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# Calling all Fall 2010 Consortium Applicants (merged)

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26 Mar 2010, 05:29
Any waitlisted people here ... I think I may be the only one on this forum waitlisted at CGSM schools.
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26 Mar 2010, 07:34
has anyone heard of any "non-special case" people slipping through? such as a female who has a few EC's (nothing spectacular) that help urm's...

just wondering if it would be worth my time to apply. there are a few member schools that are ranked around 5-8 on my list of schools under consideration.

Everyone's story is different. "Nothing special" could seem like a very compelling and special story to someone else. I know at least one person who felt their story was not worthy of the Consortium, but as they refined it and thought about it, they ended up presenting a very compelling story and being granted membership.

That being said, it cannot hurt to apply through the Consortium. You do not have to be accepted to the Consortium to be accepted to its member schools - even if you apply through the Consortium. Here is a post from September that explains a little better:

lsuguy7 wrote:
I'd definitely go The Consortium route. I know people who didn't have a great mission statement essay and were awarded full tuition through the school without Consortium Membership. Basically, it's a no risk way to go.

I'd be happy to help you with your mission statement or discuss the process more thoroughly with you.

Here are the outcomes of the admissions process
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1. Not accepted by any members schools
2. Accepted by a member school with no money and no admission to CGSM
3. Accepted by a member school w/money and no admission to CGSM
4. Accepted by a member school - no money - admission to CGSM
5. Accepted by a member school - some money - admission to CGSM
6. Accepted by a member school - full money - admission to CGSM

obviously there are some other scenarios where multiple schools can offer you money but not a CGSM fellowship to tempt you away from your higher choice.

-Disclosure- I'm a CGSM Fellow at Ross.

You might take a look at the first page or so of this thread for some more discussion on this topic. Also, I believe the accepted.com chat linked from the original post will address your question as well. If you have any other questions about it, or want to discuss it further, please PM me or we can start a new thread (this thread has shifted to talk of adcom decisions, orientation program, etc - and rightfully so).

Is it too soon to start up a "Calling all Fall 2011 Consortium Applicants" thread?!
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26 Mar 2010, 08:24
"Heck, some people are not comfortable sharing a room with a good friend" So true. But for real tho, OP is a great opportunity to get started before you start school. In addition the membership benefits, free travel and lodging, spectacular location etc...etc (idcandy, you should at least glance thru your manual ), the crux for me is the opportunity to start networking with top-tier recruiters AND classmates even before starting school. My Hoosier host at Kelley got an internship offer at his OP! Imagine how much relief that would be during these times. Of course, you can (and I think, should -to hone your skills--) also compete with other students for internships (he did) at your school but you come in at least a step ahead. But even if there was no OP, I dont know about you guys, but the opportunity of getting a full ride at C-schools (Ultra Elite, Elite and Near Elite: all top tier) is by itself very generous.

sorry if this question has already been answered, but this thread is 38 pages long and i didn't have time to search the whole thing. am i eligible to apply through the consortium if i am female, but not one of those underrepresented minority groups? i tried looking on their website, but it was really vague about who qualifies.

username123, as others have noted, you should apply and put forth your best foot (When I started my app process, I did not fully realize the strength of my experiences/WE etc --especially as a career changer-- but when I started to put everyting together, it turned out impressive). I know of at least one person on this thread: JoeMahmah who is also non-URM. Why not reach out to him? Or just send him a shout-out
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26 Mar 2010, 13:23
Turns out I was waitlisted at Duke Fuqua, R2. I thought it was a ding. I didn't read the whole thing beyond where it said "...As a result of the tremendous competition for the Class of 2012, we are unable to offer you a final decision at this time,...."

Only after I received a letter in the mail this week asking whether I was still interested in the waitlist thingy did I read the rest of it ".... and your application has been placed on our waitlist."

Interesting, Fuqua,...interesting....

ibrokeit007 wrote:
Hey Case2010,

Yes... I am a Bro, i am assuming you are a Bro as well...

So far no news today, i was hoping to get some news today. I check my Darden status and it seems that i am now being consider with round three candidates

Oh yeah, a bro/dude/knuckehead here too

Well, being considered at Darden sounds like a good thing though, no? Are you doing any Round 3 as back up/plan B?
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26 Mar 2010, 13:56
JoeMahmah was banned for posting a link to the business week forum on the Kellogg thread, but he's back in a new avatar . To username123, yes non-URMs that demonstrate a commitment to the Consortium's mission should definitely apply. I am an Indian American, but of mixed ethnicity. I never thought I would apply to the Consortium until another Consortium applicant suggested I apply because he was familiar with my story and charity work in Watts and East Palo Alto. As long as you have conviction in your story, I would suggest you apply. I didn't get a fellowship, but am content just being a member. I actually really do care about the Consortium's mission. You will know deep down if you should apply. Best of luck. I have turned down McCombs for NYU or LBS. Just not sure where to go.

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26 Mar 2010, 14:18
mbaTime wrote:
Any waitlisted people here ... I think I may be the only one on this forum waitlisted at CGSM schools.

I was waitlisted at Simon, which I haven't heard anyone on this forum talk about. I'm most likely heading to Texas A&M, so all is not lost. It would have been nice to be part of the Consortium though. Congrats to everyone!
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[It's] about getting people to bring all of themselves to the table." - DuPont CEO Ellen Kullman; Kellogg '83 Manager Affiliations: Alpha Phi Omega, Golden Key, Phi Kappa Phi Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Posts: 68 Location: Adelphi, MD Schools: Ross (CGSM), Maryland, Columbia, CGSM: Stern, Darden, Cornell WE 1: Software/Product Dev (3 yrs) WE 2: Patent Drafting/Prosecution (1 yr) Followers: 1 Kudos [?]: 8 [0], given: 5 Re: Calling all Fall 2010 Consortium Applicants (merged) [#permalink] ### Show Tags 26 Mar 2010, 14:40 Case2010 wrote: I think I am partially banned . I noticed earlier today that when I try to search previous posts, get a "Sorry but you are not permitted to use the search system" response. It's not just you, Case2010. That feature was temporarily deactivated to alleviate server load. I expect it to be back after admissions notices start to slow down again (see the unable to search user's messages thread). _________________ I'm officially a Terperine! Intern Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 6 Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0 Re: Calling all Fall 2010 Consortium Applicants (merged) [#permalink] ### Show Tags 26 Mar 2010, 20:49 Haha, Case2010, I just was no longer able to log into my account (it was inactive). I then emailed the admins, who said I had been banned. Can't nobody hold me down, as the esteemed entrepreneur Sean Combs once said. haha Case2010 wrote: JoeMa wrote: JoeMahmah was banned for posting a link to the business week forum on the Kellogg thread, but he's back in a new avatar JoeMa, how where you notified of the "ban"? I think I am partially banned . I noticed earlier today that when I try to search previous posts, get a "Sorry but you are not permitted to use the search system" response. Glad to have you back. 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Without the "try to get to know you" essay topics like, "tell me about a time you led people" or "tell me about a difficult decision", etc, writing only the standard "tell me your work history" and "why XYZ MBA program", made it very difficult as a non-traditional applicant to write these essays and show a genuine and compelling picture of myself. yes, there is the CGSM mission oriented essay prompt, but unless the CGSM mission has been a focal point in your career, a non-URM+nontraditional candidate may have a difficult time telling "the whole story" because you're too busy "proving" yourself to the CGSM rather than telling them about your passions and motivations. just food for thought. (*also, this post is probably a better fit for the 2011 CGSM thread) Intern Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 3 Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 0 [0], given: 0 Re: Calling all Fall 2010 Consortium Applicants (merged) [#permalink] ### Show Tags 27 Mar 2010, 08:03 So, this may be a question I should know from the CGSM site, but I'm still a little unclear: does the consortium fellowship pay just for tuition, or tuition AND the estimated cost of attendance for your program (i.e. - room and board if on campus, health insurance, etc)? Thanks. 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That does not include, however, room and board, health insurance, books, etc. To cover those costs, you can a) pay out of pocket, b) take out one or more loans, c) apply for additional grants or scholarships (through your school or external programs), d) complete a work-study program such as a graduate assitantship, or e) any combination of the above. For example, if your school estimates total annual cost of attendance to be about 70k with 50k of that being tuition and fees (and the rest being room and board, etc.), the Consortium Fellowship will cover 100k of that over two years while you will be responsible for 40k. Thus, the Consortium Fellowship siginificantly reduces the "financial burden" of receiving an MBA from a great program, but does not eliminate it entirely. Please note that I am not a financial aid officer, but rather a Fall 2010 applicant. To get a more definitive answer on what options are available to cover the cost of living, etc. expenses, you should contact financial aid officers at the program(s) that you are interested in attending. Best of luck to you! _________________ I'm officially a Terperine! Manager Joined: 21 Jan 2010 Posts: 190 Location: Ohio Schools: Indiana Kelley/Class of 2012/Full tuition$$
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idcandy wrote:
Spring10 wrote:
So, this may be a question I should know from the CGSM site, but I'm still a little unclear: does the consortium fellowship pay just for tuition, or tuition AND the estimated cost of attendance for your program (i.e. - room and board if on campus, health insurance, etc)? Thanks.
The Consortium Fellowship covers "tuition and fees," which is a very sweet deal. That does not include, however, room and board, health insurance, books, etc. To cover those costs, you can a) pay out of pocket, b) take out one or more loans, c) apply for additional grants or scholarships (through your school or external programs), d) complete a work-study program such as a graduate assitantship, or e) any combination of the above.

For example, if your school estimates total annual cost of attendance to be about $70k with$50k of that being tuition and fees (and the rest being room and board, etc.), the Consortium Fellowship will cover $100k of that over two years while you will be responsible for$40k. Thus, the Consortium Fellowship siginificantly reduces the "financial burden" of receiving an MBA from a great program, but does not eliminate it entirely.

Please note that I am not a financial aid officer, but rather a Fall 2010 applicant. To get a more definitive answer on what options are available to cover the cost of living, etc. expenses, you should contact financial aid officers at the program(s) that you are interested in attending.

Best of luck to you!

A loud shout out to idcandy, our resident guru Your explanations -- always detailed -- comes in handy at all times. You explanation here is perfect and accurate. I got an e-mail Thursday from the director of the Kelley MBA financial aid office that pretty much said what you said.

One point of note to all: pay attention to your school estimate. Part of my e-mail read "Please note that this (the school estimate) is an average MBA student budget; it was developed by the Office of Student Financial Aid and may not accommodate individual preferences or lifestyle choices. Your actual costs may be higher or lower than the budget listed above. Financial aid of any kind is only available up to the University’s student budget. If your costs exceed the budget, you will need to come to school with savings to accommodate those expenses, or be prepared to sacrifice some items in your budget."
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27 Mar 2010, 17:38
Thank you, Case2010! I'm glad I've been able to contribute to this great community - easily the most helpful and cohesive forum I've ever used.
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Thanks idcandy and Case2010! Extremely helpful explanations.
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28 Mar 2010, 08:08
do schools reallocate turned down fellowships? like everyone else, i'm really surprised about the low number of fellowships coming from stern, both between here and in my personal network, i only know of two people being offered the fellowship, one i am certain will get into HBS and therefore turn it down. it just seems like many of the people who really want to attend stern were not offered the fellowship or any other compensation.

in any case, i wanted to wish everyone good luck at OP (I definitely wouldn't complain about sharing a room, although I guess I've never had hangups about that) I'm sad that I will miss this networking opportunity with peers (especially my minority peers across various schools) and companies, hopefully we will cross paths during our internships, at NBMBAA/NSHMBA, various conferences, or other cross-school events.
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29 Mar 2010, 03:20
Hey Guys,

for roll call purpose:

Ding at Tuck, and Yale

Waiting on HBS and NYU...

I logged in to Tuck's site, because Tuck's admin had been super quiet, and found out that i was denied... Bummer...

Case2010 keep on crossing those finger for me... otherwise you will be writing my essays next fall...
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