Added program info to first post. Please continue Consortium Fall 2010 discussion in this thread - shadowsjc ROLL CALL PAGE UPDATED The Consortium for Graduate Study in Management is the country’s preeminent organization for promoting diversity and inclusion in American business. Through an annual competition, The Consortium awards merit-based, full-tuition fellowships to America’s best and brightest candidates. In conjunction with our member schools, sponsoring companies, and our elite group of MBA students and alumni, The Consortium has built a forty year legacy of fostering inclusion and changing the ethnic and cultural face of American business. Official site : https://www.cgsm.org Related threads/links: any-consortium-applicants-56951.html Transcript of Consortium chat with CGSM and school adcoms: https://www.accepted.com/chat/transcript ... rtium.aspx --- Approximate # of students who are accepted into the CGSM: 480 Approximate # of fellowship offers extended to CGSM members: 330 2009-2010 Deadlines : R1: November 15 2009 R2: January 5 2010 -- Member Schools: Carnegie Mellon University, Tepper School of Business Applicants: maxtor seanyc Cornell University, The Johnson School Applicants: ATCer classof2012 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) mbahopeful2010 MBAYear orky56 ssantos78 What2Do15 Dartmouth College, Tuck School of Business Applicants: 2012mbahopeful alwaysmiling ATCer bschooler (CGSM Fellowship recipient) classof2012 dli1981 HeresHoping ibrokeit007 MBAYear RonMexico ssantos78 Emory University, Goizueta Business School Applicants: Case2010 maxtor MBAbound10 (CGSM fellowship recipient) nefertiti (CGSM fellowship recipient) orky56 seanyc ssantos78 undecided2012 Indiana University-Bloomington, Kelley School of Business Applicants: alwaysmiling Case2010 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) dli1981 EmElleDub gravity1914 honeygirl (CGSM Fellowship recipient) mbahopeful2010 niceguy22 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) orky56 undecided2012 What2Do15 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor, Stephen M. Ross School of Business Applicants: 2012dreams alws (CGSM Fellowship recipient) cannedmilkman (CGSM Fellowship recipient) dli1981 drmang7 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) EmElleDub gravity1914 idcandy (CGSM Fellowship recipient) JoeMahmah jumpshot maxtor mbachallenge mbahopeful2010 Mystik742 nefertiti theoutlawfades undecided2012 What2Do15 (CGSM Fellowship recipient) New York University, Leonard N. Stern School of Business Applicants: 2012dreams 2012mbahopeful alwaysmiling AspiringSloanie bschooler Case2010 classof2012 drmang7 giggles2411 HeresHoping ibrokeit007 idcandy JoeMahmah Jupitr84 mbatime Mystik742 onlyneed1 SCBooth seanyc ssantos78 theoutlawfades University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Kenan-Flagler Business School Applicants: undecided2012 University of Rochester, Simon Graduate School of Business University of Southern California, Marshall School of Business Applicants: Case2010 JoeMahmah Jupitr84 lakai777 seanyc ssantos78 What2Do15 The University of Texas at Austin, McCombs School of Business Applicants: alwaysmiling dli1981 gravity1914 jmoney JoeMahmah lakai777 maxtor MBAbound10 nefertiti RonMexico TxTransPlant University of Virginia, Darden School of Business Applicants: bschooler ibrokeit007 Jupitr84 jumpshot lakai777 MBAbound10 RonMexico theoutlawfades TxTransPlant Washington University in St. Louis, Olin Business School Applicants: AspiringSloanie Case2010 orky56 MBAbound10 What2Do15 University of Wisconsin-Madison, Wisconsin School of Business Applicants: gscougar (CGSM Fellowship recipient) jumpshot undecided2012 Yale University, Yale School of Management Applicants: 2012mbahopeful alwaysmiling alws ATCer cannedmilkman classof2012 drmang7 HeresHoping ibrokeit007 JoeMahmah jmoney mbahopeful2010 MBAYear SCBooth shadowsjc ssantos78 theoutlawfades TxTransPlant zippy10 --- I'm wondering whether applying through the Consortium is a good idea. I'm somewhat confused on the review process - Do adcoms treat these applications differently than the general pool? Do adcoms read the core consortium essays (in addition to the school core essays) as part of its review process? Should I go to the traditional application route? For example, my consortium mission essay is not that strong, albeit some experience. The mission of The Consortium is to enhance diversity in business education and leadership by helping to reduce the serious under representation of African Americans, Hispanic Americans and Native Americans in both our member schools' enrollments and the ranks of management. What have you done in your business, academic or personal life to demonstrate commitment to this mission? Please provide specific example of your involvement, actions and results.

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drmang7

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22 Mar 2010, 21:48

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Is anyone deciding between attending Ross with CSGM fellowship and Stern? If so, what are your deciding factors in pushing you toward one school or the other?

drmang7 and I are both also facing the same decision.

In the end, Ross has an answer for almost every argument I can make for NYU. For me, the academic experience is the only "big" difference, and while Stern offers more specialized learning, Ross offers renowned broad wholistic learning. To be honest, when I first began my application process, I had ranked Ross first, but by the time I finished, I had been sold on Stern's specialized learning, and ranked them first instead. If they were both the same price, I'd probably be choosing Stern, but when I ask myself if the Stern's specialized learning is worth paying so much more money (both in terms of tuition/fees and cost of living difference)...let's just say I'm having trouble convincing myself that it is.

Completely agree with you. I feel the exact same way. I even started with NYU at #1 but after visiting Ross, it shot up in my book to compete for that top spot.

As idcandy mentioned, I am also in the exact same predicament. For me, the biggest factor is not having debt. If you flew to NYC every weekend for an internship/job search for 2 years, it would still cost less than 100k. Though this is an extreme example, it gets the point across, that we can have enormous flexibility when it comes to finding a job.

Stern was my #1 as well. I wonder why so many people are in our boat. Did Stern give out very few fellowships? I honestly am surprised at the number of people who got CGSM fellowships at Ross. Mainly this is because Ross is a great great school and has enormous prestige in the midwest. Not to say NYU isn't fantastic as well, but regionally and possibly nationally I think Ross takes the cake here.

PM me if you 3 want to start a more in-depth discussion. I'll be at the GBR as well.

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23 Mar 2010, 05:34

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It's Tuesday and given the hoopla last week about the official Consortium letters, I am a bit surprised that very few people (regulars/lurkers) have posted receiving theirs. Are folks still waiting/too relieved to post anything/already too busy preparing for OP?

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23 Mar 2010, 07:10

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Lurker here...

I too am a little disappointed that there hasn't been more confirmation on receiving anything from the Consortium.

I am one of those admitted to Stern whose admittance package was a bit lighter than I was hoping and am chomping at the bit to hear something from the Consortium (although I am sensing that I am probably not a fellow)

Is anyone else feeling a little beaten up by this whole process? I mean, for how much money and effort we put in on the front end between the app fees, school visits, essays, testing, informational interviewing, etc... I was hoping for a little more than lofty (at times, completely false) expectations on when I would get complete decisions from schools. While I am amped to be accepted, I am a little underwhelmed also!

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23 Mar 2010, 07:19

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Hi all! I received the Consortium letter in the mail yesterday! It's official, I'll be attending Kelley in the fall. This process has been long and tumultuous. At times, I felt like giving up on the whole thing, but I'm a true believer in "everything happens for a reason." For those still waiting, don't lose hope. I believe some folks recieved letters on Friday and I got mine yesterday. You too, can still receive the confirmation letter shortly. The letter was dated March 16th but I know it did not go out on that day.

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Originally posted by idcandy on 23 Mar 2010, 07:35.
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I wonder why so many people are in our boat. Did Stern give out very few fellowships? I honestly am surprised at the number of people who got CGSM fellowships at Ross. Mainly this is because Ross is a great great school and has enormous prestige in the midwest. Not to say NYU isn't fantastic as well, but regionally and possibly nationally I think Ross takes the cake here.

This is entirely speculation, but...I wonder if Ross is just in a better financial situation in the current economy. I read somewhere (sorry, I can't find the link now) that Ross has one of the largest endowments of any US business school (public or private) - according to BW, the endowment is $316 million.

On the other hand, I wonder if money has gotten tighter at Stern lately, especially - since there are so many Sternies in finance - if a relatively large proportion of their finance-industry alumns have suffered layoffs or paycuts in the last couple of years...again, this is just wild speculation, but every time I hear of another CGSM applicant who ranked Stern higher than the school that offered them the fellowship, I feel there might be some truth to it.

Or, Stern could just give out less fellowships :-P

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23 Mar 2010, 08:27

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I also received my letter from the Consortium. It is official, I'm headed to Ross. I am now awaiting the arrival of my Ross info binder. I expect it via UPS within the next few hours. After I square that away, I can begin gearing up for my trip to Ann Arbor (GBR) and then OP. Good luck to all and I look forward to catching up with many of you very soon.

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23 Mar 2010, 08:39

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I sent my deposit to Stern....anyone else headed to a school w/o a fellowship? I feel like i'm the only one

Case2010

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23 Mar 2010, 08:46

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Lurker here...

I too am a little disappointed that there hasn't been more confirmation on receiving anything from the Consortium.

Ok maybe I am getting this all wrong. But how will a self-described luker, a bona fide resident of "Lukerville" be "disappointed" about reduced traffic here? You see, maybe a few folks decided to move to 123 W. Main Street, Lukerville, a block away from yours :lol:

. The below is a funny rant on another gmatclub forum :-D

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ok. warning. rant to follow:

is anyone else annoyed-to-pissedoff about the late posters in your bschool threads? im starting to see some and im expecting therell be alot more of them in the coming days. the ones that show up just before final decisions come out? or even worse the day of or the day after w/ an admit? specifically the ones that profess to be long time lurkers? that dont contribute sht to the thread in terms of knowledge, pain or laughter? that dont even fill out their profile so they can at least be remotely useful? who just think they can just browse through and soak up our collective knowledge for no price of admission?

i say they should get their posts **expletive** deleted. do us a favor selfish newbies, stay wherever you were as an observer during our collective bschool process (it is the internet after all) but cry or rejoice in your own obscurity thank you very much. to the people that actually just found us, welcome and please fill out your side profile.

ok. this PSA is done.

Not that it applies to lurkers here :lol:

but wouldn't it be nice if all lurkers post more....

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23 Mar 2010, 09:20

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I just received my information binder from Ross. Good looking material. I guess the company that they outsourced the work to deserves some props.

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23 Mar 2010, 10:33

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Received my information from the Consortium. As I was expecting, I got the fellowship to Carnegie Mellon.

I am a little conflicted, but pretty sure. I think I am going to turn it down for MIT, but its hard to actually tell someone you would prefer to pay for school instead of taking a full ride ... but I going to MIT has been a dream of mine since undergrad (Software Background).

Case2010

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23 Mar 2010, 10:41

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Go with your dreams bro! Do what you'd love to do. You'd never regret it! Congrats :-D

mbahopeful2010

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23 Mar 2010, 11:02

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I've been reading some of the responses and I can agree with so many of you about all the confusion.

I'm fortunate to have been accepted to 3 out of the 4 schools to which I applied. I received the Consortium fellowship for my #1 school. However, my #2 (which is actually ranked higher nationally) has come in with a competitive offer. Though it's not a full ride, it offers some unique opportunities for leadership.

Any advice? I've been trying to make sense of all of this - and while I feel that leaving the MBA near debt-free is important, having the long-term access to a wider national network and more recognized "stamp" will make up for the stress from these loans. Please help. :cry:

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23 Mar 2010, 11:42

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Do you mind mentioning the names of the schools? That will be helpful in helping you....

theoutlawfades

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23 Mar 2010, 11:50

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What schools are you deciding between? Are you talking ranked higher nationally by one spot or by multiple spots? Also, what are your career ambitions? Some schools while better ranked nationally, may not be the right fit for your desired career path.

Any info you can provide will help those who would like to respond give you better advice. Thanks! :-)

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24 Mar 2010, 05:20

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For roll call purposes, I'm off the waitlist at Ross and I'm in!

What2Do15

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24 Mar 2010, 06:26

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@ Undecided: CONGRATS!! I'm sure that's a great feeling. Ross does an outstanding job of connecting the admitted students to other incoming students as well as resources needed during matriculation. Enjoy.

So does that seal the deal for you? Hope to see you at GBR.

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I wish it did seal the deal but unfortunately I didn't receive any money from them. So, for right now I'm leaning towards Indiana from whom I received the consortium fellowship. And just my luck their admit weekends are the same weekend.

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24 Mar 2010, 08:15

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Oh wow. Yeah, that does cramp you up. Obviously I can't decide for you, but I will say that from what I know, Kelley is a great program. I got dinged there so I can't give you much personal insight, but like Ross it has a great reputation in the midwest. Also, the idea of leaving school debt free (or close to it) was a big deal for me. I'm at a place where I want to hit the ground running after school and maybe even start a business, so shaking the debt is important. Congrats on the admit to Ross, but a full ride at Kelley can compete with almost any offer out there. Either way, I'm sure we'll cross paths at OP, or Ross in the fall if you decided to make that move. Good luck and enjoy the process.

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24 Mar 2010, 08:21

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Exactly! Both are great programs, but having full tuition at Indiana and UNC, not sure I could pass up either for the brand recognition of Ross (as much as I love them). Especially since I want to go into marketing, Indiana is awesome. So, I'll definitely see you at OP. Have fun at GBR!