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@Capricorn

In my opinion applying for the 1 year program is almost like getting a scholarship (time and money wise). I downloaded the 1Y book and saw that almost 40% of the class is sponsored. That leaves about 50 people (out of potential class of 80). Wow... the odds look difficult !!!

Maybe, applying for the 2Y program maybe easier. Not sure now. I was checking out previous threads of gmatclub and somebody had written that the competition for the 1Y program get pretty intense. Also, although the average gmat score mentioned for the 1Y is 700, it would be wise to note that almost 40% of the class is sponsored. My feeling is that the gmat score of the non sponsored lot are likely to be in the mid to high 700's.

Definitely wont be easy to get in. But I am sold on the 1Y option now.

@dattaraj - All above stuff sounds logical BUT with 1Y i'm going to save both time and money ;-) Right now, i've shortage of both.

Cheers!
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Best of luck with the application Capricorn. R2 is just around the corner. I am in at R2 as well for Kellogg. Just trying to make up my mind between 1y or 2y. Will apply for 1Y if I feel optimistic enough.

If a miracle happens then we might end up meeting each other at Chicago/Evanston in the coming class for 1Y's. Just a hopeful thought ;)
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Dattaraj, welcome to the forum dude.

Must say your thoughts have taken the focus away from the results anxiety and various hypothesis that we were indulging in. Cheers mate!

Kellogg 1Y is a great option, harder to get in (you'll need to have lots of alternate transcripts to depict basic education in diverse courses), and ideal if you're returning back to your employer. What'd be more important is customizing the killer Essay 3 and adding the fact that you're perfectly suited for a 1Y programme.
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Dattaraj, welcome to the forum dude.

Must say your thoughts have taken the focus away from the results anxiety and various hypothesis that we were indulging in. Cheers mate!

Kellogg 1Y is a great option, harder to get in (you'll need to have lots of alternate transcripts to depict basic education in diverse courses), and ideal if you're returning back to your employer. What'd be more important is customizing the killer Essay 3 and adding the fact that you're perfectly suited for a 1Y programme.



I applied to the 1Y in R1 largely because of the lower cost and less time out of work. My one concern is that the recruiting process might be slightly more difficult because I will be competing with 2Y students who just finished internships.
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@all those who had telephonic i/v after waiver : what was the duration of your interviews in general people?
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I thought I would share my thoughts on the 1YR program as there has been some chatter about it. The 1YR program is for individuals that are not career switchers. This program is focused on students that need an MBA to move to the next level of their current career path. I would not recommend this for anyone who is trying to switch careers or make major career jumps.

The reason a majority of the class is sponsored, is because they are getting the MBA to move up within. Thus the company is willing to pay for them to go as long as they return. The 1 year program works great in their minds because they get a strong Kellogg network, and only lose a rock star performer for a year.

I would not apply to the 1YR program unless I was already working in the industry I want to be in for sure. It is really focused on individuals that need the network and degree to progress in their current line of work.

I know people may disagree, but just thought I would share my point of view for those that are still deciding between the 1YR and 2YR programs.
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I thought I would share my thoughts on the 1YR program as there has been some chatter about it. The 1YR program is for individuals that are not career switchers. This program is focused on students that need an MBA to move to the next level of their current career path. I would not recommend this for anyone who is trying to switch careers or make major career jumps.

The reason a majority of the class is sponsored, is because they are getting the MBA to move up within. Thus the company is willing to pay for them to go as long as they return. The 1 year program works great in their minds because they get a strong Kellogg network, and only lose a rock star performer for a year.

I would not apply to the 1YR program unless I was already working in the industry I want to be in for sure. It is really focused on individuals that need the network and degree to progress in their current line of work.

I know people may disagree, but just thought I would share my point of view for those that are still deciding between the 1YR and 2YR programs.

Rgupta83,

Infact I agree with you. I have the same impression. It is not good for people who want to make major career swtiches. Ideally, if you are already in the industry you want to be in, then the program makes a lot of sense. In this case your past work experience weighs heavily. For people who want to make major career switches, the 2Y option offers a lot of flexibility and hence makes more sense. Infact Kellogg explicitly states the same on their website.

I am particularly motivated by the 1Y program because:

1. I intend to be in the same industry I am currently working in.
2. Cost. I am from India. MBA is a significant investment. If I have to come back to India post my 1Y MBA, the ROI will be faster and definitely easier to manage.
3. 1 Year... the entire curriculum is flexible. Where you can focus only on electives that you want to study.
4. Essentially all the same opportunities as the 2 Year MBA apart from Internship. Which definitely puts you at a slight disadvantage because internships are a gr8 way to get placed in the US. From where I see it, even without the internship, the Kellogg brand will definitely assist in finding jobs.

So just my opinion on this. Just some info that I have gathered from online resources and Kellogg website.
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obviously, assuming that I have a chance. I have heard that the 1 Year program is a *complain* to get into because of the competition and seats available. Lets see how things go.... back to GMAT prep for now :)
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From conversations I have had with people at Kellogg I think the barriers to getting in to the 1y program are a bit greater than are represented here.

At one recruitment event in London it was mentioned that you need to demonstrate education in 6 of 7 core areas, which basically meant you need an undergraduate degree in business to have any chance of qualifying for acceptance.

From what I hears I think the acceptance rate is so low in part because a lot of people apply to the 1y course without ensuring they meet the criteria for entry. The criteria are on their website:
https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/Programs/FullTimeMBA/MBA_Programs/1_Year_Program.aspx

So it is not just a question of wanting to return to your own industry and a willingness to forgo the internship. You need to have a demonstrable knowledge of these areas.
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I agree. I went to an information session at Kellogg before my interview a few months ago on-campus. One of the attendees asked about the 1Y program and then the admissions staff reiterated for 5 minutes about how the 1Y program is very tailored to people who already have met certain requirements and are generally more inclined towards going back to their previous industry.

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From conversations I have had with people at Kellogg I think the barriers to getting in to the 1y program are a bit greater than are represented here.

At one recruitment event in London it was mentioned that you need to demonstrate education in 6 of 7 core areas, which basically meant you need an undergraduate degree in business to have any chance of qualifying for acceptance.

From what I hears I think the acceptance rate is so low in part because a lot of people apply to the 1y course without ensuring they meet the criteria for entry. The criteria are on their website:

So it is not just a question of wanting to return to your own industry and a willingness to forgo the internship. You need to have a demonstrable knowledge of these areas.
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On another note, I hope that Kellogg calls tomorrow with good news for people rather than next week. That way all of us on this board (**hopefully we all get in**) can go out for celebratory drinks. Getting the call on a Monday-Thursday would be difficult to justify going out to get drinks for.
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On another note, I hope that Kellogg calls tomorrow with good news for people rather than next week. That way all of us on this board (**hopefully we all get in**) can go out for celebratory drinks. Getting the call on a Monday-Thursday would be difficult to justify going out to get drinks for.

Wait, what? I'm going out for celebratory drinks regardless of the day the call comes. If it comes on Friday, I'll probably just stay at the bar longer.

And, to be fair, I'm pretty sure I'll need a drink regardless of the outcome...I'm just hoping it's celebratory drink and not a consolation drink.
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Celabratory Drink: Beer (about 10)
Consolation Drink: Jameson (about 10)

What does everyone else drink? Any discussion beats "waiting"...
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Celabratory Drink: Beer (about 10)
Consolation Drink: Jameson (about 10)

What does everyone else drink? Any discussion beats "waiting"...

I'm with you on the Jameson, I think a 5ft. Ace of Spades bottle would suffice for a Celebratory drink.
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Celebratory: A good quality pilsner or stout - preferably from a good brewery around town.
Consolation: Johnnie Walker Blue Label -- I justify this choice by the fact that I'll still be working and making money rather than quitting and looking forward to school.
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Celabratory Drink: Beer (about 10)
Consolation Drink: Jameson (about 10)

What does everyone else drink? Any discussion beats "waiting"...

I'm with you on the Jameson, I think a 5ft. Ace of Spades bottle would suffice for a Celebratory drink.
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Celabratory Drink: Beer (about 10)
Consolation Drink: Jameson (about 10)

What does everyone else drink? Any discussion beats "waiting"...

Celebratory: Sipping dirty Kettle One Martini at Ruth's Chris bar
Consolation: Pounding straight Wild Turkey on couch watching Lifetime reruns
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Ha that was pretty good.
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