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Hi All,

Slight conundrum here. I got a 710 (Q46, V41, IR 6, AWA pending), which isn't a shabby score but I'd like to know if there are current students at my target schools that can shed light on whether a re-take would be beneficial (target score on the re-take would be 730).

Degree: Masters in Chemistry, 1st class, University of Bristol
Background: Business consulting, 6 years. 4 years in Copenhagen, 2 years in San Francisco.

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>Cambridge Judge
>Oxford Said
>LBS
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GMAT Prep 1: 700
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GMAT Prep 3: 730
GMAT Prep 4: 720
GMAT Prep 5: 760
GMAT Prep 6: 720

It would help to know more about your background:

- What was your undergraduate school and GPA?
- What company do you work for now / role at firm?
- Extra-curricular leadership?
- Demographics?

While those answers may impact my advice, I would recommend retaking since the quant is low. For Oxford and Cambridge that may be enough but a higher score would help. That is low for Berkeley though and LBS it depends on the rest of the elements. The 46 is the concern more so than the overall score even for Oxford and Cambridge.

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Thanks Scott.

> A UK 1st class degree corresponds to 4.0 GPA. University of Bristol.
> I'm currently a Senior Consultant working primarily in life sciences (3 promotions across 6 years)
> Extracurriculars: Field hockey, having played national league and in Europe
> Demographic: 30, British
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Thanks for the follow up. I was not sure if you did your undergraduate studies elsewhere since you just wrote masters, hence that question. It sounds like it was all together so that is great.

While I still would like to know the company (the specific company has an impact on your overall chances, more so than just being in consulting), I do think that there would be benefit in retaking the GMAT to try to raise your score. Worst case scenario you end up with the 710 which is still competitive for some of those schools.

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Thanks for the follow up. I was not sure if you did your undergraduate studies elsewhere since you just wrote masters, hence that question. It sounds like it was all together so that is great.

While I still would like to know the company (the specific company has an impact on your overall chances, more so than just being in consulting), I do think that there would be benefit in retaking the GMAT to try to raise your score. Worst case scenario you end up with the 710 which is still competitive for some of those schools.

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Got you, it was an integrated masters (you sign up for the masters from the very beginning). The consultancy is medium sized (2500) and specializes in the life sciences. You won't be familiar with the name, it's not a brand name consultancy like BCG, but to give you context it will typically compete with consultancies such as Deloitte and Accenture for projects.

Judge is my preferred option and has a median score of 690. I feel that I'm in a position where my overall score is pretty favorable, and the quant isn't a red flag given my science undergrad. I was planning to take some online courses anyway pre-MBA (economics, accounting) given that I don't have a background in these areas, and feel my time would be better spent learning relevant subject material than getting a little bump to say 730 with a quant 47/48. Do you think the courses would also help the application?
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Thanks for the follow up. I was not sure if you did your undergraduate studies elsewhere since you just wrote masters, hence that question. It sounds like it was all together so that is great.

While I still would like to know the company (the specific company has an impact on your overall chances, more so than just being in consulting), I do think that there would be benefit in retaking the GMAT to try to raise your score. Worst case scenario you end up with the 710 which is still competitive for some of those schools.

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Got you, it was an integrated masters (you sign up for the masters from the very beginning). The consultancy is medium sized (2500) and specializes in the life sciences. You won't be familiar with the name, it's not a brand name consultancy like BCG, but to give you context it will typically compete with consultancies such as Deloitte and Accenture for projects.

Judge is my preferred option and has a median score of 690. I feel that I'm in a position where my overall score is pretty favorable, and the quant isn't a red flag given my science undergrad. I was planning to take some online courses anyway pre-MBA (economics, accounting) given that I don't have a background in these areas, and feel my time would be better spent learning relevant subject material than getting a little bump to say 730 with a quant 47/48. Do you think the courses would also help the application?

That's great. It sounds like interesting work. If Judge is the main target then you have a good chance if you create strong essays. Yes the extra courses will help the app so that is a good move.

Best of luck!

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Thanks for the follow up. I was not sure if you did your undergraduate studies elsewhere since you just wrote masters, hence that question. It sounds like it was all together so that is great.

While I still would like to know the company (the specific company has an impact on your overall chances, more so than just being in consulting), I do think that there would be benefit in retaking the GMAT to try to raise your score. Worst case scenario you end up with the 710 which is still competitive for some of those schools.

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Got you, it was an integrated masters (you sign up for the masters from the very beginning). The consultancy is medium sized (2500) and specializes in the life sciences. You won't be familiar with the name, it's not a brand name consultancy like BCG, but to give you context it will typically compete with consultancies such as Deloitte and Accenture for projects.

Judge is my preferred option and has a median score of 690. I feel that I'm in a position where my overall score is pretty favorable, and the quant isn't a red flag given my science undergrad. I was planning to take some online courses anyway pre-MBA (economics, accounting) given that I don't have a background in these areas, and feel my time would be better spent learning relevant subject material than getting a little bump to say 730 with a quant 47/48. Do you think the courses would also help the application?

That's great. It sounds like interesting work. If Judge is the main target then you have a good chance if you create strong essays. Yes the extra courses will help the app so that is a good move.

Best of luck!

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Hi Scott,

After mulling the score over a bit longer I booked a retake and bumped the score up to a 720 (Q48, V40, IR6, AWA 6). It was a little frustrating to see the verbal fall by a point but I got the increase in quant I was looking for. In your opinion does this score now put me in a solid position to apply to Judge, LBS and Berkeley?
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Score is good man!
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Congrats on the improvement. Quant is more important than verbal so that is the right area to bump. You should be in a solid position to apply to Judge and LBS. Berkeley also looks good, though the 720 is more average for Haas whereas it is quit strong for the others.

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So my 2 cents is that it looks like you may be able to squeeze out a little more from the GMAT tube.. and why not if you can stand it! But with the exception of Haas, I'm not sure you need to. However, if you think you might consider consulting post MBA, those few extra points might help in recruiting. I think this is your call- but make sure you spend time now on your applications as you need more than a good GMAT to get in most top programs. So spend time on why MBA, why this school etc and if you can do that and still manage a bit more GMAT prep, then sure give it a try. But if you don't I think you will still feel some MBA love from the programs on your list!

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So my 2 cents is that it looks like you may be able to squeeze out a little more from the GMAT tube.. and why not if you can stand it! But with the exception of Haas, I'm not sure you need to. However, if you think you might consider consulting post MBA, those few extra points might help in recruiting. I think this is your call- but make sure you spend time now on your applications as you need more than a good GMAT to get in most top programs. So spend time on why MBA, why this school etc and if you can do that and still manage a bit more GMAT prep, then sure give it a try. But if you don't I think you will still feel some MBA love from the programs on your list!

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Thanks very much for your reply Donna! Is your advice for retaking the GMAT for Haas based on my latest score (720, Q48/V40)? Haas' average is just under 720 so that should be competitive, no?

I could retake but I think my time would be better invested in the other aspects of the application process rather than gaining 10 or 20 points. Am I wrong in my thinking?
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While Haas really values quantitate abilities, so the Q48 may raise some eyebrows but if you have a quant heavy course work and if your work involves analytical tasks relevant to b schools (elaborated in your essays or recommendations) you should be good to go!


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