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Finally I got my ding from IR :(
I'm sad and did not really understand why (considering other invited profiles and the level of my application), but anyway it is time to move on.

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Really sorry to hear that Pablo. I sincerely hoped for you to get an invite.
I'm sure there are better things to come.
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Earlier in the mail wherein they mentioned that the GMAT should be completed by 20th July, I wrote back that I wont be able to complete the GMAT until the end of August as I am sailing onboard ship and dont have access to shore or good internet to give my GMAT. JM wrote to me that she has given exceptional extension until the end of August. I believe if she has accepted it, they still will consider candidates without GMAT. However, even I haven't heard from her yet.

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I got an email saying the following in summary:

We can neither accept nor reject you since you didn't submit your GMAT scores. Go do it and share with us the score then we will tell you the reapplication process without redoing it from scratch. What does that mean? Is there even a hope to share with them my GMAT score when I do it next month? It doesn't look like they will consider me for Jan though.
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In the context of the rejections owing to the GMAT/GRE, I am just wondering how fair is it vis-a-vis applicants who submitted their applications without a score. Ideally applicants with a strong profile should've also been allowed to retake the GRE/GMAT before 20th July in case they were willing to try and secure a better score.

Just some thoughts since this year INSEAD did evaluate a set of applications without the score.

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I think it’s a scam ! Most people without gmat will be rejected anyway
That’s how they got more people applying but you still won’t get accepted without a gmat score so it’s a win win !
Sorry if I sound like procrastinating

First, I am so stressed for you guys. I am not waiting for anything, but the anticipation from all of you is making me nervous.. so best of luck everyone!

The score is such a small component of INSEAD's evaluation. I think it would be false to say that you got dinged only from your test score. I think it would be important to revisit your application to understand how you define leadership and how you are presenting it in your essays. However, I might be completely wrong and speaking out of my a*s, I haven't been accepted :shh:

I do have a theory about the admission for 21D... not sure if it's valid or not, but in the spirit of getting people's mind off invites and dings, here it is:

We currently know that:
1. Higher number of applicants this year
2. GRE/GMAT is not required to apply
3. a LOT of deferred students

What I am assuming, from chatting with folks working in "popular" roles (ie Consulting, CPG,...)
1. They want a 1 year break from work
2. They will probably go back to the same company.

Let's put ourself in the shoes of one of these consultants. I am looking for a year off, fun, party, travel etc.. Applied in the previous round and BAM, COVID happens. Will my session be delayed? Will it be online? I don't want to stay home and listen to classes on my computer; let's defer to 21D.
My theory is that in there's a lot of consultants/people with "common profile" who are in the 21D deferred pool, so in order to create a diverse class, the AOs had to reject a lot of folks, coming from the consulting background or other overrepresented sectors, with really great scores. That would explains the number of rejections for people with great profiles.
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Got my ding from JM as well. Good luck to anyone yet to hear!
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I got an email saying the following in summary:

We can neither accept nor reject you since you didn't submit your GMAT scores. Go do it and share with us the score then we will tell you the reapplication process without redoing it from scratch. What does that mean? Is there even a hope to share with them my GMAT score when I do it next month? It doesn't look like they will consider me for Jan though.

I believe that they might consider your application with R3 applicants. Not sure though. But atleast some hope so do share your gmat score and all the best :)

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In the context of the rejections owing to the GMAT/GRE, I am just wondering how fair is it vis-a-vis applicants who submitted their applications without a score. Ideally applicants with a strong profile should've also been allowed to retake the GRE/GMAT before 20th July in case they were willing to try and secure a better score.

Just some thoughts since this year INSEAD did evaluate a set of applications without the score.

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I think it’s a scam ! Most people without gmat will be rejected anyway
That’s how they got more people applying but you still won’t get accepted without a gmat score so it’s a win win !
Sorry if I sound like procrastinating

First, I am so stressed for you guys. I am not waiting for anything, but the anticipation from all of you is making me nervous.. so best of luck everyone!

The score is such a small component of INSEAD's evaluation. I think it would be false to say that you got dinged only from your test score. I think it would be important to revisit your application to understand how you define leadership and how you are presenting it in your essays. However, I might be completely wrong and speaking out of my a*s, I haven't been accepted :shh:

I do have a theory about the admission for 21D... not sure if it's valid or not, but in the spirit of getting people's mind off invites and dings, here it is:

We currently know that:
1. Higher number of applicants this year
2. GRE/GMAT is not required to apply
3. a LOT of deferred students

What I am assuming, from chatting with folks working in "popular" roles (ie Consulting, CPG,...)
1. They want a 1 year break from work
2. They will probably go back to the same company.

Let's put ourself in the shoes of one of these consultants. I am looking for a year off, fun, party, travel etc.. Applied in the previous round and BAM, COVID happens. Will my session be delayed? Will it be online? I don't want to stay home and listen to classes on my computer; let's defer to 21D.
My theory is that in there's a lot of consultants/people with "common profile" who are in the 21D deferred pool, so in order to create a diverse class, the AOs had to reject a lot of folks, coming from the consulting background or other overrepresented sectors, with really great scores. That would explains the number of rejections for people with great profiles.

Agree with you on everything that you're stating. I was referring to specifically those dings where the AOs have pointed out that the GMAT/GRE score is the only aspect of the application that is holding INSEAD back.
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Dinged. AO is EL. Said my score is too low. I have the worst luck with European schools

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Going to Tuck then?
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In the context of the rejections owing to the GMAT/GRE, I am just wondering how fair is it vis-a-vis applicants who submitted their applications without a score. Ideally applicants with a strong profile should've also been allowed to retake the GRE/GMAT before 20th July in case they were willing to try and secure a better score.

Just some thoughts since this year INSEAD did evaluate a set of applications without the score.

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I think it’s a scam ! Most people without gmat will be rejected anyway
That’s how they got more people applying but you still won’t get accepted without a gmat score so it’s a win win !
Sorry if I sound like procrastinating

First, I am so stressed for you guys. I am not waiting for anything, but the anticipation from all of you is making me nervous.. so best of luck everyone!

The score is such a small component of INSEAD's evaluation. I think it would be false to say that you got dinged only from your test score. I think it would be important to revisit your application to understand how you define leadership and how you are presenting it in your essays. However, I might be completely wrong and speaking out of my a*s, I haven't been accepted :shh:

I do have a theory about the admission for 21D... not sure if it's valid or not, but in the spirit of getting people's mind off invites and dings, here it is:

We currently know that:
1. Higher number of applicants this year
2. GRE/GMAT is not required to apply
3. a LOT of deferred students

What I am assuming, from chatting with folks working in "popular" roles (ie Consulting, CPG,...)
1. They want a 1 year break from work
2. They will probably go back to the same company.

Let's put ourself in the shoes of one of these consultants. I am looking for a year off, fun, party, travel etc.. Applied in the previous round and BAM, COVID happens. Will my session be delayed? Will it be online? I don't want to stay home and listen to classes on my computer; let's defer to 21D.
My theory is that in there's a lot of consultants/people with "common profile" who are in the 21D deferred pool, so in order to create a diverse class, the AOs had to reject a lot of folks, coming from the consulting background or other overrepresented sectors, with really great scores. That would explains the number of rejections for people with great profiles.

Agree with you on everything that you're stating. I was referring to specifically those dings where the AOs have pointed out that the GMAT/GRE score is the only aspect of the application that is holding INSEAD back.

I think their scores are in range....So I think that they might normally be great candidates, but because of the overrepresentation of some profile in this round, they might need more than than "normal" score to get in.
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I got a rejection letter today. So sad. I put in so much effort into applying and I think I have a pretty strong profile (5 years in consulting 660 GMAT). Sad thing was I only applied to INSEAD because I really wanted to go there. Guess I have to wait till next application round and expand the number of school to apply to. Sad.

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Is there anyone whose AO is JM and still awaiting for the results?

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Is there anyone whose AO is JM and still awaiting for the results?

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Me. 4:40 pm in France :roll:
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Is there anyone whose AO is JM and still awaiting for the results?

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Yes. Still awaiting from JM.
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Is there anyone whose AO is JM and still awaiting for the results?

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Yes. Still awaiting from JM.

Someone I know too. Waiting for the mail from JM. Once I see an update here, I'll get back to him immediately!
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Still waiting for message from AN

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Is there anyone whose AO is JM and still awaiting for the results?

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India. 8:45 PM. Still waiting for a reply from JM. This whole wait thing feels like I am on a fire spit being slowly roasted!

P.S. pabpinor I'm sorry. I was rooting for you. You have been very helpful. Thank you and all the best! :)
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Just got it guys! Interview invite from JM. Good luck to all who are still waiting.

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