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30 Apr 2018, 01:17
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Hi everyone,
I'm hoping you could help me with my decision. Got admitted to INSEAD and to Yale SOM with a $40k scholarship, I want to do either tech or consulting post MBA, and I'm married, my wife working in digital marketing.
My reasons for each school is that INSEAD is to play it safe, it's shorter, would be cheaper even after yale's scholarship, and after the 10-months we find a job in Europe and my wife can continue her career as well. I also think that in terms of the experience and the people, INSEAD is something you can't compare to other schools, and they have a strong network in Europe and in my country (Israel), where as Yale has a strong brand name but a nonexistent alumni network here.
In terms of Yale, I'm not sure a 2 year program is such a bad thing, as it would give me more time to prep, my wife could have a work permit (but I don't know how likely it is for her to find a decent marketing job in the US), but then with all the visa issues, it is likely we would have to leave the states a year after graduation and go back to Europe. So my wife's career and the fact we might anyways have to come back to Europe are a big factor here.
Last thing is the salary difference, I know in the US salaries are 20-30% higher than Europe, and I'm afraid that if I can't get into Amazon Microsoft etc I would have to go for a startup that pays not so well and I'll be stuck being unable to repay my loan, whereas if I can't land a great job in the US I could also come back to Europe (depends on brexit), or maybe if I can't get to Amazon from INSEAD I won't be able to reach it from Yale as well....
There you go, happy to hear your thoughts!
I'm hoping you could help me with my decision. Got admitted to INSEAD and to Yale SOM with a $40k scholarship, I want to do either tech or consulting post MBA, and I'm married, my wife working in digital marketing.
My reasons for each school is that INSEAD is to play it safe, it's shorter, would be cheaper even after yale's scholarship, and after the 10-months we find a job in Europe and my wife can continue her career as well. I also think that in terms of the experience and the people, INSEAD is something you can't compare to other schools, and they have a strong network in Europe and in my country (Israel), where as Yale has a strong brand name but a nonexistent alumni network here.
In terms of Yale, I'm not sure a 2 year program is such a bad thing, as it would give me more time to prep, my wife could have a work permit (but I don't know how likely it is for her to find a decent marketing job in the US), but then with all the visa issues, it is likely we would have to leave the states a year after graduation and go back to Europe. So my wife's career and the fact we might anyways have to come back to Europe are a big factor here.
Last thing is the salary difference, I know in the US salaries are 20-30% higher than Europe, and I'm afraid that if I can't get into Amazon Microsoft etc I would have to go for a startup that pays not so well and I'll be stuck being unable to repay my loan, whereas if I can't land a great job in the US I could also come back to Europe (depends on brexit), or maybe if I can't get to Amazon from INSEAD I won't be able to reach it from Yale as well....
There you go, happy to hear your thoughts!
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30 Apr 2018, 05:44
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I'd be happy to connect you to two my Italian classmates from SOM '18. Both interned and will be working in the US. I think their experience will be relevant for making this assessment. PM me if you're interested & I'll reach out for you.
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Same here, can connect you to several Israeli friends from my class at INSEAD, they are all over the place but I think that will give you a taste of what to expect from INSEAD in terms of geographical reach.
Feel that the US is a big unknown, and cannot comment on that. All things stayed equal, I can say that I got an VC offer in the US from INSEAD, so it is possible but you'll have to hassle.
For the 2-year, 1-year dilemma, I can only talk from experience, but I loved such a fast-paced, work hard play hard environment, in fact I miss it every day! I do agree with you that you should do some soul searching before starting the program, not to end up in consulting because it is the safest bet! Not going against consulting, if you want to do it it's a great industry, just saying that many end up there because they did not do some proper assessment of where to aim previously, and the recruitment cycle for consulting is one of the most straightforward.
For the last paragraph, I would say there are no "easier" office for tech companies, either you make the cut or you don't. If you don't get your dream job and are worried about the money, an alternative to startups would be to go corporate development programs or jobs in high paid locations that are seeking professionals (think Lux, Switzerland, Lichtenstein), and money won't be an issue. Fintech Startups are a good example, many have offices in these locations for obvious reasons, and pay higher than consulting.
Lastly, have you talked to INSEAD about your SOM scholarship? They might be interested to hear more about it
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All the best on your choice!
Feel that the US is a big unknown, and cannot comment on that. All things stayed equal, I can say that I got an VC offer in the US from INSEAD, so it is possible but you'll have to hassle.
For the 2-year, 1-year dilemma, I can only talk from experience, but I loved such a fast-paced, work hard play hard environment, in fact I miss it every day! I do agree with you that you should do some soul searching before starting the program, not to end up in consulting because it is the safest bet! Not going against consulting, if you want to do it it's a great industry, just saying that many end up there because they did not do some proper assessment of where to aim previously, and the recruitment cycle for consulting is one of the most straightforward.
For the last paragraph, I would say there are no "easier" office for tech companies, either you make the cut or you don't. If you don't get your dream job and are worried about the money, an alternative to startups would be to go corporate development programs or jobs in high paid locations that are seeking professionals (think Lux, Switzerland, Lichtenstein), and money won't be an issue. Fintech Startups are a good example, many have offices in these locations for obvious reasons, and pay higher than consulting.
Lastly, have you talked to INSEAD about your SOM scholarship? They might be interested to hear more about it
. All the best on your choice!
