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# Who is applying where...?

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10 Sep 2007, 23:20
Probably. I attended the session in the Haas campus.

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10 Sep 2007, 23:22
ahh, that's why. I believe zakk also went to one around the South Bay and said it was all Indians. Good to hear it's very diverse (nothing against Indians!) though!

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10 Sep 2007, 23:25
I dont think there will be more than 20 or 25 Indians in a class. So, in a 30 member cohort, there will be 2 or 3 of them.

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11 Sep 2007, 11:33
kryzak wrote:
well, it's actually 14% (which isn't that much higher) because Berkeley's yield is roughly 50%.

Only 50% yield at Berkeley? Is that b/c everyone's also applying to Stanford and UCLA who applies to Haas?

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11 Sep 2007, 14:03
probably... but Kellogg only has a 57-62% yield in the past few years. Most TOP schools have only a 60-70% yield. Harvard is 90, Stanford is 80, and Wharton is 75 or so. All the others are quite low because people who apply to the top 7-15 schools will also apply to 4-5 more other equivalent schools. Just look at us here in GMATClub.

If everyone who applies to 5 top schools get into all 5, then by definition the yield for those schools will all be around 20%. Generally people get into 2-3 top schools, and with "yield management" (Why this School questions and waitlists) techniques, most schools have a 50-70% yield.

This is my rough guess at the yields of the top 15 schools, based on BW 2003 book and their online stats from 2006.

HBS: 90
Stan: 80
Wharton: 75
Chicago, Kellogg, MIT, Columbia: 60-70
Elite Schools: 50-60

And that's the *average* yield... so if you combine the whole GMAT score and acceptance rate math that rhyme and pelihu did (it's stickied), the chances for many of us are slightly better than the regular acceptance rate, that is, if we submit a good application.

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11 Sep 2007, 14:13
kryzak wrote:
probably... but Kellogg only has a 57-62% yield in the past few years. Most TOP schools have only a 60-70% yield. Harvard is 90, Stanford is 80, and Wharton is 75 or so. All the others are quite low because people who apply to the top 7-15 schools will also apply to 4-5 more other equivalent schools. Just look at us here in GMATClub.

If everyone who applies to 5 top schools get into all 5, then by definition the yield for those schools will all be around 20%. Generally people get into 2-3 top schools, and with "yield management" (Why this School questions and waitlists) techniques, most schools have a 50-70% yield.

This is my rough guess at the yields of the top 15 schools, based on BW 2003 book and their online stats from 2006.

HBS: 90
Stan: 80
Wharton: 75
Chicago, Kellogg, MIT, Columbia: 60-70
Elite Schools: 50-60

And that's the *average* yield... so if you combine the whole GMAT score and acceptance rate math that rhyme and pelihu did (it's stickied), the chances for many of us are slightly better than the regular acceptance rate, that is, if we submit a good application.

Explain to me the last paragraph. Why would you combine the GMAT score and acceptance rate to get a higher yield? Wouldnt you have already factored that when making the initial yield calculations?

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11 Sep 2007, 14:21
sorry I wasn't clear. I meant that the listed yields are averaged over all GMAT scores. As rhyme and pelihu showed, the yield for people with 750+ GMAT scores is probably much lower than 50%, since they're probably applying to equivalent or "better" schools to reduce the risk. And thus with the lower yields for the higher GMAT score people, the acceptance rate will go up higher than 14% at Haas.

There's a couple logical steps I didn't elaborate there and I apologize about that.

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11 Sep 2007, 14:45
No sweat.. you should take up a job as a professor....ur explanations are much clearer than mine!!!

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11 Sep 2007, 15:07
For your information. Chicago is the only top 15 school that doesn't report the yield... but the guess is roughly 65%

HBS: 90
Stan: 80
Wharton: **70** (probably because anyone who applies there usually applies to H/S)
Columbia: 79! (probably because of ED)
Chicago, Kellogg, MIT: 57-70
Elite Schools: 45-64 (with Ross at 64%, the rest were 45-50%)

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11 Sep 2007, 15:43
kryzak wrote:
For your information. Chicago is the only top 15 school that doesn't report the yield... but the guess is roughly 65%

HBS: 90
Stan: 80
Wharton: **70** (probably because anyone who applies there usually applies to H/S)
Columbia: 79! (probably because of ED)
Chicago, Kellogg, MIT: 57-70
Elite Schools: 45-64 (with Ross at 64%, the rest were 45-50%)

Thanks for the great breakdown kryzak. Among those schools I'm only planning on applying to Haas (and Duke/UNC might also be in the elite group?), so hopefully I'll get 3 admits and then be able to contribute to those yield numbers.

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11 Sep 2007, 16:05
PaulK, check out Hjort's cluster systems...

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Duke and Haas are Elites. UNC is Trans Elite. You should do well!

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11 Sep 2007, 17:11
kryzak wrote:
As rhyme and pelihu showed, the yield for people with 750+ GMAT scores is probably much lower than 50%, since they're probably applying to equivalent or "better" schools to reduce the risk. And thus with the lower yields for the higher GMAT score people, the acceptance rate will go up higher than 14% at Haas.

Even with my solid score I am still plenty scared by that 14% number. This process is making me paranoid.

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11 Sep 2007, 17:17
this may make you feel a little bit better?

Feel free to try to reverse engineer Berkeley's numbers if you like

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11 Sep 2007, 19:53
I talked with the admissions officer for the MIT LMF/MBA program. She said their yield for that program is 90% or so and other specialized programs like MIT's entrepreneurship one typically have very high yields.

During the presentation tonight MIT has a class 17 people larger than expected because their yield was better than they had hoped for. With that in mind its probably going to be tougher this year and also the waitlist doesn't provide much hope.

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12 Sep 2007, 00:00
Well, Haas uses the waitlist to manage its yield... 50% of the people on the waitlist get off...

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12 Sep 2007, 06:01
R: Carnegie Mellon MSISPM

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02 Oct 2007, 11:09
Slight change in my plans. Stan moves to R2 (So that I don't have to compete with kryzak directly). Guys, please update this thread as your plans change. It'll be interesting to see who applied where in the end.

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02 Oct 2007, 11:39
Me too mostly into R2. Thank God I dont have to compete with kryzak but then mNeo is waiting for me. Whether mNeo is praying or not, I want him to get into Wharton/Columbia.

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02 Oct 2007, 15:13
LOL! Yay, two fewer tough competitions!

Here's my final R1 schools:

Stanford, Haas, UCLA

R2 still in flux, but considering:
Kellogg, Chicago

K.

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02 Oct 2007, 15:40
kryzak wrote:
LOL! Yay, two fewer tough competitions!

Here's my final R1 schools:

Stanford, Haas, UCLA

R2 still in flux, but considering:
Kellogg, Chicago

K.

Now we almost completely overlap, great

R1
Haas, Ross

R2
Chicago, UCLA, Stanford, Harvard

Its hard to get back into the daily 8-10 hours of work and 4 hours of essays after traveling Europe for 3 weeks.

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