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Hello guys,
So I've been looking forward to post a nice debrief but haven't achieved my goal yet. :p
Anyway, I've been following GmatClub for a while and trying to use some of the recommendations here to my case. So, a small summary of my situation: I started studying at the beginning of February, with only the Manhattan books. Didn't read all, but focused on weak points (like Geometry) and the great books (like SC). My first GMAT attempt was in late April with a 570 (Q37/V31), close to my average at the mocks, but I did hope at least a 600 then. I knew I wasn't scoring really good, but if I didn't go for the test, I wouldn't lose the "GMAT fear" I always had (it still freaks me out, though).
No doubt about retaking, and although I wanted to do it after 1 or 2 months, many things took me out of the way. I regained my confidence and willingness to continue the process - I really want to go to the MBA next year - and restarted studying, but only months after the first attempt. My real dedication was for a month (prior to the test), and I focused on improving Quant. I was scoring around 40-42 already (even on first attempt. Q37 was a bit of a shock for me), so if I could work hard in improving it, I thoughy I could reach Q47 (good enough for me). My second attempt was today and I got 640 (70 points improve in one month dedicated study - while still working and so on) and I got more pleased, but of course I want to get as close as possible to 700 (or more). Now I have Q42 and V35, which satisfy me on the Verbal part already, but I’m stuck at Q at focuslow 40’s.
I plan to retake (last attempt) in December, because I will send my applications in January/February (for Sept19 or Jan/20 intakes). I have been preparing mostly by self studying (I tried a month of Empowergmat, but although it’s quite good, I decided to focus on doing more OG exercises and brushing up concepts I was still lacking), but now I will now get a tutor, mostly for the Math part (I think I can keep improving Verbal on my own, as I didn’t focus much this and got 4 points already).
What else can be done or what am I getting wrong that my Quant scores do not improve? I’m pretty sure that in terms of concept, I am quite ok. Today at the test I felt some of the questions were quite easy to solve, some medium and the quite hard ones, I would let go more easily than before (with an exception to one or two that I would still try to solve and waste some time). I finished on time, with 2 or 3 minutes to solve the last question.
My mocks for this attempt were all, but one, bellow 640. My highest Q till today (1st and 2nd attempt) is 45 and I think I was pausing the exam during this attempt. I have error logs and I try solving wrong questions later on. Definitely something is not sticking or my "educated guesses" are not so educated hehe.
Well, would love to hear some suggestions. And hopefully I will be back with my targeted score by late December!
So I've been looking forward to post a nice debrief but haven't achieved my goal yet. :p
Anyway, I've been following GmatClub for a while and trying to use some of the recommendations here to my case. So, a small summary of my situation: I started studying at the beginning of February, with only the Manhattan books. Didn't read all, but focused on weak points (like Geometry) and the great books (like SC). My first GMAT attempt was in late April with a 570 (Q37/V31), close to my average at the mocks, but I did hope at least a 600 then. I knew I wasn't scoring really good, but if I didn't go for the test, I wouldn't lose the "GMAT fear" I always had (it still freaks me out, though).
No doubt about retaking, and although I wanted to do it after 1 or 2 months, many things took me out of the way. I regained my confidence and willingness to continue the process - I really want to go to the MBA next year - and restarted studying, but only months after the first attempt. My real dedication was for a month (prior to the test), and I focused on improving Quant. I was scoring around 40-42 already (even on first attempt. Q37 was a bit of a shock for me), so if I could work hard in improving it, I thoughy I could reach Q47 (good enough for me). My second attempt was today and I got 640 (70 points improve in one month dedicated study - while still working and so on) and I got more pleased, but of course I want to get as close as possible to 700 (or more). Now I have Q42 and V35, which satisfy me on the Verbal part already, but I’m stuck at Q at focuslow 40’s.
I plan to retake (last attempt) in December, because I will send my applications in January/February (for Sept19 or Jan/20 intakes). I have been preparing mostly by self studying (I tried a month of Empowergmat, but although it’s quite good, I decided to focus on doing more OG exercises and brushing up concepts I was still lacking), but now I will now get a tutor, mostly for the Math part (I think I can keep improving Verbal on my own, as I didn’t focus much this and got 4 points already).
What else can be done or what am I getting wrong that my Quant scores do not improve? I’m pretty sure that in terms of concept, I am quite ok. Today at the test I felt some of the questions were quite easy to solve, some medium and the quite hard ones, I would let go more easily than before (with an exception to one or two that I would still try to solve and waste some time). I finished on time, with 2 or 3 minutes to solve the last question.
My mocks for this attempt were all, but one, bellow 640. My highest Q till today (1st and 2nd attempt) is 45 and I think I was pausing the exam during this attempt. I have error logs and I try solving wrong questions later on. Definitely something is not sticking or my "educated guesses" are not so educated hehe.
Well, would love to hear some suggestions. And hopefully I will be back with my targeted score by late December!
24 Oct 2018, 23:00
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Hi njesus,
To start, raising a 570 to a 640 is a noteworthy achievement - you improved in both the Quant and Verbal sections and you still have the opportunity to pick up significant points in both sections. Your studies over the last 6 months are a bit unclear though, so I'm hoping that you can provide a bit more information on how you studied.
1) Were you studying a consistent number of hours each week (and if so, then how many)? Did you take any 'time off' from your studies?
2) What study materials were you focusing on using during each of those months?
3) What 'brands' of practice CATs have you used so far (including the ones you took before your 1st GMAT)?
4) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?
You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn't provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
To start, raising a 570 to a 640 is a noteworthy achievement - you improved in both the Quant and Verbal sections and you still have the opportunity to pick up significant points in both sections. Your studies over the last 6 months are a bit unclear though, so I'm hoping that you can provide a bit more information on how you studied.
1) Were you studying a consistent number of hours each week (and if so, then how many)? Did you take any 'time off' from your studies?
2) What study materials were you focusing on using during each of those months?
3) What 'brands' of practice CATs have you used so far (including the ones you took before your 1st GMAT)?
4) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?
You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn't provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
25 Oct 2018, 03:57
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Hi njesus,
This looks as if you just typed my debrief...!
I am in the exact same boat here.
Started my prep in March, along with work.
Gave my first attempt around 20th June and scored a 560, second attempt around 30th July and scored a 630.
The only difference being, that I was able to improve my Quant from 38 in 1st attempt to 49 in 2nd, while my verbal dropped from 28 to 27.
I am also aiming to cross the 700 mark in this attempt - I have taken some time in between to procrastinate. I started my prep again in Oct, from scratch this time in Verbal. I am taking the help of eGmat's Verbal Live Course and I hope it helps me this time around.
Coming to the main point, since I was able to improve my Quant by 11 points in about a month, I think I can help you here with my strategy for Quant :
1. I first started with revising all concepts (I had my cheat codes that I made while studying quant in the initial days) when I made my mind to give a second attempt.
2. I realized that I had a good grasp on the concepts, but I was missing out on a few tricks. For ex., not considering -ve values when the question said "If x is an integer".
I came across this brilliant article by MathRevolution on gmatclub named "The Ultimate Q51 guide [Expert Level]". Apologies as I am not able to post the link here.
This article has the common tricks and traps with examples. MUST READ !
3. Point 2, I realized, we can only practice and learn. There is no shortcut. So I purchased the Question Bank on the mba site. I would attempt 30 questions everyday in a timed manner and make a note of all such mistake and traps. The next day I would read that list of silly mistakes before the next round.
4. After I was confident, based on the improvement in my performance for over 10-12 days (in the question bank provided on mba site only), I used the GMATCLUB tests. They have about 24 CAT's.
When I started, I scored a 40 - a huge shocker and a hit to my confidence, as my accuracy at this time on mba question bank was approx 85%-92%.
But I understood that the questions in GMATCLUB CAT's are tougher than the usual ones, so I kept on giving those CAT's.
5. I followed the same cycle - noting down the mistakes and traps , reading them again the next day and so on for the last 15 days before my second attempt at GMAT - this time around on the GMATCLUB CAT's.
But there was one more insight from the GMATCLUB tests - the different ways of attacking the same question provided in the solutions. This is a MUST if you are trying to push your score to 49+.
This made Overlapping Sets, my weakness at the beginning, my strength by the end of the practice.
I didn't do anything for those last 15 days except this daily routine of solving a CAT and noting down the traps,trends and ALTERNATIVE WAYS (can't emphasis more on that).
I hope this helps you in your prep too. I am following the same route this time around too, since my focus now is only on Verbal.
Might be you could share some insights there.
All the best with your prep !
This looks as if you just typed my debrief...!
I am in the exact same boat here.
Started my prep in March, along with work.
Gave my first attempt around 20th June and scored a 560, second attempt around 30th July and scored a 630.
The only difference being, that I was able to improve my Quant from 38 in 1st attempt to 49 in 2nd, while my verbal dropped from 28 to 27.
I am also aiming to cross the 700 mark in this attempt - I have taken some time in between to procrastinate. I started my prep again in Oct, from scratch this time in Verbal. I am taking the help of eGmat's Verbal Live Course and I hope it helps me this time around.
Coming to the main point, since I was able to improve my Quant by 11 points in about a month, I think I can help you here with my strategy for Quant :
1. I first started with revising all concepts (I had my cheat codes that I made while studying quant in the initial days) when I made my mind to give a second attempt.
2. I realized that I had a good grasp on the concepts, but I was missing out on a few tricks. For ex., not considering -ve values when the question said "If x is an integer".
I came across this brilliant article by MathRevolution on gmatclub named "The Ultimate Q51 guide [Expert Level]". Apologies as I am not able to post the link here.
This article has the common tricks and traps with examples. MUST READ !
3. Point 2, I realized, we can only practice and learn. There is no shortcut. So I purchased the Question Bank on the mba site. I would attempt 30 questions everyday in a timed manner and make a note of all such mistake and traps. The next day I would read that list of silly mistakes before the next round.
4. After I was confident, based on the improvement in my performance for over 10-12 days (in the question bank provided on mba site only), I used the GMATCLUB tests. They have about 24 CAT's.
When I started, I scored a 40 - a huge shocker and a hit to my confidence, as my accuracy at this time on mba question bank was approx 85%-92%.
But I understood that the questions in GMATCLUB CAT's are tougher than the usual ones, so I kept on giving those CAT's.
5. I followed the same cycle - noting down the mistakes and traps , reading them again the next day and so on for the last 15 days before my second attempt at GMAT - this time around on the GMATCLUB CAT's.
But there was one more insight from the GMATCLUB tests - the different ways of attacking the same question provided in the solutions. This is a MUST if you are trying to push your score to 49+.
This made Overlapping Sets, my weakness at the beginning, my strength by the end of the practice.
I didn't do anything for those last 15 days except this daily routine of solving a CAT and noting down the traps,trends and ALTERNATIVE WAYS (can't emphasis more on that).
I hope this helps you in your prep too. I am following the same route this time around too, since my focus now is only on Verbal.
Might be you could share some insights there.
All the best with your prep !
