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I think they count as energy.

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I'd say the Chevron, Exxon-Mobils also count as "tech", but probably slightly less impacted than the EE/CS/MEs.
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Ya they would be under the energy/petroleum group...it would definitely be smaller pool.
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or what sort of innovative, world-changing products come out of that company. In that sense, Microsoft is definitely slipping slowly...
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Very true, but also tainted by location. e.g. Yahoo have been very innovative in recent years in the mobile application and services space outside of the USA (probably one of the most used sites in Japan), so in the USA they have very low pedigree, but in Japan, they are still seen as very high pedigree.

I find it funny how the local reputation of the company affects it pedigree, and how different it can be across different regions. Moreover, how the general lack of awareness of how a company is doing at a global level rather than at a local level blinds many people to the actual pedigree of a company.

To quote some personal examples. When i worked at Symbian, no one knew who they were. I joined then when they were 1 year old. After a short while, Everyyone in Europe wanted to work for them because they were seen as high pedigree and dominating the mobile OS space (which they do). Like wise when I joined Nokia, almost everyone always asked questions about the company when they find out i work for them.. the only time it doesn`t happen is when I`m in N.America.

It`s 2 completley different markets...The USA and the rest of the world. e.g. RIM has high prestige in the USA, but ask any of my friends in Europe and they have never heard of them (Blackberry, yes, but RIM.. no). But it does make you think whether in the USA, a non-USA pedigree company affects their perception of a company. Afterall, the adcoms will most likely be localised rather than global.
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togafoot, I agree with what you're saying about the USA and the rest of the world market mentality, but I doubt the adcoms at the top schools would be so locally limited like many of us. They populate 30-40 % of each class with international students and spend the time learning about the schools those applicants apply from, the companies they work for, and what the country's educational system is like. I would be surprised if they did no research and didn't know that Yahoo is regarded highly in Japan, or that a company in Europe is high regarded.

Just my 2 cents.
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to be honest kryzak, i wouldn`t be surprised if it was an affect, afterall, they would be heavily influenced by local culture and local perceptions of pedigree. At the same time, B-School adcoms in Europe and Asia will also be biaised to some degree due to local influences. e.g. Someone working for QQ or Baidu in China will have more prestige in China. I very much doubt many people have even heard of QQ or Baidu in Europe or USA. Likewise in Japan Mixi holds more local pedigree.
(Local internet search companies and social networking companies incase no one knows what they are)
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where do you guys place telecom operators in this ??

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or what sort of innovative, world-changing products come out of that company. In that sense, Microsoft is definitely slipping slowly...

Very true, but also tainted by location. e.g. Yahoo have been very innovative in recent years in the mobile application and services space outside of the USA (probably one of the most used sites in Japan), so in the USA they have very low pedigree, but in Japan, they are still seen as very high pedigree.

I find it funny how the local reputation of the company affects it pedigree, and how different it can be across different regions. Moreover, how the general lack of awareness of how a company is doing at a global level rather than at a local level blinds many people to the actual pedigree of a company.

To quote some personal examples. When i worked at Symbian, no one knew who they were. I joined then when they were 1 year old. After a short while, Everyyone in Europe wanted to work for them because they were seen as high pedigree and dominating the mobile OS space (which they do). Like wise when I joined Nokia, almost everyone always asked questions about the company when they find out i work for them.. the only time it doesn`t happen is when I`m in N.America.

It`s 2 completley different markets...The USA and the rest of the world. e.g. RIM has high prestige in the USA, but ask any of my friends in Europe and they have never heard of them (Blackberry, yes, but RIM.. no). But it does make you think whether in the USA, a non-USA pedigree company affects their perception of a company. Afterall, the adcoms will most likely be localised rather than global.
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toga, definitely there will be an effect. Like you said, Yahoo's name in the US will probably have slightly less pedigree in a US school's adcom's eyes than Yahoo's name in an Asian school adcom's eyes. But what I'm trying to say is, the adcoms are generally much more well versed in international culture than your typical B-school student and alum, thus the bias is less than what we think it may be. :)
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kryzak..i notice that most b'schools dont have a significant number of people from telecom service providers, is there a bias against telecom?? would like to hear your thoughts and which companies are the pedigree in this area..

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toga, definitely there will be an effect. Like you said, Yahoo's name in the US will probably have slightly less pedigree in a US school's adcom's eyes than Yahoo's name in an Asian school adcom's eyes. But what I'm trying to say is, the adcoms are generally much more well versed in international culture than your typical B-school student and alum, thus the bias is less than what we think it may be. :)
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fres, by telecomm providers, do you mean companies like AT&T and Verizon? If so, those two are probably the best in the US. Togafoot can give you the best ones outside of the US.

If by telecommunications technology, in the US Qualcomm is generally highly regarded, and then the European/Japanese companies that make telecomm equipment are also pretty good (Nokia, Ericsson)

Maybe others can add more to this...
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fres, by telecomm providers, do you mean companies like AT&T and Verizon? If so, those two are probably the best in the US. Togafoot can give you the best ones outside of the US.

If by telecommunications technology, in the US Qualcomm is generally highly regarded, and then the European/Japanese companies that make telecomm equipment are also pretty good (Nokia, Ericsson)

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In the UK and I'll say most parts of Europe the intyerms of providers and technology the heavyweight and those that will certainly look good in the eyes of adcom are Vodafone, T Mobile and BT just my 2cents from the research I've been doing
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I'd say it's probably Samsung in Korea.....

Also, google is more geared toward com sci, network engineers for tech...
If someone can enlighten me as to how an IC design engineer fits into google's plan, it will be greatly appreciated. :-D
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Any thoughts on doing B-school right out of Teach For America? What sort of pedigree does it have? The schools seem interested in TFA alumni.
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TFA is well respected. I don't know how many TFA alumni apply, but I definitely know a few who get in.

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