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What is the area of triangle PQR? (1) angle PQR is 120 degrees

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What is the area of triangle PQR?

(1) angle PQR is 120 degrees

(2) PQ=5 units and PR=10 units
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area of triangle ab sin(theta) , where a and b are the sides of the triangle and theta is the angle between them. so my answer is 25
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What is the area of triangle PQR?

(1) angle PQR is 120 degrees - dimensions of the triangle are given - not sufficient

(2) PQ=5 units and PR=10 units. Side QR can be any value from 5< QR< 15 - not sufficient.

(1) + (2) SSA condition. As angle PQR is obtuse, QR can take only 1 value. Therefore, we can calculate the area of the square. Sufficient
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Here we are not given the angle between the two sides: hence we can't use the Sine formula here.

We are just given two adjacent sides and non-including angle

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Here we are not given the angle between the two sides: hence we can't use the Sine formula here.

We are just given two adjacent sides and non-including angle


Hi Leo8,

Awesome explanation.

Just wanna add that SSA gives 2 solutions using the law of sines. I'm not sure if we can use the law of sines given that PQR is obtuse?
https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/trig ... ngles.html
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Hi

Please see this similar question: https://gmatclub.com/forum/what-is-the- ... l#p2027164

This Question is based on a very IMPORTANT EXCEPTION:

The SSA condition (Side-Side-Angle) which specifies two sides and a non-included angle (also known as ASS, or
Angle-Side-Side) does not always prove congruence, even when the equal angles are opposite equal sides.

Specifically, SSA does not prove congruence when the angle is acute and the opposite side is shorter than the
known adjacent side but longer than the sine of the angle times the adjacent side. This is the ambiguous case. In
all other cases with corresponding equalities, SSA proves congruence.

The SSA condition proves congruence if the angle is obtuse or right. In the case of the right angle (also known
as the HL (Hypotenuse-Leg) condition or the RHS (Right-angle-Hypotenuse-Side) condition), we can calculate the
third side and fall back on SSS.

If any triangle follows laws of Congruency, it means it can be drawn Uniquely. Hence sufficient.

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Here we are not given the angle between the two sides: hence we can't use the Sine formula here.

We are just given two adjacent sides and non-including angle


Hi Leo8,

Awesome explanation.

Just wanna add that SSA gives 2 solutions using the law of sines. I'm not sure if we can use the law of sines given that PQR is obtuse?
https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/trig ... ngles.html

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What is the area of triangle PQR?

(1) angle PQR is 120 degrees - dimensions of the triangle are given - not sufficient

(2) PQ=5 units and PR=10 units. Side QR can be any value from 5< QR< 15 - not sufficient.

(1) + (2) SSA condition. As angle PQR is obtuse, QR can take only 1 value. Therefore, we can calculate the area of the square. Sufficient



Can you please elaborate. I am not convinced with the similarity and the area formula that has been used below
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First remember if you can draw a triangle or any figure uniquely, you can find any parameter related to the figure, it's area, perimeter, any angle, side, diagonal etc.

Now remember, if any triangle satisfy the law of congruency, it can be drawn uniquely.

In this question , we have proved that it is a unique triangle drawn as per given conditions. Hence area can be found out.

Let me know what u haven't understood?

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What is the area of triangle PQR?

(1) angle PQR is 120 degrees - dimensions of the triangle are given - not sufficient

(2) PQ=5 units and PR=10 units. Side QR can be any value from 5< QR< 15 - not sufficient.

(1) + (2) SSA condition. As angle PQR is obtuse, QR can take only 1 value. Therefore, we can calculate the area of the square. Sufficient



Can you please elaborate. I am not convinced with the similarity and the area formula that has been used below


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Can you please elaborate. I am not convinced with the similarity and the area formula that has been used below


Hi!

So, st. 1 itself is not sufficient.

St. 2 PQ =5, PR =10 => we can make infinite number of triangles (see attached pic)

St 1 + st 2. If angle PQR = 120, PQ=5, PR=10, we can draw only one triangle. Not sure? Try to draw another type :)
Therefore, we can find the area of the triangle. Please note that in DS questions we do not have to find the value of the area like in PS. We just have to know whether we CAN find the area with the data provided. So, as we can draw only ONE triangle with given values we will be able to calculate the area.

Hope this helps!
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