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13 Mar 2018, 04:29
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Hey guys,
I am torn between offers from Rice and Kelley
I have a background in Oil and Gas industry in India and MiddleEast and want to go into consulting post mba.
To me plus points of Rice are :
Houston (Texas being Oil and gas capital of US), Energy industry consulting projects at major consulting firms in the vicinity and less number of indians but cost of attendance way too high.
At Kelley plus point is less cost, better brand, and ranking, bigger alumni base but the downside is remote location and 40+ Indians in a class of 200 (recruiting has been a big issue with 2018 batch even with 24 Indians so I am terrified).
I am torn between offers from Rice and Kelley
I have a background in Oil and Gas industry in India and MiddleEast and want to go into consulting post mba.
To me plus points of Rice are :
Houston (Texas being Oil and gas capital of US), Energy industry consulting projects at major consulting firms in the vicinity and less number of indians but cost of attendance way too high.
At Kelley plus point is less cost, better brand, and ranking, bigger alumni base but the downside is remote location and 40+ Indians in a class of 200 (recruiting has been a big issue with 2018 batch even with 24 Indians so I am terrified).
13 Mar 2018, 10:31
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Congratulations Mihir!
It seemed an easy question as i read the first 2 lines. Then it got complicated. I think this is a somewhat old story with new actors- Opportunity vs. Safety. You will find safety in Kelley with higher rankings and lower cost vs. potential opportunity to get a better job at Jones...
A few things to consider:
1. There are new rankings coming in a week or so (US News has provided some sneak peak) and we may see Jones go up. The program has made a lot of strides to improve in the last 10 years https://gmatclub.com/forum/mba-rankings ... ml#p770991 - you will notice it went from #40 to #25. It did very well esp during the recession. Currently at #29 US news, while Kelley has been a solid 20-22 band in comparison and if the data you are referring to (job reports) is accurate, the rankings will likely ding Kelley for that. The two programs may be close-ish.
2. Oil and gas industry has been doing bad for the last 5 years with the oil price as low as it is. Chevron's stock is down 1% since 2013 - some may say it is a pretty bleak picture and others may suggest that by 2020 it has to recover and get back on track - you probably know better.
3. Most of your finaid in Kelley comes from GA. You have approached Jones about GA? There is a chance you may get a campus job or better a paid internship that goes during the second year to off-set your costs. This is something you could not easily do in Kelley being located in the boonies.
P.S. love the reference to the Indian students and the challenge it creates with potential employment seeking.
It seemed an easy question as i read the first 2 lines. Then it got complicated. I think this is a somewhat old story with new actors- Opportunity vs. Safety. You will find safety in Kelley with higher rankings and lower cost vs. potential opportunity to get a better job at Jones...
A few things to consider:
1. There are new rankings coming in a week or so (US News has provided some sneak peak) and we may see Jones go up. The program has made a lot of strides to improve in the last 10 years https://gmatclub.com/forum/mba-rankings ... ml#p770991 - you will notice it went from #40 to #25. It did very well esp during the recession. Currently at #29 US news, while Kelley has been a solid 20-22 band in comparison and if the data you are referring to (job reports) is accurate, the rankings will likely ding Kelley for that. The two programs may be close-ish.
2. Oil and gas industry has been doing bad for the last 5 years with the oil price as low as it is. Chevron's stock is down 1% since 2013 - some may say it is a pretty bleak picture and others may suggest that by 2020 it has to recover and get back on track - you probably know better.
3. Most of your finaid in Kelley comes from GA. You have approached Jones about GA? There is a chance you may get a campus job or better a paid internship that goes during the second year to off-set your costs. This is something you could not easily do in Kelley being located in the boonies.
P.S. love the reference to the Indian students and the challenge it creates with potential employment seeking.
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13 Mar 2018, 11:26
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Hi mihir0710
Congrats for you admit.
Actually, I would support Kelley over Rice. I do not know how Rice would help you in your goal. It is not only the cost but it has better shot into some 2nd consulting companies such Accenture, Deloitte...etc. The consulting academy will assist you. I know that this year was tough. I have friend who secured an offer but in supply chain field.
Congrats for you admit.
Actually, I would support Kelley over Rice. I do not know how Rice would help you in your goal. It is not only the cost but it has better shot into some 2nd consulting companies such Accenture, Deloitte...etc. The consulting academy will assist you. I know that this year was tough. I have friend who secured an offer but in supply chain field.
13 Mar 2018, 20:17
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Thinking more about it, as an international student, your main asset is your prior work experience. Most lack a network in the US that they can rely on for job leads which is a double whammy for somebody who needs a work permit and lacks a network.
You have another issue, most oil and gas companies don’t seem to hire international students. I used to work for Chevron, and they had a policy against H1B. I had to work through a consulting umbrella company.
If you are planning to go back to Oil and Gas then Jones is a consideration but for consulting in general, Kelley would be more productive....
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You have another issue, most oil and gas companies don’t seem to hire international students. I used to work for Chevron, and they had a policy against H1B. I had to work through a consulting umbrella company.
If you are planning to go back to Oil and Gas then Jones is a consideration but for consulting in general, Kelley would be more productive....
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