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Can't argue with you there. Best of luck to you. Crossing my fingers for Duke as well!

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I share some of the concerns xzeppelin mentioned, especially the one on getting scholarship.

But, since I am local, I think mentioning the fact that duke is the only school I am applying, doesn't hurt.

Anyways, who knows, let's see what happens, fingers crossed.

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Thanks. Hope we both get in.

Seems we have similar backgrounds too with interests in healthcare and entrepreneurship.

I work for a medical device startup.

Same to you travis! I work for a social purpose organization now but most of my experience is in hospital admin. You doing HSM?

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My understanding is that R3 has no scholarship money from the schools. Either way, that is a good problem to have in the future because that is only a concern after you get in.

Good luck with the app.

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Thanks. Hope we both get in.

Seems we have similar backgrounds too with interests in healthcare and entrepreneurship.

I work for a medical device startup.

Same to you travis! I work for a social purpose organization now but most of my experience is in hospital admin. You doing HSM?

Yes, doing HSM, I made a big deal out of HSM in the 3rd essay, :-)

Now, I am wondering how do they pool the applicants. I am Chinese but I went to graduate school and work here in US. I am wondering who do I compete with. Students in healthcare or students from China.

Oh well, let me proofread one more time and submit the damn thing.

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travisz

Thanks. Hope we both get in.

Seems we have similar backgrounds too with interests in healthcare and entrepreneurship.

I work for a medical device startup.

Same to you travis! I work for a social purpose organization now but most of my experience is in hospital admin. You doing HSM?

Yes, doing HSM, I made a big deal out of HSM in the 3rd essay, :-)

You never know with R3! I wonder how much of the class is filled up by now.

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07 Mar 2012, 22:54

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Since Duke is the only school to which you are applying, make sure to let them know that Duke is the one and only school to which you would like to go this coming Fall semester. As an R3 applicant, it is very important for you to stand out. Most of the other R3 applicants are applying because they weren't quite successful in the other rounds. By telling Duke that they're your #1 school, you separate yourself from the rest of the pack.

Good luck!

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Thanks stripes. I definitely mentioned that they're the only school I am applying to this year in my 'why Duke' essay. I just submitted a few minutes ago. The fingers are crossed. Do you know whether alumni referrals matter in the process? I have one from a friend and alum who graduated two years ago and got the nifty app reduction fee.

Good luck to all submitting out there!!

I hate to disagree with threestripes as he obviously knows his stuff, but I have to wonder whether mentioning in the essay that you are "only" applying to Duke is a wise strategy or not. I'm wondering how many people state this dishonestly in their essays, i.e. saying that they are only applying to Duke when in actuality they are applying to other schools, and if it is something that's common if that might lead adcoms to be suspicious of the candidate's authenticity. Even if it doesn't lead them to be suspicious, by telling them that you are only applying to Duke, I'd have to think that would greatly lessen your chance of getting scholarship or fellowship funding as well. Since they would know that no other schools are competing for you, there would be no incentive for them to offer any aid.

On top of all that, I have to wonder if only applying for one school might not reflect positively on the candidate. After all, part of recruiting for jobs is getting your name out to a lot of different companies and tossing your net wide, considering many different paths and opportunities. If you were to recruit for McKinsey and ONLY for McKinsey...well then what would happen if you didn't get the offer? Schools undoubtedly want to accept candidates that will recruit well and get great job offers.

In short, I think there's a lot of drawbacks to showing "too much love" for just one school. Maybe I'm overthinking it though? I know you've already submitted the ap so it's a moot point, but I think this is an interesting discussion to consider for other future candidates.

Hey xzeppelin, there's no need to hate disagreeing with me. This is what this forum is for - healthy discussions/debates. Besides, I would much rather be in a class where my classmates challenge me to defend my arguments rather than simply nod in agreement every time I say something.

You absolutely made some valid points, so I would like to offer my rebuttal now.

Regarding your comments on appearing deceitful, I don't see why an applicant should not state this if it's the truth anyway. If the applicant genuinely feels that Duke is the only school for them, it will be very evident in the essays that they are being genuine. These feelings cannot be fabricated easily so the professional readers should be able to weed out the pretenders.

As far as the scholarship is concerned, we are talking about R3 here. At this point, pretty much all the scholarships have already been handed out. If they're lucky, there will be some money left from the admits from the earlier rounds who opted to go to a different school. But there won't be much left. Therefore, it is more important to focus more on getting in than gaming the system in order to gain a little bit of a chance at getting some money. Fuqua will be aware of what their yield will most likely be by the time they make the R3 decisions, so they might prioritize those who are more likely to matriculate over those who are worthy of scholarships. Therefore, those who have explicitly stated that Duke is their #1 school, regardless of whether they applied to 1 or 10 schools in R3, will have an edge. At the end of the day, the main goal is to get in. If it comes with a scholarship, then great. If not, at least they still achieved their goal.

If an applicant knows for sure that Duke is the only school for them, then it doesn't make sense for them to apply to a different school so that they could go there in case the Duke application doesn't pan out. Why waste their time applying to a school that they don't want to go to to begin with? All the applicant needs to do is clearly convey why they think there is no other school that fits what they are looking for. If done right, this could be what would ultimately lead to their acceptance. I think the McKinsey example is out of scope. Applying for a job is not the same as applying to b-school. A job applicant who gets turned down by their dream company will still need a job, but a b-school applicant who is rejected by their dream school can choose to just continue working for their current company and pursue a different path towards their ultimate goal in life. Therefore, applying to just one company cannot be compared with applying to just one b-school.

I agree with you on the giving too much love comment though. It's one thing to tell them that they are your number one school, but it's another to patronize them by telling them that they are the only school that can help you succeed in life or something to that effect. It's always good to do things in moderation, so it's better to be cool with your approach instead of acting like a desperate stalker who cannot live without their one true love. Like Grumppee17 said, there's an art to doing this, so the applicant should be careful with their approach.

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Haha...yeah he definitely goes the extra mile for the community, and it wouldn't be the same without him for sure. I guess I would agree that round 3 is a totally different beast from Rounds 1/2, that scholarships aren't really the issue there anyway, and that you really have nothing to lose in round 3 by being more forthcoming in getting the school to assign one of its few remaining seats to you. After all, in round 3 you are not only competing with other round 3 candidates but with everyone who was on the waitlist from rounds 1 and 2, and they are obviously strong candidates as well. Another advantage of that strategy could be avoiding the mark of the "desperate" round 3 candidate, showing your confidence and determination by saying "I know this is exactly what I want, that it's round 3 is just a coincidence and I don't want to be lumped in with the rest of those guys". Risky move perhaps, but could pay off. I never even considered round 3 during my own applications...so I'm in virgin territory here speculating about it :lol:

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Hah - its not that hard to reply using my phone. Autocorrect helps me get the job done. :D

I think we both agree that not only is it not exactly the best strategy in R1 and R2, but there's also the risk of either looking desperate or deceitful regardless of when one submits their app. I guess what I'm saying is that if Duke is really your #1 school, it wouldn't hurt you to let AdCom know that. There's no reason to dedicate an entire essay on just that though.

P.S. Just to clarify, I didn't recommend to the R3 applicants to mention that Duke is the one and only school that they are applying to this year. I just said to make it clear to AdCom that Duke is their absolute first choice if that is the truth. I'm not sure how that got added into the discussion.

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In for round three. Male, 29 (at matriculation), 740 (49 quant, 41 verbal), work in media/law.

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In for round three. Male, 29 (at matriculation), 740 (49 quant, 41 verbal), work in media/law.

When did you get your notification?

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In for round three. Male, 29 (at matriculation), 740 (49 quant, 41 verbal), work in media/law.

When did you get your notification?

I believe he means that he submitted his application within the R3 deadline (which was yesterday). Not that he got admitted in R3 (kind of impossible, given that R2 applicants haven't heard yet).

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Submitted my application for R3 as well. Good luck to everybody!

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In for round 3 pool as well.

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R1 waitlister here that was just accepted to Duke's MPP program at the Sanford School. This ought to make for an interesting waitlist update because it allows me to start at Fuqua in the Fall of 2012 -or- 2013.

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Hey guys,

I just submitted my application in R3. I am wondering if there are things I could do to increases my chances of getting accepted. I saw some people asking about alumni recommendation, how do you do it? Do you ask the alumni to send in a personal letter?

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travisz - When I was researching and completing my application I met and stayed in touch with a Fuqua alum. After I submitted, she offered to send a note to the Admissions Committee on my behalf. I don't think it's poor form (given you're in the competitive Round 3 bucket) to ask an alum to email the AdCom about your candidacy. That said, as Threestripes pointed out in an earlier post - the alum recommendation will be more effective if he/she has concrete examples of your work. And, to be honest, the more senior the alum is, the better.

Good luck!

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I agree with HopefullyMBA. I applied Round 3 as well and got an alum referral from a friend I graduated with from college. She graduated from fuqua two years ago. I'm not sure how the referral works though; I know she submitted something three weeks ago and then I qualified for an application reduction fee which was nice. There was no recommendation letter though.