Calling All Baruch College Zicklin Spring 2009 Admin

Question

If you applied or accepted to any Baruch College MS or MBA admission for Spring 2009, post your stats and admission results here!

Thanks!

Example of My GF's profile who's applying:
Applied to MS in Accounting - 9/30/2008
Accepted: 10/28/2008
Undergrad GPA: 3.6 (Amherst College)
GMAT: 650
Work Exp: 2.5 years

trying to gather info for her since very little info on this program is available online

unhedged · Answer

have you been to quantnet by any chance? They are about Baruch MS program.

nink · Answer

I work in a Big 4 accounting firm and Baruch is like a feeder school for Big 4 firms.

Many of our new recruits this year came from their MBA/MS Accounting programs. They usually have GPA around 3.1 to 3.4. Their GMAT scores range from 520 to 650.

When i interviewed them on campus, we cared about their passion for accounting as a career and also about their communication skills (also accounting grades)...

agold · Answer

Passion for accounting? :roll:

nink · Answer

Kid you not...

We had few recruits over the years w stellar undergrad GPA and etc)....then they started coming to work around 12pm, 1pm and sometimes didn't even bother to show up. Before our HR had chance to give them warning, they just decided to quit....

People at Big 4 constantly work 50 to 65 hours a week (and this is done while traveling to client sites) and we don't get bonus like Wall st (except fot PWC...they give bonuses...lucky bastards)

So people do need to like accounting....or they won't last long.

unhedged · Answer

Some people do actually have a passion for accounting. Some actually think audit is an essential part of one's business education.

However, many of the people I've met at my Big 4 do what they do because they became a specialist in it, not necessarily because they love it. Either that, or they leave when they become disillusioned when nothing they were promised comes to fruition.

agold · Answer

Hah, can't they just look at their partners and realize that's not the life they want to lead? That's what I did and I left within 1 year.

You have the same divorce rate as investment banking managing directors with 1/4 the pay.

unhedged · Answer

From what I hear, it depends on the Big 4 you are in. Some have significantly few partners (and significantly more pay relative to others) and you only hear mythical stories about their lives and paychecks. Probably smarter to shroud the promised land in mystery. :twisted:

nink · Answer

Indeed they are different. Funniest comments on Big 4 is on https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... +%26+young

GmatNY86 · Answer

Wow, I didn't think I'd see a Baruch thread on GMATClub.

I'm actually a Baruch undergrad. I was hoping for a step up from Zicklin. I think that my quantitative portion of the application pretty easily beats their averages. I have a 690 on the GMAT and 3.75 GPA with a major in marketing. That's especially true if what I heard about them giving "discounts" (meaning their requirements are more lax) to alums is right. I want to go into finance, I know that Baruch's strength is in accounting, but Finance is up there.

Should I not completely ignore my alma mater? They do have the "New York advantage". Say I went to a more highly rated school that's not in NY, I might still have less access to recruiters than Baruch. Any help will be truly appreciated.

TimeSquareDesi · Answer

the 'alum advantage' you mention is true for all CUNY schools. For example, if you graduate with a BS/BA from any cuny school, that school would definitely give you special treatment when assessing your application. For this reason alone, I think it's a good idea to apply to your alma mater.

Secondly, about the new york advantage - that depends on what you want to do in your future. if you see yourself moving out of ny, then maybe getting a degree at a more 'well known' school would be to your advantage. if you prefer staying in nyc, you cannot go wrong with baruch. excellent job placement, excelent value, excellent location/atmosphere, stellar extra-curric programs.

i hope that helps any. I just graduated from Hunter with Honors and will be applying to baruchs APT MBA program (CIS/Econ dual major) for fall 2010. im taking the gmat in feb. wish me luck! :twisted:

GmatNY86 · Answer

Thanks for the tip. So is there no reason to try to get into Stern, for example, if I plan on staying in NY? I have to be honest part of the reason why I want to get into at least Stern is to prove to myself that I can. In other words it's a personal thing, not necessarily a practical thing. A cynic might also call it an ego thing.

Good luck on the GMAT! It's a huge pain, but when it's over, it feels great.

TimeSquareDesi · Answer

There is definitely an advantage going to NYU/Stern regardless if you stay local or move out of the state. The point of contention is, for some folks, is it worth it...? Zicklin is well known and many companies I know hire zicklin grads. having NYU on your resume will also certainly open up doors too, but a lot of people wonder if the 100k investment would reap a lot more rewards than the 20-25k investment at baruch since much of one's progress depends on personal drive/ambition/a ton of other factors. In fact, if you dig around a bit, there are some profs that teach at both NYU and Baruch - the same classes - at both schools :D

You can't really put a formula to this question and the problem varies per school too. as for applying to satisfy your ego: go for it! :twisted:

if you have the time required and the $ required to apply to a school you may not even go to if accepted, it's still worth it to me, IMO. like you said - you can prove that you are that caliber of a student and is self-satisfying in and of it's own.

i went to an info session/campus tour of baruch and i love it! :D

if you have the time required and the $ required to apply to a school you may not even go to if accepted, it's still worth it to me, IMO. like you said - you can prove that you are that caliber of a student and is self-satisfying in and of it's own. i went to an info session/campus tour of baruch and i love it! :D

GmatNY86 · Answer

Thanks for the help. I really don't have that much money. That's a problem. However, you only live once, right? Why not go for it?

TimeSquareDesi · Answer

Definitely put your best foot forward and prove to yourself what you can achieve. :D

on another note, I want to thank the OP, bearsterner, for starting this thread. im opening another thread right now for Fall 2010 Baruch applicants such as myself.

GmatNY86 · Answer

Thanks. I'd also like to thank the OP. I never thought I'd see a Baruch thread. Unfortunately after attending the Chicago Booth admissions reception yesterday, I'm starting to wonder if Baruch is all I can do. I feel like you need to be exceptional to get into even a school like Stern (not to even mention Booth), and at least at this point, outside of my very good GPA (3.75) and pretty good GMAT (690), I have not much to offer. The alum from Booth, made me realize that I don't measure up. Probably same with Stern.

TimeSquareDesi · Answer

^ Never ever discount yourself - that's what admission comittees are for :D

I had a friend that felt the same way when he applied to Stern (and got in) around 2005. Everyone thinks of business schools as having very strict and uptight admissions policies which, is true to some extent, but it's not always the case. My friend that went to Stern said he was shocked to learn the backgrounds of some of his classmates - some were straight out of undergrad with no professional work experience, some were military men - he even had an actor in his class that never took a quant/business course in his life!

Your gpa and gmat are pretty good to get into a lot of schools. If you are missing work experience, that's not an issue because all that will come in time. Your gpa and gmat prove your ability and that's something that many schools look highly at above work experience/extra currics, etc. You're in a good position to apply to many schools, IMO.

The point I'm trying to make is that everyone has a good chance - you simply have to convince adcoms (via your application) why you deserve a seat there. Take your experience/jobs/etc and put them onto paper in a way that adcoms will be unable to deny your app!

GmatNY86 · Answer

Thanks. However, I do think that being in the military translates excellently into b-school. I think that the most stress that a CEO of a Fortune 500 company or an Investment bank will face pales in comparison to being shot at, lol. Also there's a lot of leadership involved. There are definitely very transferable skills. I don't think there's a coincidence that many business terms come from the military. The word strategy for example. But thanks, also, all is not lost. I still have time to improve my resume and not have to only rely on marketing tricks.

bb · Answer

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