitude to make 2 smaller similar triangles, the length of the altitude is say L.

Area of the big triangle = \((1/2)*a*a = (1/2)*\sqrt{2}a * L\)
\(L = a/\sqrt{2}\)

Perimeter of small triangle \(= a + L + \sqrt{2}a/2 = a + a/\sqrt{2} + \sqrt{2}a/2 = a + \sqrt{2}a\)
But we need the perimeter in terms of p too.
\(p = 2a + \sqrt{2}a\)
So \(\sqrt{2}a = p - 2a\)

Perimeter of small triangle \(= a + p - 2a = p - a\)

Answer (B)
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Just to add on Karishma.

As per my knowledge, an altitude doesn't divide a triangle into 2 equal triangles having the same area.
It's the median.
In this case as the triangle is right angled triangle, and Karishma have mentioned how to calculate the longest side i.e. the hypotenuse using the Pythogorus Theorem.

there's one property of the median drawn on the hypotenuse in a right angled triangle.
Median = 1/2 * Hypotenuse = a/sqrt2

and we can accordingly proceed with the question.
Correct me if I am wrong somewhere.
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Just to add on Karishma.

As per my knowledge, an altitude doesn't divide a triangle into 2 equal triangles having the same area.
It's the median.
In this case as the triangle is right angled triangle, and Karishma have mentioned how to calculate the longest side i.e. the hypotenuse using the Pythogorus Theorem.

there's one property of the median drawn on the hypotenuse in a right angled triangle.
Median = 1/2 * Hypotenuse = a/sqrt2

and we can accordingly proceed with the question.
Correct me if I am wrong somewhere.

For an Isosceles right triangle, altitude (height) = median
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DesiGmat altitude is median since its an isoceles triangle so it works in this case
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Altitute can't be the median in isoscles right angle traingle.

In the figure attached, in isosceles right angled triangle ABC, AB is an altitude but not a median.
Similarly BD is perpendicular to AC, but it doesn't mean that AD = DC

and in isoscles right angled triangle PQR, PS can be the median(not altitude) and it divides the triangle PQR into two equal traingles of same area

Correct me if i am wrong
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