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Agree. They may interview less than 30-40% this year because of the huge WL. Will see some day :)

Not sure I follow-- why would that mean they are interviewing fewer people? One needs to get an interview before being placed on the waitlist, correct? If the waitlist is bigger than normal, I would think they are actually interviewing more people than they usually do.
Argument would be they waitlisted more people from Rd 1 (who were interviewed) so they don't need to interview as many in Rd 2 if they decide they'd rather take people off of the top of the waitlist.
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Agree. They may interview less than 30-40% this year because of the huge WL. Will see some day :)

Not sure I follow-- why would that mean they are interviewing fewer people? One needs to get an interview before being placed on the waitlist, correct? If the waitlist is bigger than normal, I would think they are actually interviewing more people than they usually do.
Argument would be they waitlisted more people from Rd 1 (who were interviewed) so they don't need to interview as many in Rd 2 if they decide they'd rather take people off of the top of the waitlist.

Ah, understood thanks.
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anyone here have any insights into exactly how big the waitlist is and how many candidates they accepted in R1?
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anyone here have any insights into exactly how big the waitlist is and how many candidates they accepted in R1?

And, are y'all saying the R1 waitlist is larger this year than it has been in years past? If so, how do you know that?
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anyone here have any insights into exactly how big the waitlist is and how many candidates they accepted in R1?

And, are y'all saying the R1 waitlist is larger this year than it has been in years past? If so, how do you know that?
If you read back in this blog (decision date was 12/17 i think...or check the sheet on the first page), it looks like they waitlisted a higher percentage of people than they normally do (based on the sample available).
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im a wharton R1 waitlister and I honestly believe that they waitlisted a much bigger percentage in R1 and admitted less people because they wanted to see what they get in R2...that being said I have no idea what that means...if that means they will take more off the waitlist, etc.
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im a wharton R1 waitlister and I honestly believe that they waitlisted a much bigger percentage in R1 and admitted less people because they wanted to see what they get in R2...that being said I have no idea what that means...if that means they will take more off the waitlist, etc.

If Wharton does do so, I guess it is unethical, although it is understandable; more importantly, Wharton might lose a competitive and promising candidate if s/he was put in waiting list by Wharton while s/he got offers from other schools. It is not a good move for Wharton.

Seems to be an interesting topic for research. :D
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Hello All,

Can anyone tell me if Wharton requires summer prep courses to be taken for admits who never studied business? And if so, when do these courses start? I am asking this question for different schools...

Also, I'm wondering what would be the last date possible for R2 interviews??

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im a wharton R1 waitlister and I honestly believe that they waitlisted a much bigger percentage in R1 and admitted less people because they wanted to see what they get in R2...that being said I have no idea what that means...if that means they will take more off the waitlist, etc.

If Wharton does do so, I guess it is unethical, although it is understandable; more importantly, Wharton might lose a competitive and promising candidate if s/he was put in waiting list by Wharton while s/he got offers from other schools. It is not a good move for Wharton.

Seems to be an interesting topic for research. :D

Why would it be unethical?
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If Wharton does do so, I guess it is unethical, although it is understandable; more importantly, Wharton might lose a competitive and promising candidate if s/he was put in waiting list by Wharton while s/he got offers from other schools. It is not a good move for Wharton.

Seems to be an interesting topic for research. :D
There is nothing unethical in waitlisting applicants.

This is one good case for research in Operations for those who get off the waitlist and go on to specialize in OPIM at Wharton.
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Can anyone tell me if Wharton requires summer prep courses to be taken for admits who never studied business? And if so, when do these courses start? I am asking this question for different schools...

Also, I'm wondering what would be the last date possible for R2 interviews??

Thanks
Everybody does pre-term that is followed by a Calculus exam. Pre-term starts in the first days of August, and lasts four weeks.

The last day for R2 interviews in March 4.
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Thanks xerox,

This information is important for me. In case I get in that is.
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Of course it's unethical.

Tom wanna buy some goods (admission confirmation) from Jack; Jack announced certain criteria and the date to release the results; Tom thinks he might get the goods, therefore he pays the fee (application fee); But during the day to release the results, Jack said, sorry, we can't give your the goods, but you might or might not get it in a few days, it depends upon some other criteria and you have to wait.

It doesn't look ethical to me. I just think it is simple, the waiting list thing is just something that the schools wanna maximize their profit while get rid of any liabilities. And the worse thing is, most of the candidates on the waiting list might still appreciate such list.

It is an interesting topic for research of game theory, strategy and non-linear programming. The difficult part is data collection. Nevertheless, if a system can be developed, it would be much more good to applicants than to schools.
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Of course it's unethical.

Tom wanna buy some goods (admission confirmation) from Jack; Jack announced certain criteria and the date to release the results; Tom thinks he might get the goods, therefore he pays the fee (application fee); But during the day to release the results, Jack said, sorry, we can't give your the goods, but you might or might not get it in a few days, it depends upon some other criteria and you have to wait.

It doesn't look ethical to me. I just think it is simple, the waiting list thing is just something that the schools wanna maximize their profit while get rid of any liabilities. And the worse thing is, most of the candidates on the waiting list might still appreciate such list.

It is an interesting topic for research of game theory, strategy and non-linear programming. The difficult part is data collection. Nevertheless, if a system can be developed, it would be much more good to applicants than to schools.

Yeah, except your forget that Tom can also not accept the goods and get it from someone else. Just as schools can waitlist us, we can withdraw and go to other schools who have accepted us. There's nothing unethical about what Wharton is doing.
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Of course it's unethical.

Tom wanna buy some goods (admission confirmation) from Jack; Jack announced certain criteria and the date to release the results; Tom thinks he might get the goods, therefore he pays the fee (application fee); But during the day to release the results, Jack said, sorry, we can't give your the goods, but you might or might not get it in a few days, it depends upon some other criteria and you have to wait.

It doesn't look ethical to me. I just think it is simple, the waiting list thing is just something that the schools wanna maximize their profit while get rid of any liabilities. And the worse thing is, most of the candidates on the waiting list might still appreciate such list.

It is an interesting topic for research of game theory, strategy and non-linear programming. The difficult part is data collection. Nevertheless, if a system can be developed, it would be much more good to applicants than to schools.

Not unethical. Apparently Tom forgot to read the fine print because his contract with Jack clearly states that he might have to wait for a decision after the official decision date.

Unethical would be granting people admission in R1 and later reneging because the decided R2 was stronger and they were no longer worthy.
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Of course it's unethical.

Tom wanna buy some goods (admission confirmation) from Jack; Jack announced certain criteria and the date to release the results; Tom thinks he might get the goods, therefore he pays the fee (application fee); But during the day to release the results, Jack said, sorry, we can't give your the goods, but you might or might not get it in a few days, it depends upon some other criteria and you have to wait.

It doesn't look ethical to me. I just think it is simple, the waiting list thing is just something that the schools wanna maximize their profit while get rid of any liabilities. And the worse thing is, most of the candidates on the waiting list might still appreciate such list.

It is an interesting topic for research of game theory, strategy and non-linear programming. The difficult part is data collection. Nevertheless, if a system can be developed, it would be much more good to applicants than to schools.

It would be unethical if everyone wasn't given an equal opportunity to bid for the goods. Think of it more like an auction than a single transaction. If you sell something on ebay and the highest bidder doesn't pay up, you have the option to give a second offer to the next highest bidder. There's nothing morally wrong about telling someone we think you meet our qualification requirements but we can only admit x number of people due to capacity restrictions so we will reconsider your application if a space opens up after all admits have made their decisions. Its not a profit maximizing strategy. If they wanted to maximize their profits they would simply admit the people willing to pay the most fees.
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Of course it's unethical.

Tom wanna buy some goods (admission confirmation) from Jack; Jack announced certain criteria and the date to release the results; Tom thinks he might get the goods, therefore he pays the fee (application fee); But during the day to release the results, Jack said, sorry, we can't give your the goods, but you might or might not get it in a few days, it depends upon some other criteria and you have to wait.

It doesn't look ethical to me. I just think it is simple, the waiting list thing is just something that the schools wanna maximize their profit while get rid of any liabilities. And the worse thing is, most of the candidates on the waiting list might still appreciate such list.

It is an interesting topic for research of game theory, strategy and non-linear programming. The difficult part is data collection. Nevertheless, if a system can be developed, it would be much more good to applicants than to schools.

Also, Tom knows before he buys the goods from Jack that there is a possibility of being waitlisted. So if he is still willing to pay for the goods knowing full well he could face one of 3 possible outcomes, then its a perfectly ethical arm's length transaction.
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