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If there is a comma and a conjunction then a subject is required or remove the comma (Manhattan Guide 8 SC - Chapter 10 para 2). Option D doesn't do either of them, B does i.e. add a subject.

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I have the same doubt. If there is a comma and a and I read somewhere that subject needs to be present.
Hi AkashNGU and iamdivs,

This comes down to a difference in approach. Some people believe in following a strict set of "comma rules". That's fine, as they are entitled to their opinions. What's important for us (as test takers) is whether the GMAT has taken a position on some of the issues that we're looking at in this thread. It hasn't, and that makes applying these "rules" incredibly risky for test takers aiming for high scores. And although I cannot, without further information, address your question about the Manhattan book directly, I am very sure that at least some of their instructors give their students the same advice that I am giving you.

Try to avoid taking calls on the basis of comma usage, unless you're looking at something like a comma splice.
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Makes sense since I have seen comma being used a little more loosely in few questions on the forum. Thanks for the quick reply!
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If there is a comma and a conjunction then a subject is required or remove the comma (Manhattan Guide 8 SC - Chapter 10 para 2). Option D doesn't do either of them, B does i.e. add a subject.

Please comment and help.
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I have the same doubt. If there is a comma and a and I read somewhere that subject needs to be present.
Hi AkashNGU and iamdivs,

This comes down to a difference in approach. Some people believe in following a strict set of "comma rules". That's fine, as they are entitled to their opinions. What's important for us (as test takers) is whether the GMAT has taken a position on some of the issues that we're looking at in this thread. It hasn't, and that makes applying these "rules" incredibly risky for test takers aiming for high scores. And although I cannot, without further information, address your question about the Manhattan book directly, I am very sure that at least some of their instructors give their students the same advice that I am giving you.

Try to avoid taking calls on the basis of comma usage, unless you're looking at something like a comma splice.
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Ohkay, understood.

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Virginia Woolf was keenly aware that she had not enjoyed the advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education, and was envious of her male contemporaries who did.

A) and was envious of her male contemporaries who did
B) and she was envious of her male contemporaries who did
C) she was envious of her male contemporaries who had
D) and was envious of her male contemporaries who had
E) having envied her male contemporaries who did
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Hi generis as per your post on ellipses and substitution here https://gmatclub.com/forum/inflation-ha ... s#p2503607

In order to be omitted, the exact words first have to be present someplace in the sentence.

Per this how is D correct here? Since "completed their education" is not available for ommission in D and hence, cant be implied.
whereas with option A did can be used to for substitution since the words do, does, and did can stand-in or substitute for verb phrases.

would appreciate your response, thanks!!
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Virginia Woolf was keenly aware that she had not enjoyed the advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education, and was envious of her male contemporaries who did.

A) and was envious of her male contemporaries who did
B) and she was envious of her male contemporaries who did
C) she was envious of her male contemporaries who had
D) and was envious of her male contemporaries who had
E) having envied her male contemporaries who did
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I have question regarding A and D

What is the difference in meaning of A with respect to D?

Are the following interpretation correct

A - "and was envious of her male contemporaries who did enjoy advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education.

D - "and was envious of her male contemporaries who had enjoyed the advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education "

Please suggest how to eliminate A.

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Are the following interpretation correct

A - "and was envious of her male contemporaries who did enjoy advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education.

D - "and was envious of her male contemporaries who had enjoyed the advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education "
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Yes correct. So basically, A uses simple past tense ("did enjoy") while D uses past perfect tense ("had enjoyed").

Past perfect is used to establish a "chronological sequence" (time-sequence) between two events, both of which happened in the past.

In this sentence, Virginia Woolf was envious of her male contemporaries. Her male contemporaries, obviously at some time before the time of reference, had been in Oxford or Cambridge .

Hence, the usage of Past perfect is justified.

You can watch our video on Past Perfect Tense here.

p.s. Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses Past perfect tense, its application and examples in significant detail. If you or someone is interested, PM me your email-id; I can mail the corresponding section.
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Virginia Woolf was keenly aware that she had not enjoyed the advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education, and was envious of her male contemporaries who did.

A) and was envious of her male contemporaries who did
B) and she was envious of her male contemporaries who did
C) she was envious of her male contemporaries who had
D) and was envious of her male contemporaries who had
E) having envied her male contemporaries who did

Hello Experts

I have question regarding A and D

What is the difference in meaning of A with respect to D?

Are the following interpretation correct

A - "and was envious of her male contemporaries who did enjoy advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education.

D - "and was envious of her male contemporaries who had enjoyed the advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education "

Please suggest how to eliminate A.

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Hello arvind910619,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, Option A incorrectly uses the simple past tense verb "did (enjoy)" to refer to the earliest of multiple actions that took place in the past - Woolf's male contemporaries enjoying the advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education, Woolf being aware that she had not enjoyed the same, and Woolf being envious of her male contemporaries; remember, if a sentence contains multiple past actions, the past perfect tense (marked by the use of the helping verb “had”) is used to refer to all but the most recent action; the simple past tense is used to refer to the most recent action.

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Are the following interpretation correct

A - "and was envious of her male contemporaries who did enjoy advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education.

D - "and was envious of her male contemporaries who had enjoyed the advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education "
Yes correct. So basically, A uses simple past tense ("did enjoy") while D uses past perfect tense ("had enjoyed").

Past perfect is used to establish a "chronological sequence" (time-sequence) between two events, both of which happened in the past.

In this sentence, Virginia Woolf was envious of her male contemporaries. Her male contemporaries, obviously at some time before the time of reference, had been in Oxford or Cambridge .

Hence, the usage of Past perfect is justified.

You can watch our video on Past Perfect Tense here.

p.s. Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses Past perfect tense, its application and examples in significant detail. If you or someone is interested, PM me your email-id; I can mail the corresponding section.
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Thanks now it makes perfect sense to eliminate A
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Hello Team,

Could you plz help in letting me know, what is the issue with option 'a'?
Why it is not a correct answer?
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Virginia Woolf was keenly aware that she had not enjoyed the advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education, and was envious of her male contemporaries who did.

A) and was envious of her male contemporaries who did

Wrong

D) and was envious of her male contemporaries who had

Correct

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Hello Team,

Could you plz help in letting me know, what is the issue with option 'a'?
Why it is not a correct answer?
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Hello VKat,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, as we have written in a previous comment, Option A incorrectly uses the simple past tense verb "did (enjoy)" to refer to the earliest of multiple actions that took place in the past - Woolf's male contemporaries enjoying the advantages of an Oxford or Cambridge education, Woolf being aware that she had not enjoyed the same, and Woolf being envious of her male contemporaries; remember, if a sentence contains multiple past actions, the past perfect tense (marked by the use of the helping verb “had”) is used to refer to all but the most recent action; the simple past tense is used to refer to the most recent action.

We hope this helps.
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