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(D) A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500; an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind.

Can anyone explain how is the 2nd clause independent?

"an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind." Standing alone, what is the meaning of this statement? Such what?
When linked together, it does make sense but I'm not convinced about its independence.
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Can anyone explain how is the 2nd clause independent?

"an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind." Standing alone, what is the meaning of this statement? Such what?
When linked together, it does make sense but I'm not convinced about its independence.
Hi Nis20,

An independent clause (as a unit) is a combination of a subject and predicate (verb). Look at this as a structural call, not a logical call. For example, in "Ashu took the exam and he got a good score", he got a good score is an independent clause even though he refers to a noun in the first independent clause.
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Can anyone explain how is the 2nd clause independent?

"an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind." Standing alone, what is the meaning of this statement? Such what?
When linked together, it does make sense but I'm not convinced about its independence.
You can watch our video on Independent and Dependent Clauses.

Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses Independent and Dependent Clauses, their application and examples in significant detail. If you or someone is interested, PM me your email-id; I can mail the corresponding section.
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As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.


(A) As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.

(B) A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind as an adult.

(C) As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult.

(D) A baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision that would be rated about 20/500; an adult with such vision would be deemed legally blind.

(E) As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision, which would be deemed legally blind for an adult, would be rated about 20/500.

A has ambiguous pronouns. "it" could reference "vision", "a baby", "the darkness"

B isn't concise in what is legally blind, and the use of "as an adult" is incorrect since there's no "as X as Y"

C has the same issue as A

E same issues as A and C

D is concise, and direct in what is "rated 20/500" and clarifies the second part of the original sentence.
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Option A: "As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision"

I was confused between A and D. I somehow felt that there is a meaning change in option D and chose the wrong answer A.

Is the ambiguous usage of "it" the only mistake in option A?


Please clarify.
The usage of "it" is worse than ambiguous in (A). Because "it" is the subject of a clause and "a baby" is the subject of the previous clause, it seems as though "it" is referring to "a baby." Rating a baby 20/500 isn't just nonsensical, it's downright mean. (On a good day, my baby would rate at least a 120 on a 500 point scale.)

Worse still, the clause "if it were an adult with such vision" suggests that a baby could be an adult! I would not want to live in such a world. And neither would that man-baby's poor mother... :oops:

But (A) it also logically refers to a rudimentary sense of vision.
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I still don't understand how "it" is a problem in A as "it" can't refer to baby, but in choice C and E, "its" referring to baby is not a definite error. "Its" referring to baby or womb won't make sense, so that should be enough to eliminate C and E. I understand there are other errors in C and E.

Can "its" referring to "baby" considered okay?

Thanks for your help!

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I will be glad to help you out with this one. :-)


Let's take a look at the original sentence:

As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.

In the structure it would be rated..., pronoun it cannot refer to a baby because this reference does not make logical sense. A baby cannot be rated 20/500. Per the context of the sentence, only the sense of vision can be rated so.

Now, the way the original sentence is written, the antecedent of both the instances of pronoun it must refer to the same noun entity. However, pronoun it in the structure if it were an adult... cannot refer to the sense of vision because a sense of vision cannot be an adult.

So, in Choice A, usage of pronoun is incorrect because their reference is not logical.


Now let's talk about Choice C and E. IMHO, usage of pronoun it in Choices C and E are not ambiguous because the sentence won't make sense if it is deemed to refer to any other noun entity apart from a baby. But yes, these two choices have other very definite errors and hence, can be rejected easily.

Hope this helps. :-)
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Hi Egmat/Shraddha,

Want 1 clarity.

In option D, the sentence after semicolon has the word 'such' in it. Can an independent clause have elements that are actually dependent upon the previous sentence? If the criteria of independent clause is that it should stand alone, does the clause after semicolon in option D qualify to be an IC?
If I just wrote this sentence alone, how would someone know what does 'such' refer to?
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I still don't understand how "it" is a problem in A as "it" can't refer to baby, but in choice C and E, "its" referring to baby is not a definite error. "Its" referring to baby or womb won't make sense, so that should be enough to eliminate C and E. I understand there are other errors in C and E.

Can "its" referring to "baby" considered okay?

Thanks for your help!

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I will be glad to help you out with this one. :-)


Let's take a look at the original sentence:

As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb with a rudimentary sense of vision, it would be rated about 20/500, or legally blind if it were an adult with such vision.

In the structure it would be rated..., pronoun it cannot refer to a baby because this reference does not make logical sense. A baby cannot be rated 20/500. Per the context of the sentence, only the sense of vision can be rated so.

Now, the way the original sentence is written, the antecedent of both the instances of pronoun it must refer to the same noun entity. However, pronoun it in the structure if it were an adult... cannot refer to the sense of vision because a sense of vision cannot be an adult.

So, in Choice A, usage of pronoun is incorrect because their reference is not logical.


Now let's talk about Choice C and E. IMHO, usage of pronoun it in Choices C and E are not ambiguous because the sentence won't make sense if it is deemed to refer to any other noun entity apart from a baby. But yes, these two choices have other very definite errors and hence, can be rejected easily.

Hope this helps. :-)
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Hi Egmat/Shraddha,

Want 1 clarity.

In option D, the sentence after semicolon has the word 'such' in it. Can an independent clause have elements that are actually dependent upon the previous sentence? If the criteria of independent clause is that it should stand alone, does the clause after semicolon in option D qualify to be an IC?
If I just wrote this sentence alone, how would someone know what does 'such' refer to?

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We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, if two independent clauses are joined by a semicolon or the "comma + conjunction" construction, a pronoun in one can be used to refer to a noun that only appears in the other, as both clauses are still part of the same sentence.

We hope this helps.
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(C) As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult.

1) In C, how to identify whether it is an IC or just a modifier?
2) I thought sentence after semicolon has ellipsis - So I read C as "If it were (ellipsis) an adult, qualifying it to be legally blind". Why it is incorrect?

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(C) As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult.

1) In C, how to identify whether it is an IC or just a modifier?
2) I thought sentence after semicolon has ellipsis - So I read C as "If it were (ellipsis) an adult, qualifying it to be legally blind". Why it is incorrect?

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Hi Sneha2021,

Subordinating conjunctions like if introduce dependent clauses, so we must look elsewhere for an independent clause. And although it's not a perfect test, we can use the fact that an independent clause is a subject-verb combination that can stand alone as a sentence to check whether qualifying... is a complete thought.

1. qualifying it to be legally blind

We can check whether "qualifying it to be legally blind" sounds like a complete sentence. We can also break the phrase down. In this entire phrase, there are only two things that are sort-of-verbs: qualifying and to be. Qualifying is a present participle, and to be is an infinitive. Although both participles and infinitives are verb forms, neither is capable of acting as a complete verb. This effectively means that we can't be looking at an independent clause, as (1) has no complete verb.
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Please help to eliminate C.
(C) As a baby emerges from the darkness of the womb, its rudimentary sense of vision would be rated about 20/500; qualifying it to be legally blind if an adult.

1) In C, how to identify whether it is an IC or just a modifier?
2) I thought sentence after semicolon has ellipsis - So I read C as "If it were (ellipsis) an adult, qualifying it to be legally blind". Why it is incorrect?

Thanks in advance!

Hello Sneha2021,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, a clause is considered independent if it meets three criteria:

1. It has an independent subject (noun or pronoun).

2. It has an active verb.

3. The active verb acts upon the subject to form a complete thought.

In Option C, there is no subject; the pronoun "it" is an object rather than a subject, as it does not take an action.

Further, Option C has no active verbs, only a present participle ("verb+ing" - "qualifying" in this sentence) and an infinitive verb form ("to + base form of verb" - "to + be" in this sentence).

Thus, Option C is not an independent clause.

Moreover, even if we assume that the rule of ellipses applies here, as you have suggested, Option C would not form an independent clause, as it still lacks a subject, and "were" would be part of a conditional phrase, not an active verb.

We hope this helps.
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Can we eliminate A & B because before OR there is a comma. We should only use comma with and after three words. Such As: Right: apples, grapes, and mangoes.
Wrong: apples, and mangoes.

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Can we eliminate A & B because before OR there is a comma. We should only use comma with and after three words. Such As: Right: apples, grapes, and mangoes.
Wrong: apples, and mangoes.

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We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, the use of a comma is not the error in Options A and B; here "or legally blind..." is a modifying phrase, and the comma serves to connect it with the preceding noun to form the "noun + comma + phrase" construction; the error is that in this construction, the modifier illogically modifies the noun "20/500".

We hope this helps.
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