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Schools: CBS '22 (A) Booth '22 (D) Wharton '22 (A)
GPA: 3.9
14 Apr 2020, 21:06
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Background
Undergrad: Top 20 school (non-Ivy)
Hometown: PNW
Location: Los Angeles
Pre-MBA: IB -> Broadcast Television (e.g. Comcast, WarnerMedia, Disney)
Post-MBA Plan: Build career in media, potentially launch a new business concept in space (but not 100% sure)
Wharton
Pros
- Brand (slightly better, may be more important if ultimately decide to leave media. wonder whether the difference matters long-term)
- Fit (more academically oriented, ambition quotient through the roof at Wharton, many mutual friends in program)
- Community (better opportunity to form real bonds rather than competing for classmates' time in NYC)
- Recruiting (marginal, but have been told some high profile opportunities go through H/S/W that do not reach CBS... also benefit to some degree with brand boost)
Cons
- Location (Phili is fine, but not where it's at for media... not going to be building my network bopping around the city)
- Interest specific network (less alumni in media to call upon for help)
Columbia
Pros
- Alumni (strong media presence)
- Multiple internships (flexibility to do a part-time internship while in school)
- Location (wow, the campus, have heard awesome things about New York too, many friends in the city that would be cool to reunite with)
Cons
- Work / Life / School Balance (with part-time intern opps, friends in the city, etc., many distractions to get the most out of MBA network / social experience)
- Community (understand the feeling isn't commuter vibe, but significant portion of class not moving, already established in NYC)
- Brand (may be edged out on brand factor v. H/S/W competition... hard to hear from people at CBS that they would have gone to Wharton if admitted... of course each decision is personal though)
- Facilities (my inner city public high school was nicer than what I saw of the CBS building)
No MBA
Pros
- Money (two year earning trajectory at risk given covid, but savings on tuition are real)
- Experience (meaningful work experience - especially managing change during these times will be of value - people in media respect years in the business)
- Stress Avoidance (no benchmarking oneself against classmates, reconsideration of media interest for traditional paths reopened by MBA, no leaving behind a life that I've grown comfortable in)
***don't need an mba in media
Cons
- Executive level promotions (ten to fifteen years from now when and if up for SVP -> EVP promotion, may get passed on for the competition with MBA... but ten to fifteen years from now will people care about the MBA like they do today?)
- Missed opportunity (would enhance pedigree / brand as well as meet classmates and professors who may change my personal and professional life)
- Wasted some time and money applying (but honestly, would recommend spending the ~150 hours and $1K applying to b-school to anyone... an incredibly valuable professional development reflection in itself)
Many thanks for any additional guidance or advice you may be willing to offer. I feel incredibly fortunate to have these opportunities (and the many that have preceded these options)... on one hand, the prospect of passing seems foolish, but I also recognize that I, not the degree, will drive the success of my career
Undergrad: Top 20 school (non-Ivy)
Hometown: PNW
Location: Los Angeles
Pre-MBA: IB -> Broadcast Television (e.g. Comcast, WarnerMedia, Disney)
Post-MBA Plan: Build career in media, potentially launch a new business concept in space (but not 100% sure)
Wharton
Pros
- Brand (slightly better, may be more important if ultimately decide to leave media. wonder whether the difference matters long-term)
- Fit (more academically oriented, ambition quotient through the roof at Wharton, many mutual friends in program)
- Community (better opportunity to form real bonds rather than competing for classmates' time in NYC)
- Recruiting (marginal, but have been told some high profile opportunities go through H/S/W that do not reach CBS... also benefit to some degree with brand boost)
Cons
- Location (Phili is fine, but not where it's at for media... not going to be building my network bopping around the city)
- Interest specific network (less alumni in media to call upon for help)
Columbia
Pros
- Alumni (strong media presence)
- Multiple internships (flexibility to do a part-time internship while in school)
- Location (wow, the campus, have heard awesome things about New York too, many friends in the city that would be cool to reunite with)
Cons
- Work / Life / School Balance (with part-time intern opps, friends in the city, etc., many distractions to get the most out of MBA network / social experience)
- Community (understand the feeling isn't commuter vibe, but significant portion of class not moving, already established in NYC)
- Brand (may be edged out on brand factor v. H/S/W competition... hard to hear from people at CBS that they would have gone to Wharton if admitted... of course each decision is personal though)
- Facilities (my inner city public high school was nicer than what I saw of the CBS building)
No MBA
Pros
- Money (two year earning trajectory at risk given covid, but savings on tuition are real)
- Experience (meaningful work experience - especially managing change during these times will be of value - people in media respect years in the business)
- Stress Avoidance (no benchmarking oneself against classmates, reconsideration of media interest for traditional paths reopened by MBA, no leaving behind a life that I've grown comfortable in)
***don't need an mba in media
Cons
- Executive level promotions (ten to fifteen years from now when and if up for SVP -> EVP promotion, may get passed on for the competition with MBA... but ten to fifteen years from now will people care about the MBA like they do today?)
- Missed opportunity (would enhance pedigree / brand as well as meet classmates and professors who may change my personal and professional life)
- Wasted some time and money applying (but honestly, would recommend spending the ~150 hours and $1K applying to b-school to anyone... an incredibly valuable professional development reflection in itself)
Many thanks for any additional guidance or advice you may be willing to offer. I feel incredibly fortunate to have these opportunities (and the many that have preceded these options)... on one hand, the prospect of passing seems foolish, but I also recognize that I, not the degree, will drive the success of my career
14 Apr 2020, 21:23
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Congrats on your admits!
I was just reading an article in Wall Street Journal which I’m sure you’ve seen as well from last week about all TV and media productions coming to a halt except for animation and screen writing. This becomes a little scary but also potentially creates opportunities when things pop back up. Whenever that may be.
Obviously, most of us are a little crazy about MBA and not attending one is not an option people usually entertain
at least not after getting into such amazing schools and putting in all that work.
While Wharton commands a lot more attention in general, Columbia and New York, is really were all media and all business of TV are located. Everyone is there - Netflix, HBO, all ad sales agencies, etc etc. Again Wharton is awesome but Columbia seems a pretty clear choice in this case. Since most jobs in media and entertainment or procured through networking and connections, it seems you would be very well-positioned for that and that will be a strengths rather than a weakness to be close to your network.
Again Wharton is awesome but Columbia seems pretty clear choice in this case. Since most jobs in media and entertainment are procured through networking and connections, it seems you would be very well positioned for that and that would be a strength rather than a weakness to be close to your network.
In terms of getting an MBA or not, I’m sure you have thought about it before applying in while applying but I guess the question still persists. You have definitely put enough work into the process and were serious enough about it but going through the program is even more work than the application was. Mini think that studying for the GMAT and doing resume editing and application submissions is behind them and they will be entering this utopia little mold them into amazing new leaders. There is some truth to that and you will be changed and molded but most of that will be achieved through sweat, stress, and hard work. The only way to expand your limits is to push them and that’s what business school does, it overload you to the point you did not think was possible and after you survive the first semester/quarter/year and walk away alive, you suddenly believe that anything is possible.
During these hard times, it’s important to have a goal and to have some thing that justifies that hard work and depriving yourself of income and living on a student budget. It will feel fairly hollow and will take a dent in your motivation and entire experience if you have no guiding light in front of you. I would strongly recommend deciding if you need this degree now. If you’re going to use it 10 to 15 years from now, I would get the executive MBA 10 or 15 years from now, at the time when you need it. It will not be the same experience as the full-time program but it will be the right tool at the right time.
Good luck with your decision!
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I was just reading an article in Wall Street Journal which I’m sure you’ve seen as well from last week about all TV and media productions coming to a halt except for animation and screen writing. This becomes a little scary but also potentially creates opportunities when things pop back up. Whenever that may be.
Obviously, most of us are a little crazy about MBA and not attending one is not an option people usually entertain
at least not after getting into such amazing schools and putting in all that work.While Wharton commands a lot more attention in general, Columbia and New York, is really were all media and all business of TV are located. Everyone is there - Netflix, HBO, all ad sales agencies, etc etc. Again Wharton is awesome but Columbia seems a pretty clear choice in this case. Since most jobs in media and entertainment or procured through networking and connections, it seems you would be very well-positioned for that and that will be a strengths rather than a weakness to be close to your network.
Again Wharton is awesome but Columbia seems pretty clear choice in this case. Since most jobs in media and entertainment are procured through networking and connections, it seems you would be very well positioned for that and that would be a strength rather than a weakness to be close to your network.
In terms of getting an MBA or not, I’m sure you have thought about it before applying in while applying but I guess the question still persists. You have definitely put enough work into the process and were serious enough about it
but going through the program is even more work than the application was. Mini think that studying for the GMAT and doing resume editing and application submissions is behind them and they will be entering this utopia little mold them into amazing new leaders. There is some truth to that and you will be changed and molded but most of that will be achieved through sweat, stress, and hard work. The only way to expand your limits is to push them and that’s what business school does, it overload you to the point you did not think was possible and after you survive the first semester/quarter/year and walk away alive, you suddenly believe that anything is possible. During these hard times, it’s important to have a goal and to have some thing that justifies that hard work and depriving yourself of income and living on a student budget. It will feel fairly hollow and will take a dent in your motivation and entire experience if you have no guiding light in front of you. I would strongly recommend deciding if you need this degree now. If you’re going to use it 10 to 15 years from now, I would get the executive MBA 10 or 15 years from now, at the time when you need it. It will not be the same experience as the full-time program but it will be the right tool at the right time.
Good luck with your decision!
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