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Benjamin Franklin had the same relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, like Jefferson and Hancock, just like the relationship Niels Bohr had with the founders of Quantum Mechanics.

A) had the same relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, like Jefferson and Hancock, just like the relationship Niels Bohr had with
B) having a relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, such as Jefferson and Hancock, the same as the relationship Niels Bohr had with
C) was to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, such as Jefferson and Hancock, what Niels Bohr was to
D) was to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, like Jefferson and Hancock, just the same as Niels Bohr was to
E) had the same relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, such as Jefferson and Hancock, Niels Bohr having it to

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Benjamin Franklin had the same relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, like Jefferson and Hancock, just like the relationship Niels Bohr had with the founders of Quantum Mechanics.

A) had the same relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, like Jefferson and Hancock, just like the relationship Niels Bohr had with
B) having a relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, such as Jefferson and Hancock, the same as the relationship Niels Bohr had with
C) was to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, such as Jefferson and Hancock, what Niels Bohr was to
D) was to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, like Jefferson and Hancock, just the same as Niels Bohr was to
E) had the same relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, such as Jefferson and Hancock, Niels Bohr having it to


The correct idiom is "X is to Y what A is to B". Other errors are colored in red.

Answer: C
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Vyshak’s idiomatic route is quite impressive. A longer analysis would be:


A) had the same relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, like Jefferson and Hancock, just like the relationship Niels Bohr had with--- 'like Jefferson and Hancock' – is wrong because the two people are just examples of the younger members. As such, we must use the term 'such as' rather than 'like'.


B) having a relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, such as Jefferson and Hancock, the same as the relationship Niels Bohr had with – a fragment. No verb for the main clause.


C) was to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, such as Jefferson and Hancock, what Niels Bohr was to -- the best

D) was to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, like Jefferson and Hancock, just the same as Niels Bohr was to --- same error is in A

E) had the same relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, such as Jefferson and Hancock, Niels Bohr having it to –
It is not clear what or whom the modifier ‘Niels Bohr having it to” is trying to modify.

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In this question, we want to compare two relationships, the relationship of Franklin to the younger members of the Continental Congress, such as Jefferson and Hancock, and the relationship of Bohr to the founders of Quantum Mechanics, such as Schrödinger and Heisenberg. Essentially, the sentence is saying that these two relationships were similar (older man providing a guiding example to a group of younger men). What’s the idiomatic way to say this in English?

(A) “had the same relationship” . . . “just like the relationship” This is awkward and unidiomatic.

(B) “had a relationship” . . . “the same as the relationship” This is awkward, redundant, and unidiomatic.

(C) This is the correct idiom for comparing relationships:

A is to X what B is to Y.

Choice (C) follows this idiom perfectly.

(D) This choice starts out very good, but it replaces the second half of the idiom with “just the same as Niels Bohr was to.” This sounds awkward, and its emphasis on “just the same” is a bit illogical.

(E) similar to (A), this is awkward and unidiomatic.

The best answer is (C).
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A) had the same relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, like Jefferson and Hancock, just like the relationship Niels Bohr had with --> "like" is wrong, we need "such as"
B) having a relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, such as Jefferson and Hancock, the same as the relationship Niels Bohr had with --> having a... the same as xx had with... run on phrase, wrong
C) was to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, such as Jefferson and Hancock, what Niels Bohr was to --> mantains parallelism, RIGHT!
D) was to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, like Jefferson and Hancock, just the same as Niels Bohr was to --> "like" is wrong, we need "such as"
E) had the same relationship to many of the younger members of the Continental Congress, such as Jefferson and Hancock, Niels Bohr having it to --> "having it to..." is unidiomatic
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