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08 Sep 2015, 11:37
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Please consider the following sentence:
Neither the judge not I am ready to announce who the winner is.
and
Neither the judge not I am ready to announce who is the winner.
Can someone elaborate the difference between the above two sentences?
Also when should the word Whom be used.
Thanks in advance,
Karthik
Neither the judge not I am ready to announce who the winner is.
and
Neither the judge not I am ready to announce who is the winner.
Can someone elaborate the difference between the above two sentences?
Also when should the word Whom be used.
Thanks in advance,
Karthik
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08 Sep 2015, 14:44
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Dear Karthik,
I'm happy to respond.
First of all, I want to correct one mistake in both of your sample sentences. It should not be Neither the judge not I am ready...
Instead, it should be
Neither the judge nor I am ready...
What you are asking is a very subtle point of idiom, and I guarantee that this distinction alone would not be the make-or-break distinction between a right answer and wrong answer on the GMAT SC.
This is correct and natural and idiomatic.
(1) Neither the judge nor I am ready to announce who the winner is.
The other version sounds awkward.
To discuss the rule, I need to introduce some grammar terms.
The words {who, what, which} are relative pronouns, and they begin a relative clause.
Relative clauses are flexible. Many times, they are simply noun modifiers, modifying a noun in the independent clause.
Sometimes, though, a relative clause can act as a substantive clause, that is, a noun clause: a clause that takes the place of a noun. This is the role of the relative clause in the two example sentences you used. For more on this usage, see:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/substantiv ... -the-gmat/
The relative pronoun always begins the relative clause. In many substantive clause constructions, it is idiomatically correct to put the verb at the end of the clause.
What Hitler was thinking when he invaded Russian puzzles historians.
Regardless of which candidate the President nominates, the Senate will block the chosen candidate.
Years after the Watergate Scandal, Mark Felt's revelation cleared up who Deep Throat really was.
Do no ask for whom the bell tolls.
In all of those, the verb idiomatically goes at the end of the substantive clause.
Does this answer your question? I am also going to recommend this blog:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2014/how-to-imp ... bal-score/
The only way one can master this sort of thing is by reading.
Mike
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