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Joined: 12 Aug 2017
Last visit: 15 Apr 2020
Posts: 19
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Location: India
Schools: Fuqua '13 (S) Tepper '21 (D) Tuck '22
GMAT 1: 710 Q47 V40
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26 Mar 2020, 05:17
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Hi everyone,
I am an Indian female, Chartered Accountant, and with 7 years of experience in M&A transaction structuring (tax and regulatory) at a Big4. I have received an admit from Tuck (no scholarship) and await an admission decision from London Business School (expected this month-end).
My personal considerations are the following:
- Neutral to working in either USA or UK. Do no know any European Language
- My aspiration is to get into M&A Advisory for which I would like to explore the Investment Banking route and eventually make my way into Private Equity.
- I know and appreciate that neither schools are 'finance focussed' as a Wharton/ Booth/ CBS or Stern. But what I love about both schools and that's a very important personal consideration is that both have a very strong community focus and a helpful and collaborative culture. That's the kind of place I would like to do my MBA from.
- The program of both school's is fantastic in terms of internships, experiential learnings, etc
- With Tuck being STEM certified and London giving a 2 year visa extension, both schools are neutral in terms of residency and work permits in US and UK respectively.
- I do not plan to return to India, so brand value in Asia isn't a strong consideration, but I appreciate that certainly should be a consideration, even if it is valid for Plan Z.
Tuck Pros:
- Excellent curriculum - superb finance professors
- Every student adores the school and the alumni focus is a real thing. The Tuck alumni response rate is less than 48 hours and that is a huge plus.
- Lots of companies from North East US do come on campus. Amazing access to Boston and NYC
- The career services are great - a unanimous story by everyone I have connected with.
- And not a pro, but I can probably change course to reach my PE ambition by starting off with Consultancy (which is a strong advantage of Tuck) post my MBA and use the sector/ domain expertise to land a PE job.
Tuck Cons:
- Not a finance focus school. Although, a Tuck student gave me a very interesting observation that if 30 students from Tuck aim for finance jobs, at least 25 convert it. Which is a really good conversion %.
- Will need a lot of travel to NYC and Boston. (This is not a strong con, but certainly when compared to LBS)
LBS pros:
- It's USD 60k cheaper than Tuck (assuming no scholarship at both places).
- London advantage - a great city, and hopefully with several networking opportunities.
- LBS's flexible curriculum permits multiple internships. This can mean I can demonstrate a track record of working in IB and use that as a stepping stone for a full-time offer from the same/ another place.
- However slim, but LBS does give me chance to apply for PE jobs and probably that MAY (very BIG MAY here) work out. (An Indian got a job in a Tier 1 PE with no PE experience but simply because of his domain knowledge). Basically, a lot of thought needs to go into how to uniquely present your candidacy suited to the need of the job, but even if a 1% chance, it is worth noting.
LBS cons:
- Most students I have interacted with don't sound 100% confident about the school. Someone had some complaints on the professors, some felt the career services wasn't the best, may find it difficult to convert an internship into a job which sponsors the visa, etc. I don't know how unfounded or otherwise this apprehension about LBS is! And would love some insights....
- Not as strong a curriculum as Tuck. Strong curriculum should help develop some fundamental knowledge of Finance.
- London is a great city to settle into, but how probable is it to get a job in London?
- London does not have as many finance roles. There is a need to know a European language, some say.
- Probably the pro in Tuck of choosing an alternative path (Consulting -> PE) may not be as "easy" at LBS because the same concerns on sponsorship and companies as in banking jobs prevail in LBS.
Which one should I be choosing?
Any guidance will be very very helpful!
Thanks much!
I am an Indian female, Chartered Accountant, and with 7 years of experience in M&A transaction structuring (tax and regulatory) at a Big4. I have received an admit from Tuck (no scholarship) and await an admission decision from London Business School (expected this month-end).
My personal considerations are the following:
- Neutral to working in either USA or UK. Do no know any European Language
- My aspiration is to get into M&A Advisory for which I would like to explore the Investment Banking route and eventually make my way into Private Equity.
- I know and appreciate that neither schools are 'finance focussed' as a Wharton/ Booth/ CBS or Stern. But what I love about both schools and that's a very important personal consideration is that both have a very strong community focus and a helpful and collaborative culture. That's the kind of place I would like to do my MBA from.
- The program of both school's is fantastic in terms of internships, experiential learnings, etc
- With Tuck being STEM certified and London giving a 2 year visa extension, both schools are neutral in terms of residency and work permits in US and UK respectively.
- I do not plan to return to India, so brand value in Asia isn't a strong consideration, but I appreciate that certainly should be a consideration, even if it is valid for Plan Z.
Tuck Pros:
- Excellent curriculum - superb finance professors
- Every student adores the school and the alumni focus is a real thing. The Tuck alumni response rate is less than 48 hours and that is a huge plus.
- Lots of companies from North East US do come on campus. Amazing access to Boston and NYC
- The career services are great - a unanimous story by everyone I have connected with.
- And not a pro, but I can probably change course to reach my PE ambition by starting off with Consultancy (which is a strong advantage of Tuck) post my MBA and use the sector/ domain expertise to land a PE job.
Tuck Cons:
- Not a finance focus school. Although, a Tuck student gave me a very interesting observation that if 30 students from Tuck aim for finance jobs, at least 25 convert it. Which is a really good conversion %.
- Will need a lot of travel to NYC and Boston. (This is not a strong con, but certainly when compared to LBS)
LBS pros:
- It's USD 60k cheaper than Tuck (assuming no scholarship at both places).
- London advantage - a great city, and hopefully with several networking opportunities.
- LBS's flexible curriculum permits multiple internships. This can mean I can demonstrate a track record of working in IB and use that as a stepping stone for a full-time offer from the same/ another place.
- However slim, but LBS does give me chance to apply for PE jobs and probably that MAY (very BIG MAY here) work out. (An Indian got a job in a Tier 1 PE with no PE experience but simply because of his domain knowledge). Basically, a lot of thought needs to go into how to uniquely present your candidacy suited to the need of the job, but even if a 1% chance, it is worth noting.
LBS cons:
- Most students I have interacted with don't sound 100% confident about the school. Someone had some complaints on the professors, some felt the career services wasn't the best, may find it difficult to convert an internship into a job which sponsors the visa, etc. I don't know how unfounded or otherwise this apprehension about LBS is! And would love some insights....
- Not as strong a curriculum as Tuck. Strong curriculum should help develop some fundamental knowledge of Finance.
- London is a great city to settle into, but how probable is it to get a job in London?
- London does not have as many finance roles. There is a need to know a European language, some say.
- Probably the pro in Tuck of choosing an alternative path (Consulting -> PE) may not be as "easy" at LBS because the same concerns on sponsorship and companies as in banking jobs prevail in LBS.
Which one should I be choosing?
Any guidance will be very very helpful!
Thanks much!
26 Mar 2020, 05:43
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I voted for Tuck.
I think if you make a good effort to leverage the network, you’ll find opportunities. You’ll probably be better supported by the school as well. My experience talking to Tuckies suggests fellow students, alumni, and career services are very invested in your success.
I have read some bad reviews of LBS career services, but this might be hearsay.
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I think if you make a good effort to leverage the network, you’ll find opportunities. You’ll probably be better supported by the school as well. My experience talking to Tuckies suggests fellow students, alumni, and career services are very invested in your success.
I have read some bad reviews of LBS career services, but this might be hearsay.
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30 Mar 2020, 00:18
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Congratulations on your admits! Sorry for a late reply. I took the weekend off 
IB is a formidable industry/sector to get into. It is not as crazy of a focus as 10-15 years ago but it still requires grit and effort and networking. Is there actually much IB happening in London? (I simply don't know). I can imagine London has been in an uncertain situation for a number of years now and that's not conducive to hiring.
Tuck is solid in terms of the program, recruiting, and tight alum base. With all of that, Tuck is a consulting school (many US schools are these days) but it does place 15-20% into Financial Services (depends if you count roles - 15% or Industry - 20%). Looks like you have done quite a bit of research and put in your time. I think ideally you want to connect with the Finance club/group at Tuck/LBS and figure out how much help/recruiting they are seeing on campus and if having an IB goal is realistic and what do they think about it. I would be direct. No sense to beat around the bush but don't pressure them. I can of course see Tuckies being very proud of their program - that's how they are
I think it is good you have strong brands on your resume. You can use those to open the doors for you and provide you with internship/interview opportunities and likely would not need to leverage additional internships during the year.
P.S. I would figure out which country you want to live/work in the long term (there is a difference) and overlay that with the current student conversations and see which looks more attractive as a package? Also, do you have any support network in either continent? EU or North America? perhaps some distant family or friends? It helps to have someone who can lend a hand and be a safety net.
Good luck with your LBS decision - did you hear back?
IB is a formidable industry/sector to get into. It is not as crazy of a focus as 10-15 years ago but it still requires grit and effort and networking. Is there actually much IB happening in London? (I simply don't know). I can imagine London has been in an uncertain situation for a number of years now and that's not conducive to hiring.
Tuck is solid in terms of the program, recruiting, and tight alum base. With all of that, Tuck is a consulting school (many US schools are these days) but it does place 15-20% into Financial Services (depends if you count roles - 15% or Industry - 20%). Looks like you have done quite a bit of research and put in your time. I think ideally you want to connect with the Finance club/group at Tuck/LBS and figure out how much help/recruiting they are seeing on campus and if having an IB goal is realistic and what do they think about it. I would be direct. No sense to beat around the bush but don't pressure them. I can of course see Tuckies being very proud of their program - that's how they are
I think it is good you have strong brands on your resume. You can use those to open the doors for you and provide you with internship/interview opportunities and likely would not need to leverage additional internships during the year.
P.S. I would figure out which country you want to live/work in the long term (there is a difference) and overlay that with the current student conversations and see which looks more attractive as a package? Also, do you have any support network in either continent? EU or North America? perhaps some distant family or friends? It helps to have someone who can lend a hand and be a safety net.
Good luck with your LBS decision - did you hear back?
