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Attention!!! Novice at RC Questions here. [#permalink] New post   20 Jun 2018, 11:53
What does it take to be an expert at RC questions?

Are there tricks, strategies, best resources to study?

I don't just know how to approach these questions and RC seems to be my weakest link, what can I do about it?

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Re: Attention!!! Novice at RC Questions here. [#permalink] New post   20 Jun 2018, 20:07
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RC used to be my weakness too. I have given my first attempt at Gmat and screwed up completely mainly because of RC, getting a disastrous 19.
Now I have started my preparation and I completely changed the strategy for RC and to my surprise I am close to 95-100% accurate with my answers

Strategy- 1. UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURE OF THE PASSAGE. Understand why a certain paragraph or line is there in the passage. What good does it serve to the overall passage and how the line or para is supporting or contrasting authors idea.

2. GO VERY SLOW IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PASSAGE.
Take as much time you need for the first paragraph.

3. STOP TO THINK WHAT YOU JUST READ. Stopping sparodically to think and comprehend(most important) what you just read is vital

4. TAKE NOTES. This is just to ensure that you understand what you read. Don’t fool yourself to try to rewrite the whole passage, you just need to write very simple things.

Let me give you an example,
I would have made my notes like this for a passage-

-PROBLEM—>SOULTION.
-RECENT RESEARCH CONTRAST THE SOLUTION
-EXAMPLES
-EXPERIMENTS TO CONTRAST THE SOLUTION
-RECENT RESEARCH INSUFFICIENT.

RC is very easy once you understand the mantra- “you just need to understand what you read”

Good lick with your preparation.
-satya


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Attention!!! Novice at RC Questions here. [#permalink] New post   20 Jun 2018, 21:36
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satya23bh wrote:
RC used to be my weakness too. I have given my first attempt at Gmat and screwed up completely mainly because of RC, getting a disastrous 19.
Now I have started my preparation and I completely changed the strategy for RC and to my surprise I am close to 95-100% accurate with my answers

Strategy- 1. UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURE OF THE PASSAGE. Understand why a certain paragraph or line is there in the passage. What good does it serve to the overall passage and how the line or para is supporting or contrasting authors idea.

2. GO VERY SLOW IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PASSAGE.
Take as much time you need for the first paragraph.

3. STOP TO THINK WHAT YOU JUST READ. Stopping sparodically to think and comprehend(most important) what you just read is vital

4. TAKE NOTES. This is just to ensure that you understand what you read. Don’t fool yourself to try to rewrite the whole passage, you just need to write very simple things.

Let me give you an example,
I would have made my notes like this for a passage-

-PROBLEM—>SOULTION.
-RECENT RESEARCH CONTRAST THE SOLUTION
-EXAMPLES
-EXPERIMENTS TO CONTRAST THE SOLUTION
-RECENT RESEARCH INSUFFICIENT.

RC is very easy once you understand the mantra- “you just need to understand what you read”

Good lick with your preparation.
-satya


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Great Stuff!!

In addition to the above excellent strategy, i highly recommend the MGMAT "Thursdays with Ron" Study hall videos. The RC videos by Ron are pure GOLD!! helped me immensely & have cemented the approach for RC in my brain for life.

If you don't know who RonPurewal is, he is a legend in GMAT land!!

Below is the link (thanks to carcass ) & the dates you should look for RC videos:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/mgmat-study- ... 09197.html

Date Desciption of video
19-Aug-10 Long Passages & Main Idea Questions
09-Sep-10 Short Passages & Miscellaneous Question Types
06-Jan-11 Reading Comprehension: A Trick for Finding the Main
28-Apr-11 Inference & Suggestion Questions
02-Jun-11 More on inference & suggestion questions
18-Jun-15 Approaching Highly Technical Passages
09-Jul-15 Approaching Highly Technical Passages (continued)
23-Jul-15 Personalizing the Passages (continued)
06-Aug-15 Personalizing the Passages (continued)


All the Best!!


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GyM
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Re: Attention!!! Novice at RC Questions here. [#permalink] New post   20 Jun 2018, 22:47
GyMrAT wrote:
satya23bh wrote:
RC used to be my weakness too. I have given my first attempt at Gmat and screwed up completely mainly because of RC, getting a disastrous 19.
Now I have started my preparation and I completely changed the strategy for RC and to my surprise I am close to 95-100% accurate with my answers

Strategy- 1. UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURE OF THE PASSAGE. Understand why a certain paragraph or line is there in the passage. What good does it serve to the overall passage and how the line or para is supporting or contrasting authors idea.

2. GO VERY SLOW IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PASSAGE.
Take as much time you need for the first paragraph.

3. STOP TO THINK WHAT YOU JUST READ. Stopping sparodically to think and comprehend(most important) what you just read is vital

4. TAKE NOTES. This is just to ensure that you understand what you read. Don’t fool yourself to try to rewrite the whole passage, you just need to write very simple things.

Let me give you an example,
I would have made my notes like this for a passage-

-PROBLEM—>SOULTION.
-RECENT RESEARCH CONTRAST THE SOLUTION
-EXAMPLES
-EXPERIMENTS TO CONTRAST THE SOLUTION
-RECENT RESEARCH INSUFFICIENT.

RC is very easy once you understand the mantra- “you just need to understand what you read”

Good lick with your preparation.
-satya


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Great Stuff!!

In addition to the above excellent strategy, i highly recommend the MGMAT "Thursdays with Ron" Study hall videos. The RC videos by Ron are pure GOLD!! helped me immensely & have cemented the approach for RC in my brain for life.

If you don't know who RonPurewal is, he is a legend in GMAT land!!

Below is the link (thanks to carcass ) & the dates you should look for RC videos:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/mgmat-study- ... 09197.html

Date Desciption of video
19-Aug-10 Long Passages & Main Idea Questions
09-Sep-10 Short Passages & Miscellaneous Question Types
06-Jan-11 Reading Comprehension: A Trick for Finding the Main
28-Apr-11 Inference & Suggestion Questions
02-Jun-11 More on inference & suggestion questions
18-Jun-15 Approaching Highly Technical Passages
09-Jul-15 Approaching Highly Technical Passages (continued)
23-Jul-15 Personalizing the Passages (continued)
06-Aug-15 Personalizing the Passages (continued)


All the Best!!


Thanks,
GyM


Thanks, I'll have to go and check it out.

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Attention!!! Novice at RC Questions here. [#permalink] New post   20 Jun 2018, 23:00
satya23bh wrote:
RC used to be my weakness too. I have given my first attempt at Gmat and screwed up completely mainly because of RC, getting a disastrous 19.
Now I have started my preparation and I completely changed the strategy for RC and to my surprise I am close to 95-100% accurate with my answers

Strategy- 1. UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURE OF THE PASSAGE. Understand why a certain paragraph or line is there in the passage. What good does it serve to the overall passage and how the line or para is supporting or contrasting authors idea.

2. GO VERY SLOW IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PASSAGE.
Take as much time you need for the first paragraph.

3. STOP TO THINK WHAT YOU JUST READ. Stopping sparodically to think and comprehend(most important) what you just read is vital

4. TAKE NOTES. This is just to ensure that you understand what you read. Don’t fool yourself to try to rewrite the whole passage, you just need to write very simple things.

Let me give you an example,
I would have made my notes like this for a passage-

-PROBLEM—>SOULTION.
-RECENT RESEARCH CONTRAST THE SOLUTION
-EXAMPLES
-EXPERIMENTS TO CONTRAST THE SOLUTION
-RECENT RESEARCH INSUFFICIENT.

RC is very easy once you understand the mantra- “you just need to understand what you read”

Good lick with your preparation.
-satya


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Thanks Satya, 95-100% is pretty cool!
I have two questions concerning this.
Q1:Isn't it time consuming to take notes, slowly read the first paragraph, stop to think and all of that? Especially with the long passages.

Q2:Concerning the structure, is there a skeletal system or a type of format that all RC questions follow?

Thanks!
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Re: Attention!!! Novice at RC Questions here. [#permalink] New post   23 Jun 2018, 05:04
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MrJglass wrote:
satya23bh wrote:
RC used to be my weakness too. I have given my first attempt at Gmat and screwed up completely mainly because of RC, getting a disastrous 19.
Now I have started my preparation and I completely changed the strategy for RC and to my surprise I am close to 95-100% accurate with my answers

Strategy- 1. UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURE OF THE PASSAGE. Understand why a certain paragraph or line is there in the passage. What good does it serve to the overall passage and how the line or para is supporting or contrasting authors idea.

2. GO VERY SLOW IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PASSAGE.
Take as much time you need for the first paragraph.

3. STOP TO THINK WHAT YOU JUST READ. Stopping sparodically to think and comprehend(most important) what you just read is vital

4. TAKE NOTES. This is just to ensure that you understand what you read. Don’t fool yourself to try to rewrite the whole passage, you just need to write very simple things.

Let me give you an example,
I would have made my notes like this for a passage-

-PROBLEM—>SOULTION.
-RECENT RESEARCH CONTRAST THE SOLUTION
-EXAMPLES
-EXPERIMENTS TO CONTRAST THE SOLUTION
-RECENT RESEARCH INSUFFICIENT.

RC is very easy once you understand the mantra- “you just need to understand what you read”

Good lick with your preparation.
-satya


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Thanks Satya, 95-100% is pretty cool!
I have two questions concerning this.
Q1:Isn't it time consuming to take notes, slowly read the first paragraph, stop to think and all of that? Especially with the long passages.

Q2:Concerning the structure, is there a skeletal system or a type of format that all RC questions follow?

Thanks!


1. Yes, in the beginning it will be little bit time consuming but as you pick up the pace and the pattern you will be faster. What makes you really slower is to go back to the passage multiple times when you try to answer without understanding the structure.

2. There is no format for RC as such. But what I find in most passage is
- Whenever a fact or a statement is made, the author will almost always justify or explain maybe with example his stand.
- Whenever the author is introducing someone else’s view in the context, he is most likely to oppose that view or critique.
-Look for change of tone in the passage.


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Re: Attention!!! Novice at RC Questions here. [#permalink] New post   23 Jun 2018, 06:10
satya23bh wrote:

1. Yes, in the beginning it will be little bit time consuming but as you pick up the pace and the pattern you will be faster. What makes you really slower is to go back to the passage multiple times when you try to answer without understanding the structure.

2. There is no format for RC as such. But what I find in most passage is
- Whenever a fact or a statement is made, the author will almost always justify or explain maybe with example his stand.
- Whenever the author is introducing someone else’s view in the context, he is most likely to oppose that view or critique.
-Look for change of tone in the passage.


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Just before I was able to say, "Oh okay" I saw this:

"Look for change of tone in the passage"

and then I was like, "Oh great!".

I have two questions for you, please bear with me. You don't have to reply this now, but 'please do' when it is suitable for you.

Question1: If RC Questions don't have a particular structure then what am I to observe and look out for when you say I should understand the structure of the passage?

Question2:I don't know how to look for a change in tone. I don't know what the tone is (Maybe: happy, confident, doubtful etc.)

For Example : "Aliens must exist since Present Obama said that he cannot make any comments when asked about their existence. If they didn't exist in the first place, then there is nothing to be confidential about".
How will you describe the above authors tone? Is it that of certainty, doubt or something else that goes beyond all that?

Thanks!

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Re: Attention!!! Novice at RC Questions here. [#permalink] New post   23 Jun 2018, 21:02
MrJglass wrote:
satya23bh wrote:

1. Yes, in the beginning it will be little bit time consuming but as you pick up the pace and the pattern you will be faster. What makes you really slower is to go back to the passage multiple times when you try to answer without understanding the structure.

2. There is no format for RC as such. But what I find in most passage is
- Whenever a fact or a statement is made, the author will almost always justify or explain maybe with example his stand.
- Whenever the author is introducing someone else’s view in the context, he is most likely to oppose that view or critique.
-Look for change of tone in the passage.


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Just before I was able to say, "Oh okay" I saw this:

"Look for change of tone in the passage"

and then I was like, "Oh great!".

I have two questions for you, please bear with me. You don't have to reply this now, but 'please do' when it is suitable for you.

Question1: If RC Questions don't have a particular structure then what am I to observe and look out for when you say I should understand the structure of the passage?

Question2:I don't know how to look for a change in tone. I don't know what the tone is (Maybe: happy, confident, doubtful etc.)

For Example : "Aliens must exist since Present Obama said that he cannot make any comments when asked about their existence. If they didn't exist in the first place, then there is nothing to be confidential about".
How will you describe the above authors tone? Is it that of certainty, doubt or something else that goes beyond all that?

Thanks!

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You can start from here ..... https://gmatclub.com/forum/gmat-club-s- ... 83101.html

I think most of your question are answered here.
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Re: Attention!!! Novice at RC Questions here. [#permalink] New post   24 Jun 2018, 12:43
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You can start from here ..... https://gmatclub.com/forum/gmat-club-s- ... 83101.html

I think most of your question are answered here.


Wow! You my friend, are a true friend. Great page indeed!
Thanks for sharing.

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