https://mba.yale.edu/images/title_fullwidth.gif This thread is for the 2011 Application Year, meaning applicants that are starting School in the Fall of 2011. Please direct all of your questions for this year into the 2012 thread yale-som-2012-calling-all-applicants-class-of-119062.html Also, I encourage all current admits to start transitioning to the GC Class of 2013 Forum that was started very recently. Congratulations to all those admitted! News: https://mba.yale.edu/news_events/CMS/Ar ... 7154.shtml https://yaletomorrow.yale.edu/images/su_som_test.jpg Why you should consider YSOM: calling-all-fall-2010-yale-som-applicants-80450.html#p604003 everything-yale-som-99756.html Friendly YSOM Students Answering Q's in This Thread: adude shadowsjc fugo orgninja nink APPLICATION DEADLINES Round 1 Oct. 7, 2010 (decisions due Dec. 16, 2010) Round 2 Jan. 6, 2011 (decisions due Mar. 25, 2011) Round 3 Mar. 17, 2011 (decisions due May 12, 2011) Add Yourself to the Roll-Call Page ! https://spreadsheets0.google.com/viewfo ... c6MQ#gid=0 Yale SOM - Class of 2013 Applicants 0Avi9JaLjkLnodG96NFRPbVpDNzVsTGd1UlBIa2x4UlE Prior Year's Yale SOM threads: calling-all-yale-som-2009-applicants-75332.html#p496413 calling-all-fall-2010-yale-som-applicants-80450.html Class of 2010 Summer Internship Review calling-all-fall-2010-yale-som-applicants-80450.html?view-post=654261#p654261 Yale SOM Admissions Forum: https://som-talks.som.yale.edu/forums/ 2007-2008 Employment Report: https://mba.yale.edu/careers/employment ... _07_08.pdf Class of 2008 FT Employment /Class of 2009 Summer Internship Stats: https://mba.yale.edu/careers/employment/salary.shtml Latest Class Student Profile for Class of 2011: calling-all-fall-2010-yale-som-applicants-80450-20.html#p615414 Businessweek Best & Worst Job Placement: Yale #1 https://images.businessweek.com/ss/09/1 ... ment/2.htm

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Question for the group: In the Activities section, do you think it's detrimental to have less than the maximum 5 entries? I have 3 solid ECs that I feel good talking about, but to get to 5 I'd have to stretch a bit, and I don't want to make it seem like something I've had limited involvement in was among "the most meaningful activities" I've had since college. And, what do you think is and isn't appropriate to discuss in this section? Obviously charitable causes are great. What about sports? What other types of activities are people including here?

2 Rules to that may apply here:

1) Don't sell yourself short. What you may feel insignificant, may not be insignificant after all. After all, once you are admitted, they send out an email to all the matriculating students a welcome email of the students' accomplishments etc......

2) If you feel that you are just putting stuff down to fill up the application page, it may be better to omit them completely. Concentrate on the ones you "feel good talking about" because the reader of your app can tell whether you are passionate about something or not, based on how you write them up. In addition, if you fill up the application with BLAH, other stuff you may mention on the app (which may be your strength) can look like BLAH as well.

Don't try to filter out what may be relevant or not by thinking that charitable stuff SHOULD be on the application, and something else may not be. Try to give a "complete picture" of who you are and these individual accomplishments should be used as "pieces" that completes you as a person. If the pieces don't work, then leave them out.

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I was wondering about the Explore Diversity event at Yale. I understand it is for URM mostly, but are they generally accepting of Asian-American candidates (I'm not sure if AA's qualify as URM)? Also, is it worthwhile to apply to the explore diversity program even if one is applying R1, since the deadline is before the program happens?

I just came across this question and I thought I would share my opinion. I attended this event a couple of years ago and there were a good number of Asians. Actually, I met people of all races during the event.

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Campus visits start next week and I'll be heading up. Are there any little-known parts of the campus I need to make sure I see while I'm there?

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Can anyone post the recommendation questions?

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Actually, Yale's recommendation questions/instructions seem a lot mellower than for most top schools:

Recommendation Letter
Please write a one- to two-page assessment of the applicant that addresses his or her personal qualities, strengths and weaknesses, and potential for achievement. We are looking for your candid and accurate assessment of the applicant’s potential to be a successful leader and what specific traits the applicant possesses that evidence this potential.
• Please describe your relationship to the applicant and the nature and frequency of your interactions.
• Please be as specific as possible and use concrete examples whenever possible.
• Do not incorporate anything drafted by the candidate in your recommendation or have the candidate submit the recommendation on your behalf.

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Thank you!

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Campus visits start next week and I'll be heading up. Are there any little-known parts of the campus I need to make sure I see while I'm there?

You will get a current student to accompany you during your campus visit. They will certainly take care of you. :wink:

(So don't worry about anything else and just enjoy your visit)

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Anyone want to give me any details about the Silver Scholars program? I am a college senior with a 3.55 GPA and 690 GMAT and am thinking about applying. Thanks!

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How does the SOM view MBAMath? Is it good for an additional quant. profile?

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What I forgot earlier, put me down for R1 - New Haven needs some Germans :beer

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Nink or Shadowsjc or other YSOM-ers:

Can you hook me up with real estate people in YSOM? :-D

After reviewing the website, I just get the general, holistic management vibe, rather than a specific area. From the course roster, I see many electives offered not only in RE but also in investment but I would like to talk to current students IN real estate interest to get deeper thoughts.

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Anyone want to give me any details about the Silver Scholars program? I am a college senior with a 3.55 GPA and 690 GMAT and am thinking about applying. Thanks!

It's a program designed for seniors in college (to apply) because bschools want to compete for college grads (vs. Law school, Med School). The idea is that bschools do not want to lose overachievers to competing graduate programs anymore. You spend 1st year and 3rd year in bschool, and 2nd year with a employer (YSOM lined up a lot of employers who wants to participate in the program), plus you get some scholarship $.

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How does the SOM view MBAMath? Is it good for an additional quant. profile?

Not even sure what that is. (just looked at their website.....god no..you don't need it)

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nink and shadowsjc, I had a opportunity to meet Prof. Jeffrey Garten yesterday and listen to a mock class (Elective on Wall Street and Washington). Have you guys had Garten for any courses? There seems to be a good amount of flexibility with electives (which I like!). Could you elaborate on some other creative electives you have enrolled in or plan to enroll into?

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Haven't taken him but yes, electives @ YSOM are really what makes its program unique. (You will also notice the unique approach to management education during 1st year. Rather than just learning concepts and being tested on those concepts, they want you to learn how it may be relevant to everyday work and they want you to learn how to think and create w a game plan to tackle various issues. They don't want to lay down, in situation A, do X and Y. They want you to shape your way of thinking so you can face any situation and come up with your own unique approach to the situation. Example? Hedge Fund class: https://mba.yale.edu/news_events/CMS/Articles/6737.shtml )

Due to my post-bschool job offer, I've been loading up on electives in finance and law (via Yale Law school) courses - (courses I've taken or plan on taking in the future) Finance Instruments & Contracts, Emerging Markets, PE Investments, Distressed Investing & Restructuring Debt, Venture Capital, Structured Finance, Financial Engineering, Taxes, Business & Strategy, Simulation Modeling, and bunch of Corporate and Bankruptcy Law courses...)

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nink: I understand that in the second year you can take as many courses as you want from the law school, school of forestry and env. studies, or from other colleges outside of the SOM. Is that right? And how have you managed in the law school courses? Do you feel ill prepared for the legal language and fundamentals, or are you able to do well?

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Electives can be taken in the Spring semester of your 1st year. Yes, scheduling it will be an issue but you can take electives from any of the other graduate schools @ Yale. Another fantastic thing about Yale is that, due to its small, and tight/knit community and class size, you have relatively easier time registering for classes compared to other top bschools with huge class size. I would say, except for few popular courses w popular professors, I was able to register in the courses that I wanted to.

Law school is a big challenge. You don't get the preparation of L1 curriculum that law school kids get (including legal writing classes, etc) but it's not impossible. Once you learn how to approach law school classes (learn to read the codes, cases, rulings, and other primary sources - how to research them and etc), it isn't impossible. I would say it can be dull compared to bschool classes, but that's just the nature of the law school. On top of that, competition is fierce in the law school so if you are competitive (in terms of academics), you might find yourself in the law library, preparing for the next class so you can debate with the law school kids. Besides, people are friendly in general.

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I'll be visiting campus next Monday. If you guys are around, it would be great to connect.

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Does anyone have a sense of how important a campus visit is at YSOM for admissions purposes? Obviously visiting campus will help write a stronger "Why YSOM" essay, but I'm wondering if not visiting will be a negative in the admissions decision. For example, Sloan and Stern seem to emphasize the importance of visiting campus, whereas HBS has explicitly said it has no bearing on the admissions decision.

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How does the SOM view MBAMath? Is it good for an additional quant. profile?

Not even sure what that is. (just looked at their website.....god no..you don't need it)

Hi guys - i am a current student too .. i actually did do the MBAMath thing and I got in. Hard to tell if that had any impact on the decision though. I would suggest a course in a college / university. Its not a terribly useful course to be honest from a learning math point of view but I used it to show that I could handle level mba level math work since my quant percentile was low on the gmat.

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I waited till I interviewed to visit campus. Not sure how it's looked at in general. You can certainly write the Why Yale essay without visiting and get in. If you are in the NE though, I would imagine (I have no real inside info on this) its not going to be viewed favorbly if you dont make the trip for your interview if you have never been to campus.