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Hi Zarrolou.
I have a quick question, can I place "are" after "thousands...." and delete the relative clause "that are........".
The sentence would be "Medieval invention of playing cards was just as remarkable as the thousand.....games are".
Is this structure ok? or we MUST delete "are".
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The sentence "Medieval invention of playing cards was just as remarkable as the thousand upon thousands of unique games are" (I just complited yours), looks good to me. (Even if its meaning is debatable :) ...)
The idiom "as remarkable as" is correctly used in this case, and the sentence keeps a parallel structure "invention was (...) games are".
Looks fine
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Hi Zarrolou.
I have a quick question, can I place "are" after "thousands...." and delete the relative clause "that are........".
The sentence would be "Medieval invention of playing cards was just as remarkable as the thousand.....games are".
Is this structure ok? or we MUST delete "are".
Thanks

The sentence "Medieval invention of playing cards was just as remarkable as the thousand upon thousands of unique games are" (I just complited yours), looks good to me. (Even if its meaning is debatable :) ...)
The idiom "as remarkable as" is correctly used in this case, and the sentence keeps a parallel structure "invention was (...) games are".
Looks fine

Hi Zarrolou.
Thank you. Last dumb question :)
The rule of thumb is that we NEVER put verbs after comparison words such as than, as. Verbs must be placed after nouns.?
For example:
- I have more books than you do --> correct.
- I have more books than do you --> incorrect.
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Hi Zarrolou.
Thank you. Last dumb question :)
The rule of thumb is that we NEVER put verbs after comparison words such as than, as. Verbs must be placed after nouns.?
For example:
- I have more books than you do --> correct.
- I have more books than do you --> incorrect.
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Generally speaking you're correct.
In my expreience "you do" in this order is prefered to "do you" in every case. But I would not discard a "do you" option straightaway beacuse of the order of the words: if it is against a "you do" option no doubt about who's the winner, but I don't want to give you a rule to discard a "do you" just because of the reversed order.

In my MGMAT SC book and others SC books, I don't remember any "I have more books than do you " phrase, but I don't remeber either a rule such as " we NEVER put verbs after comparison words such as than".

Hope this helps!
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A and B remain. In A seemed in incomplete, a "to be" is necessary : what seemed to be is the correct form. B wins
This is contrary to the truth.
"It seems remarkable" is preferred to "It seems to be remarkable".
The use of idiom "as remarkable as" is fully correct in this sentence. The sentence is wrong for other reason:
What seemed as remarkable as the medieval invention of playing cards are the thousands upon thousands of unique games that are shared by a worldwide audience.
This sentence would be correct if "seemed" were "seems".
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This is contrary to the truth.
"It seems remarkable" is preferred to "It seems to be remarkable".
The use of idiom "as remarkable as" is fully correct in this sentence. The sentence is wrong for other reason:
What seemed as remarkable as the medieval invention of playing cards are the thousands upon thousands of unique games that are shared by a worldwide audience.
This sentence would be correct if "seemed" were "seems".

Hi HumptyDumpty,

the correct usage of "seem" requires the following form "seem + infinite". The problem is not the past tense, but in the sentence "What seemed as remarkable as the medieval invention of playing cards" seem has no infinite form that completes the idiom.

You may wanna take a look here it's a list of idioms by GmatPill. I've found also these lists ( 1 2 ) on our forum.
Just a quick example that you can find there "seem + infinitive : Ambulance expenses seem to discourage patients from calling 911".
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Please read and follow the Guidelines for Posting in Verbal GMAT forum before posting anything.

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This is contrary to the truth.
"It seems remarkable" is preferred to "It seems to be remarkable".
The use of idiom "as remarkable as" is fully correct in this sentence. The sentence is wrong for other reason:
What seemed as remarkable as the medieval invention of playing cards are the thousands upon thousands of unique games that are shared by a worldwide audience.
This sentence would be correct if "seemed" were "seems".

Hi HumptyDumpty,

the correct usage of "seem" requires the following form "seem + infinite". The problem is not the past tense, but in the sentence "What seemed as remarkable as the medieval invention of playing cards" seem has no infinite form that completes the idiom.

You may wanna take a look here it's a list of idioms by GmatPill. I've found also these lists ( 1 2 ) on our forum.
Just a quick example that you can find there "seem + infinitive : Ambulance expenses seem to discourage patients from calling 911".

Zarrolou,
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the correct usage of "seem" requires the following form "seem + infinite".
"Seem" calls for infinitive always when it is followed by verb. However, it would be very limiting to the language to constrain "seem" to precede only verbs. This is a correct but not the only one idiom. In A) we see "seem" followed by comparison that is indeed correct. Moreover, "to be" between "seem" and adjective is not welcome.

GMAT idiom lists cannot be "more true" than dictionaries issued by Oxford or Cambridge. These lists are somehow handy for memorizing most common GMAT idioms. However, they are extracted from full dictionary entries and compiled just by smart students, not by English language authorities who regulate the language. If you look deeper, you will find out that such lists are not all too reliable.
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