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24 May 2008, 22:43
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thanks for the post, kwam.
well, i don't know what to say. i made the waitlist, and their very nicely written waitlist letter indicated they want me, but can't take everyone. i have a lot of save the world type stuff on my resume and am pursuing an MBA to go down a save the world route (i have a nonprofit + finance background). i'm sure that's what got me the interview (i think my what matters essay was strong as well), but apparently my stats were not enough to get it done. i am 25 and would be 26 at matric next year, so it's not exactly the end of the world, though i was really looking forward to going to school this year. in a way, not getting in to any school was good, because it clarified for me that i really only want to go to stanford... i know that's a pretty ridiculous thing to say, but we all have our dreams.
if i reapply, it will be to S, maybe W, and maybe the school in the city i live in for a PT program.
well, i don't know what to say. i made the waitlist, and their very nicely written waitlist letter indicated they want me, but can't take everyone. i have a lot of save the world type stuff on my resume and am pursuing an MBA to go down a save the world route (i have a nonprofit + finance background). i'm sure that's what got me the interview (i think my what matters essay was strong as well), but apparently my stats were not enough to get it done. i am 25 and would be 26 at matric next year, so it's not exactly the end of the world, though i was really looking forward to going to school this year. in a way, not getting in to any school was good, because it clarified for me that i really only want to go to stanford... i know that's a pretty ridiculous thing to say, but we all have our dreams.
if i reapply, it will be to S, maybe W, and maybe the school in the city i live in for a PT program.
25 May 2008, 08:18
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IMHO, if you really want to just save the world, then you should consider getting a degree another than an MBA...The NGO/World Bank/IMF network at, say, Hopkins' SAIS or Harvard's KSG are much stronger...You know, as much as Stanford claims that they breed leader who change the world, most go into MC/IB/VC/PE. It's easy to drink the Kool Aid, and I don't want to sound pessimistic, but when you scratch the surface at S. you get what you have without scratching at every other b-school: a large number of people who want to make a lot of money after graduation, preferably in a job/industry they like...
Just my $0.02
Disclaimer: Would love to go to Stanford
Just my $0.02
Disclaimer: Would love to go to Stanford
25 May 2008, 09:19
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I respectfully disagree with the claim that GMAT is not a big factor for Stanford. If Stanford really wanted to take people with "save the world" potential, they would NOT require the GMAT. Let's not fool ourselves - it's no accident that Stanford has the highest average GMAT of any top b-school (substantially higher than HBS, even).
I also don't think SGSB could fill a class with 760+ people with good stats and amazing personal histories. Think of "people with amazing personal histories" as one set, and "people with other good stats" as another, and "people with 760+ GMAT" as the third set. Now draw a Venn diagram and take a guess as to how many people are at the intersection of the three sets. I doubt there are 450 people in that set year after year. Of course, "good stats" and "amazing personal histories" are fairly subjective, but I think we're all on the same page about those.
The "save the world potential" is mainly a differentiator between someone whose goal is to become a well-paid, high-level corporate drone and someone whose goal is to run a multinational company and positively affect the world. Taking a step back, you see that both of these people have the EXACT same goal, except I bet the first person talked all about his promotions at work and his track record in very real, uninspiring terms, whereas the second person probably showed an understanding of how he fits into the big picture of his company, and how his company fits into the big picture of the world. The second person probably had the courage to dream big and outline some clear steps about how SGSB fits into that dream.
So, call me a skeptic, but I think the difference between a 690 GMAT and a 760 GMAT means the same to Stanford as it does to Harvard, Wharton, Sloan, etc. You may sense a different attitude with the average Stanford student than you will at Harvard, but the same kind of people are at both places.
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). I don't think my essays really talked about "changing the world" as much as it should. Oh well, it's all history anyways, no need to cry over it. 
