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hello sir..

here when you have calculated the mean .. as per the data in 1st option mean should include 8 in the set and its value is 12.5

but you have excluded it...
can you just let me know where i am goin wrong


please explain me about the relation between mean and median.....

I don't understand what you mean.

(1) says: The average of the set containing the numbers x, y, z, and 8 is 12.5. So, \(\frac{x+y+z+8}{4}=12.5\) --> \(x+y+z+8=4*12.5=50\) --> \(x+y+z=42\).
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I had a doubt regarding option A:

In that we are given that x + y+ z = 42 and also that range is 8.

Now lets say smallest number is x and largest is z then equation is (x) + (x+n) + (x+8). Where 0<n<8 .

isnt this constraint enough to give us the required answer? Since we are just looking for the smallest number, for finding the middle number we will need another equation.
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I had a doubt regarding option A:

In that we are given that x + y+ z = 42 and also that range is 8.

Now lets say smallest number is x and largest is z then equation is (x) + (x+n) + (x+8). Where 0<n<8 .

isnt this constraint enough to give us the required answer? Since we are just looking for the smallest number, for finding the middle number we will need another equation.

From (1) we can have many options, for example: {10, 14, 18} or {11, 12, 19}, therefore this statement is not sufficient.

Hope it's clear.
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If the range of the set containing the numbers x, y, and z is 8, what is the value of the smallest number in the set?

(1) The average of the set containing the numbers x, y, z, and 8 is 12.5.
(2) The mean and the median of the set containing the numbers x, y, and z are equal.


C.

did it like this

1) x+y+z+8 = 50
=> x+y+z = 42
and |x-z| = 8
so, sets can be: {8,16,16}, {9,15,17}, {10,14,18}, {11,13,19}, and {12,12,20}
A is insufficient.

2) (x+y+z)/3 = y
=> x+z = 2y
and |x-z| = 8
B is insufficient.

(1)+(2)
among the sets in (1) the sets which have x+z = 2y is {10,14,18}
hence C.
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If the question statement would have specified to find the least possible value of the smallest number then the answer would be choice 'A', right ?

And the value of the smallest number in that case would be 0.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Bunuel VeritasKarishma

If the question statement would have specified to find the least possible value of the smallest number then the answer would be choice 'A', right ?

And the value of the smallest number in that case would be 0.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks
Saurabh


Saurabh,

Note that minimum/maximum values of variables may not make sense in DS questions.
Say the question is what is the smallest value of integer x?
Stmnt 1: x is a positive integer.
Smallest value of x is 1.
Stmtn 2: x > 10
Smallest value of x is 11. As you get more information, your answer may be different.
Hence, the DS question may not make a lot of sense.


Additionally, in our original question, using stmnt 1 alone, the smallest possible value of x is not 0.

Range of x, y, z = 8
Say z is the greatest number and x the smallest.
x = z - 8 and y must lie between x and z.

Mean of x, y, z, 8 = 12.5
Note that 8 is already 4.5 less than 12.5. So there needs to be atleast one number greater than 12.5
If x needs the smallest value, z needs to be greatest but z cannot be 8 more than x. We need to maximise positive deviation so y = z

x + (x + 8) + (x + 8) = 42
x = 8.667
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Bunuel VeritasKarishma

If the question statement would have specified to find the least possible value of the smallest number then the answer would be choice 'A', right ?

And the value of the smallest number in that case would be 0.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks
Saurabh

Saurabh,

Note that minimum/maximum values of variables may not make sense in DS questions.
Say the question is what is the smallest value of integer x?
Stmnt 1: x is a positive integer.
Smallest value of x is 1.
Stmtn 2: x > 10
Smallest value of x is 11. As you get more information, your answer may be different.
Hence, the DS question may not make a lot of sense.


Additionally, in our original question, using stmnt 1 alone, the smallest possible value of x is not 0.

Range of x, y, z = 8
Say z is the greatest number and x the smallest.
x = z - 8 and y must lie between x and z.

Mean of x, y, z, 8 = 12.5
Note that 8 is already 4.5 less than 12.5. So there needs to be atleast one number greater than 12.5
If x needs the smallest value, z needs to be greatest but z cannot be 8 more than x. We need to maximise positive deviation so y = z

x + (x + 8) + (x + 8) = 42
x = 8.667
­since you are able to find the least value of x as 8.667 shouldn't the answer be A?
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­Range(x,y,z) = 8;

Statement 1:

[x+y+z+8]/4 = 12.5
x+y+z+8 = 50
x+y+z = 42 (Insufficient to find the smallest number)

Statement 2:

Mean = Median
Example 1:
Consider x=2(smallest), y=6, z=10;
Example 2:
Consider x=4(smallest), y=8, z=12;

Both of the examples has the same Range.
Therefore two of the smallest integers have different values.(Insufficient)

By combining both the statements,
From Statement 1,

x+y+z = 42
[x+y+z]/3 = 14

Since Mean = median from Statement 2, Consider the value y as median which states that y = 14,

Therefore using the value y=14, it is sufficient to find out the smallest value(x=10), and the largest value(z=18).
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