Last visit was: 18 May 2026, 00:34 It is currently 18 May 2026, 00:34
Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
avatar
jmabach
Joined: 10 Jan 2018
Last visit: 30 Jun 2019
Posts: 7
Own Kudos:
Location: Afganistan
Schools: Haas '21
GRE 1: Q162 V161
GPA: 3.1
Schools: Haas '21
GRE 1: Q162 V161
Posts: 7
Kudos: 2
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
User avatar
pushpitkc
Joined: 26 Feb 2016
Last visit: 19 Feb 2025
Posts: 2,800
Own Kudos:
6,250
 [1]
Given Kudos: 47
Location: India
GPA: 3.12
Posts: 2,800
Kudos: 6,250
 [1]
Kudos
Add Kudos
1
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
User avatar
EMPOWERgmatRichC
User avatar
Major Poster
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Last visit: 31 Dec 2023
Posts: 21,777
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 450
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Expert
Expert reply
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Posts: 21,777
Kudos: 13,081
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
avatar
jmabach
Joined: 10 Jan 2018
Last visit: 30 Jun 2019
Posts: 7
Own Kudos:
Location: Afganistan
Schools: Haas '21
GRE 1: Q162 V161
GPA: 3.1
Schools: Haas '21
GRE 1: Q162 V161
Posts: 7
Kudos: 2
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
EMPOWERgmatRichC
Hi jmabach,

Based on what you've described about the 'limitations' in terms of how you can study, how were you taking your practice CATs? It does not sound as though you could have take a Full CAT in one sitting - and if you had to take your CATs in 'pieces', then those score results would have likely been 'inflated.'

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich

I took those under test like conditions, I even travelled to my parents hpiae for my last (710) cat to get into an unfamiliar-ish space. I just arrived overseas a few days ago.

My plan for taking CATs here is to take them when I am off work. Ill have to wake up early or take them after my shift. I take the test in quant/verbal/IR/essay order. If I am in a time crunch, I may have to skip IR and AWA, but I maxed out IR on my last gmat and breezed through AWA.
avatar
jmabach
Joined: 10 Jan 2018
Last visit: 30 Jun 2019
Posts: 7
Own Kudos:
Location: Afganistan
Schools: Haas '21
GRE 1: Q162 V161
GPA: 3.1
Schools: Haas '21
GRE 1: Q162 V161
Posts: 7
Kudos: 2
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
What I think os realistic based on my circumstances here is trying to find large banks of practice questions to work on throughout the day. And take a CAT every other week.
User avatar
EMPOWERgmatRichC
User avatar
Major Poster
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Last visit: 31 Dec 2023
Posts: 21,777
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 450
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Expert
Expert reply
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Posts: 21,777
Kudos: 13,081
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Hi jmabach,

When these types of score drops occur, the two likely "causes" involve either something that was unrealistic during practice or something that was surprising (or not accounted for) on Test Day. As such, I'd like to know a bit more about how you took your CATs:

When you took your CATs:
1) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
2) Did you take them at home?
3) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you plan to take your Official GMAT?
4) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
5) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: in an online forum or in a practice set)?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
avatar
jmabach
Joined: 10 Jan 2018
Last visit: 30 Jun 2019
Posts: 7
Own Kudos:
Location: Afganistan
Schools: Haas '21
GRE 1: Q162 V161
GPA: 3.1
Schools: Haas '21
GRE 1: Q162 V161
Posts: 7
Kudos: 2
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Rich, responses are below:

1) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?

-Yes. I take the test in Q/V/IR/AWA order. I scored an 8 on the IR on the GMAT I took as well.

2) Did you take them at home?

Yes. Minus one I took at work.

3) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you plan to take your Official GMAT?

Roughly. But I had a few appointments in the morning, whereas on my practice tests I usually slept in/relaxed before taking them.

4) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?

No.


5) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: in an online forum or in a practice set)?

No.
avatar
jmabach
Joined: 10 Jan 2018
Last visit: 30 Jun 2019
Posts: 7
Own Kudos:
Location: Afganistan
Schools: Haas '21
GRE 1: Q162 V161
GPA: 3.1
Schools: Haas '21
GRE 1: Q162 V161
Posts: 7
Kudos: 2
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Did some research and tried out some resources, and my plan is below. This is based upon 3-6 hours of studying daily, but with frequent interruptions due to my job.

Its a habit approach vs a specific plan.

Daily:
-Study MGMAT books, Kaplan 800, and MGMAT advanced, take notes on anything that I dont have 100% confidence on. Sprinkle in some idiom flashcards and some LSAT RC as needed.
-Do practice questions from GMAT club tests, forums, and veritas (Ill probably buy the on demand course, need some CATS anyway). Add OG as test gets closer. Do all five types, morning quant and afternoon verbal. Keep error log and update notes as needed with new concepts.

Weekly:
-Take GMAT club tests under test like conditions (found a library where I can get away once a week for a few hours).
-Redo inncorrect questions from error log.
-Review notes.

Bi-weekly:
-Take full mock (MGMAT, Veritas, and GMAC as test day gets closer) under test like conditions.
-Review mock and update notes as needed.

If you have any feedback, it would be appreciated. With everything I've read, seems like a consistent, disciplined approach is the way ahead for me.

Thanks.

Posted from my mobile device
User avatar
EMPOWERgmatRichC
User avatar
Major Poster
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Last visit: 31 Dec 2023
Posts: 21,777
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 450
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Expert
Expert reply
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Posts: 21,777
Kudos: 13,081
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Hi jmabach,

Your Study Plan sounds reasonable, so you should proceed as planned. Based on your prior work, there are some things you should keep in mind about how you take your future CATs though:

Test Day is a rather specific 'event' - the details are specific and they matter, so you have to train as best as you can for all of them. The more realistic you can make your CATs, the more likely the score results are to be accurate. The more you deviate, the more "inflated" your practice scores can become - and that's what happened here. If you ever skip sections, take the CATs at home, take them at different times of day, etc., you aren't properly training for the FULL GMAT 'experience.'

Test Day involves a variety of really specific steps and parameters (including steps before the Test even begins - such as leaving your home, traveling, etc.). Every factor matters, including the psychological ones. Now that you've taken the Official GMAT, you know the exact details about what goes into Test Day. You better prepare for your retake, you have to better mimic all of those aspects during practice.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
User avatar
SIMONexamPAL
User avatar
examPAL Representative
Joined: 14 Dec 2017
Last visit: 12 Nov 2018
Posts: 15
Own Kudos:
Posts: 15
Kudos: 1
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Hi,

It seems like our course would be a great fit for you.

www.exampal.com
User avatar
snehal88
Joined: 23 Feb 2018
Last visit: 11 Apr 2018
Posts: 9
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 8
Posts: 9
Kudos: 5
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
you can try e-gmat, I heard a lot of good reviews.
avatar
jmabach
Joined: 10 Jan 2018
Last visit: 30 Jun 2019
Posts: 7
Own Kudos:
Location: Afganistan
Schools: Haas '21
GRE 1: Q162 V161
GPA: 3.1
Schools: Haas '21
GRE 1: Q162 V161
Posts: 7
Kudos: 2
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
I have been using this strategy for 2x weeks. I found a library here that very closely replicates a testing center (computers and desks with dividers). I installed the GMAC software again retook test one. I scored a 730, so slight improvement. Expected since I recognized a few of the questions from a month and a half ago. But what I really noticed was how much more stressed I was during this test. Much more distracting to test in a place you don't study. Thanks for the tip!
Moderators:
201 posts
General GMAT Forum Moderator
474 posts