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Calling all US Military Fall 2011 Applicants! 20 Jun 2011, 21:22
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I got in off the Tuck waitlist today!!!! I accepted UT McCombs' offer two weeks ago and have been making all these Austin relocation plans....now what do I do??? I had been waiting for this call since March; I thought my ship sailed!!!!
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Unless UT offered you a full scholarship, or you have a burning desire to live in Austin or work with an oil company in Houston post-MBA, I would say going to Tuck is a no-brainer.
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Well...I didn't really meet any students at Tuck or McCombs, I just met a few that walked me around. It was actually Spring and Summer breaks, respectively. Since I was visiting Tuck as a waitlister, I haven't really been exposed to as much as I have been at McCombs. I like the collaborative feeling, 'work hard, play hard', career services, and international opportunities at McCombs. I am unsure of all of that exists at Tuck -- I know the career services are Top-Notch, just dont know if that collaborative environment exists, again, because I didn't see school vibrant with life at the time. I also dont know if there is a 'work hard, play hard' mentality at Tuck. I know the work hard exists, but do the students unwind?
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First, congrats on getting off the waitlist. Personally, I think that while Tuck is probably better known outside Texas, you will get a top-notch education and find your opportunities at either school. My recommendation is to think real hard about the location and your impressions when visiting. I've never been to Hanover, but from what I've heard it is a unique environment to be a student and definitely sounds very different from Austin (which I thought that was a pretty exciting city).

As far as getting a better idea of the student life and culture, try to reach out to someone at the Tuck Veterans Club if you can, they can probably give you a direct and upfront take on the school from a perspective similar to your own.

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As others have said, both are great schools. It really comes down to where you want to live and what field you want to work after your MBA. Tuck is more rural and McCombs is downtown Austin.

-Tuck is not a school for everyone. If you like small communities and enjoy an outdoor place like Hanover, this is perfect. But for someone who prefers city life, it will be a disappointment. (https://www.businessweek.com/bschools/ra ... /tuck.html)

https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#-annual-reports/ 3 free reports on MBA programs. Includes Tuck. Unfortunately nothing on McCombs.

Tuck Employment Statistics
Median Base Salary: $105,000
Top Industries: Consulting (34%), Financial Services (28%), Consumer Goods/Retail (9%) Top Locations: Northeast (53%), West (13%), Midwest (8%)
dartmouth-tuck-103699.html

43% of students accepted positions in the Northeast and only 4% in the Southwest.
https://www.tuck.dartmouth.edu/recruitin ... yment.html
Employer Stats at Tuck

57% of students accepted jobs in the Southwest. 11% in the Northeast.
https://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/career/em ... /stats.asp Employer Stats for McCombs

Ranking comparison of the two schools:
Tuck is top 10; McCombs is top 20. Tuck has a higher GMAT average and larger international population. Class size is about the same so the collaborative environment should be similar to McCombs. 2010-mba-rankings-99812.html

Tuck places a heavy emphasis on its tight-knit and residential character, and has a student population that hovers near 500 students and a full-time faculty of 46. Tuck claims over 8,400 living alumni in a variety of fields, with the highest rate of alumni donation of any business school.

The school stresses a collaborative and teamwork-based approach to learning, which it touts as one of its assets for "building the interpersonal skills required for business leadership." However, this emphasis on cooperative group learning has been criticized as too "touchy-feely" for students entering the competitive business world, and the emphasis on consensus-building as detrimental to students' ability to make quick, independent decisions.
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C20, I posted a voting forum in another thread to help get others involved in the discussion. Best of luck!

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C20, I was actually deciding between Tuck and Carnegie Mellon (which in my mind culture wise is pretty close to McCombs). And initially I was inclined towards Tepper. But as you can see I will be heading to Tuck this fall. So please feel free to PM me if you would like to discuss Tuck experience.
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Calling all US Military Fall 2011 Applicants! 21 Jun 2011, 21:19
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On the topic of tuition I know most of these posters have already been accepted to top tier private schools, but future GI Bill students should definately look at the ROI for public MBA programs, especially if they can get in-state tuition. The changes in August of 2011 will make in-state public school MBAs 100% covered. Any scholarship you may have been offered by a school for recruitment could go directly to you as a kick-back, if in the language of the scholarship it does not explicitly state it is for tuition only (since the VA GI Bill is a 'last payer' after tuition scholarships). I'm not trying to attack or diminish those top programs which will definately have higher average salaries and healtheir top-tier recruiting, but considering the debt to kick-back difference a good public school may be a no brainer depending on your financial situation and other factors affecting your decision of which school to go with. For me personally one of my top 5 reasons for enlisting was to get out of debt, and so I was reluctant to re-up on that if you will. If the alternative private program costs a lot, doesn't offer total coverage with the yellow ribbon, and you are offered a substantial scholarship from a public school it is definately worth a look. You can also recieve in-state tuition as part of the scholarship process regardless of your state of residency depending on the institution. Getting paid to go to school is a beautiful thing even if it has 'state' at the end of its title.
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Good evening all...

I realize there probably will be a 2012 thread made fairly soon, but wanted to introduce myself before I begin my MBA application process. I'm currently a Navy LTJG and a Northwestern University (Econ) alum. Not much prior work experience other than the military as I joined right out of college, but I had a stint with investment banking internships while an undergrad in Chicago. I've just started my GMAT prep and hope to knock it out by September to put a couple applications in the first round later this year. If there are any JO's around this forum needing an MBA prep buddy for essay/app/GMAT review, I'd be really glad to join up. Thanks.

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Calling all US Military Fall 2011 Applicants! 22 Jun 2011, 18:31
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There was a 2012 Applicants threaded started already and it had some decent activity. You might have to look a few pages back for it because there haven't been any recent posts, but you should find plenty of others applying this year.
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Did any of you guys use a consulting firm? I was wondering if it would better since it will be kind of hard to try to tailor military experience towards a business atmosphere?
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Did any of you guys use a consulting firm? I was wondering if it would better since it will be kind of hard to try to tailor military experience towards a business atmosphere?
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I'd say use a consultant if you don't have a trusted friend / mentor whom you can turn to to ask for advice / provide feedback. Of course, it's only helpful if your friend / mentor has gone to b-school already otherwise it'd be like the blind leading the blind.

Lots of consultants out there. I'm using HBS Admissions Consulting but he only consults for HBS applicants. You should check out one of the big firms that do anything and everything, too.
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I would hate to think about spending several thousand dollars in consultant fees then not get into any of your target schools...it's not like they have money-back guarantees.

I think they're unnecessary myself. It's not that hard to translate military stuff into civilian terms--you can find books and websites devoted solely to that topic. You can have some vets at your target schools review your essays and resume--do some networking or find some friends of friends and they'll most likely be willing to help you out. Vets like to help other vets be more competitive for admission, so regardless of how busy they are with classes they'll usually give you some time. I think I had a total of 6 guys split between 3 of my target schools who reviewed my essays, none of whom I had actually met, and a few of them passed my essays on to friends of theirs who were willing to look at them.

And you can also have some people with absolutely zero military knowledge (friends/family/neighbors/etc.) read over your stuff and make sure it's not too jargon-heavy. You can do interview prep with anyone...if I remember right from my TAP class, the family/career services centers on base have people whose job is to prepare separating personnel for job interviews. Not exactly the same thing as adcom, but a lot of those people have worked HR for large companies so they're familiar with the things that can make or break an interview.
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On the subject of admissions consultants...

Just a little over two years ago I was exactly in your shoes (you can still see my old posts), and I recently graduated from HBS. During our time at HBS, several other veterans and I provided informal help to many military applicants. We worked with HBS admissions, spoke with other students, and in the process figured out what worked for military applicants and had a very high success rate. This year we decided to more formally expand the service and focus directly on helping military applicants through a professional service.

Check it out and let me know what you think. We also collected successful military applicant essays/resumes to HBS and other top schools and bundled it with our analysis. If you like, you can also submit a profile on there for a free assessment. I'm looking forward to hearing your feedback.

https://www.MilitaryToBusiness.com
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