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13 Dec 2013, 16:31
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What is y? (1) x  y = 1 (2) xy = 12 I understand the question but my doubt however is: The MGMAT Guide says, Quote: Even when the equations are combined, they do not provide enough information to find y, and the answer is (E). . I do not understand why it says that because when I combine both the equations, I get a quadratic equation. I solve it and I get two answers y = 4 or y = 3. So, my take is using both the equations I am able to find the value of y. So, why is the correct answer E and why not C? Thank you!
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Re: What is y? (1) x  y = 1 (2)x y = 12 [#permalink]
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14 Dec 2013, 04:36
flower07 wrote: What is y? (1) x  y = 1 (2)x y = 12 I understand the question but my doubt however is: The MGMAT Guide says, Quote: Even when the equations are combined, they do not provide enough information to find y, and the answer is (E). . I do not understand why it says that because when I combine both the equations, I get a quadratic equation. I solve it and I get two answers y = 4 or y = 3. So, my take is using both the equations I am able to find the value of y. So, why is the correct answer E and why not C? Thank you! You got two possible values of y, which means that you don't know which one must be y (only one value counted!). The answer should be E



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14 Dec 2013, 06:12
flower07 wrote: What is y? (1) x  y = 1 (2) xy = 12 I understand the question but my doubt however is: The MGMAT Guide says, Quote: Even when the equations are combined, they do not provide enough information to find y, and the answer is (E). . I do not understand why it says that because when I combine both the equations, I get a quadratic equation. I solve it and I get two answers y = 4 or y = 3. So, my take is using both the equations I am able to find the value of y. So, why is the correct answer E and why not C? Thank you! When a DS question asks about the value of some variable, then the statement is sufficient ONLY if you can get the single numerical value of this variable. Since you get TWO possible values of y, the statements are not sufficient. Hope it's clear.
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14 Dec 2013, 11:01
I marked E since we are getting 2 values of y(3,4) even after combining both the equations.
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24 May 2017, 12:33
flower07 wrote: What is y? (1) x  y = 1 (2) xy = 12 I understand the question but my doubt however is: The MGMAT Guide says, Quote: Even when the equations are combined, they do not provide enough information to find y, and the answer is (E). . I do not understand why it says that because when I combine both the equations, I get a quadratic equation. I solve it and I get two answers y = 4 or y = 3. So, my take is using both the equations I am able to find the value of y. So, why is the correct answer E and why not C? Thank you! You just have to pay attention to the mild trap this question is baiting you into  it wants to make sure you are remembering the commutative instead of making assumptions. For example, (4)3= 12 43 = 1 BUT 3(4)=12 3 4= 1



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08 Sep 2017, 20:35
flower07 wrote: What is y? (1) x  y = 1 (2) xy = 12 I understand the question but my doubt however is: The MGMAT Guide says, Quote: Even when the equations are combined, they do not provide enough information to find y, and the answer is (E). . I do not understand why it says that because when I combine both the equations, I get a quadratic equation. I solve it and I get two answers y = 4 or y = 3. So, my take is using both the equations I am able to find the value of y. So, why is the correct answer E and why not C? Thank you! Nice trick here...classic "C" trap St 1 xy =1  clearly too many possibilities insuff St 2 xy = 12 clearly too many possibilities insuff St 1 and St 2 This question wants you to assume that the answer should be 4 and 3...however the answer can also be 3 and 4 E










