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very tough choice NC... it sounds like your fit at Ross is better than UCLA based on all your reasoning. I wish I could give more comments, but I don't know Ross' program well enough, so I can only say that the E-ship at UCLA will definitely get you doing startups immediately. But it sounds like Ross can do that too.

The cost of living difference is solely determined by the location and weather. Like my previous comment about Fargo (North Dakota), you get what you pay for. If you and your wife are ok with that, then by all means, the location and weather should no longer be a factor (whereas in my case, both are huge factors and thus strikes against Kellogg, since I pretty much refuse to live in those sort of winter conditions if I don't *have* to :P)

bewakoof, no offense taken, it's all about your individual fit. To give NC a different viewpoint, comparing Days at Haas and Anderson Days, I was blown away by DAH. A-Days was fun, well organized, professional, informative, and cool. The people were friendly, genuine, and helpful. But Haas was simply awesome for me. I felt the energy and friendliness of the students, the love they have for the school, and the excitement they bring to everything they do at every event. It's also interesting to note that I met very few engineers at Days at Haas, whereas many people I met at A-Days were engineers... it's probably just a luck of the draw. Also, no offense to any Anderson students, past, present or future, I did feel that the "sharpness" (as NC puts it) of the students at Haas were slightly higher than Anderson, ONLY based on the people I met. Again, this is NOT intended to be a knock at Anderson people, whom I was quite impressed with, but just drilling down to the very fine points (nitpicking). Maybe it's because I'm one of those "nerdy/engineery" types? :wink: hahaha :lol:

It is unfortunate that Anderson didn't tell you about your admit until too late, because A-Days would be crucial for you to decide your fit at Anderson. I wish we could tell you what the experience was like, but just from reading bewakoof's and my polar opposite experiences at A-Days, it really all depends on the person.

Check with red_s4, maybe he can give a 3rd unique perspective of A-Days to help you learn vicariously through your GMATClubbers to help you make the decision?
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kry - its all the matter of luck..I am sure people at Haas are WONDERFUL! and have nothing against Haas.. It is all one's perspective - I am sure if I were at admit weekend at Haas, I would have had a blast and enjoyed the company of present and future classmates.

I was really worried about my Waitlist at Kellogg but after my UCLA weekend, I wasn't even thinking about Kellogg. I can't stress how important admit weekends are for understanding school's culture. For me I know I will have opportunity to lead few things and bring new things on the table that hasn't been done before..

I WILL be Very happy at UCLA/Duke and You will BE Very Happy at Berkley/Kellogg.

In the end: A lot of it is what you put in, is what you get out. I am sure majority of us gmatclubber's are very diven, motivated and are hardworkers. We have worked hard to get to this position and I am sure we will be Successful in WHATEVER we aim to do!
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bewakoof, I agree 100%. I did not mean to say whether one school was better than the other, sorry if my post came across that way. :) I sincerely believe all of the top 15 schools will be great for us, as long as we found one that fits our personality and our career goals best. :)
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nc, come to Ross. You know you want it :lol: But jokes aside, I think this is a fantastic discussion and it's great how all of you are helping nc with his decision. Since my knowledge about UCLA is severely limited, I'm going to respectfully stand aside and watch how this unfolds.

psst...come to Ross. I'm learning how to cook some wonderful dishes. Will share 'em with you!
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Just got an interview after being waitlisted on 3/27.

Woohoo!!
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Congrats!!!
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congrats ryguy!!!
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Can anyone comment on UCLA's IB placement in areas other than CA? It seems that 9-12% of the class successfully go into the field, but the stats on the website are not clear what location these grads end up in. Since almost 80% of the class stays in CA, I am wondering how easy or hard it is to get an IB job in NYC, Chicago, etc. Thanks.

BTW, I am an '09 applicant trying to narrow down my list. I am pretty sure of 4 of the 5 schools I am planning to apply to. The 5th spot will probably be either UCLA, Cornell, or Michigan.
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Can anyone comment on UCLA's IB placement in areas other than CA? It seems that 9-12% of the class successfully go into the field, but the stats on the website are not clear what location these grads end up in. Since almost 80% of the class stays in CA, I am wondering how easy or hard it is to get an IB job in NYC, Chicago, etc. Thanks.

BTW, I am an '09 applicant trying to narrow down my list. I am pretty sure of 4 of the 5 schools I am planning to apply to. The 5th spot will probably be either UCLA, Cornell, or Michigan.
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A current student told me the following: UCLA is a strong finance school with a good placement record in IB. However, only a small percentage of the class is really interested in doing IB - a lot more is interested in consulting, entertainment, and marketing. For the ones that are focused and determined to get IB - they generally get it.

As far as placement within CA or NYC, he told me that most firms love to take UCLA students and have them work in NYC. The issue at play here is simple supply and demand. There are a lot more openings available in NYC than there are UCLA students who want to work in NYC. Most UCLA students want to stay in California, and there are less openings in California than there are in NYC. As far as placements into Chicago - I'm really unsure. I can understand why you would want to work in NYC over California, but I can't come up with any logical reason you'd want to work in Chicago over LA/SF unless you have family/friends there or have a particular love for serving conservative/old line industrials-oriented clients.

IMO, if you want to work in California - UCLA > Cornell and Michigan by a longshot. If you want to work in NYC - Michigan > UCLA > Cornell. My reasoning for putting UCLA ahead of Cornell on NYC is due to the level of competition at Cornell for NYC IB positions compared to UCLA.
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terp06,
Thanks for the great info. I'll continue to evaluate the 3 schools in the coming months and try to decide which makes the most sense for me.

I agree that NYC or CA makes more sense than Chicago. Another possible post-MBA location is Houston since I may focus on the energy sector. I didn't realize there was much IB opportunity in LA. I always assumed that West Coast IB opportunities were all in SF...
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terp06,
Thanks for the great info. I'll continue to evaluate the 3 schools in the coming months and try to decide which makes the most sense for me.

I agree that NYC or CA makes more sense than Chicago. Another possible post-MBA location is Houston since I may focus on the energy sector. I didn't realize there was much IB opportunity in LA. I always assumed that West Coast IB opportunities were all in SF...
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Moelis & Co, UBS, Credit Suisse all have large offices in LA and they are very reputable shops. Most of the other bulge brackets have very small offices. Goldman is tiny in LA, for example. There is more opportunity in SF for sure, don't get me wrong. But there is plenty in LA as well - SoCal has a very dynamic and diversified economy.
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did anyone else get the UCLA application survey? It asks you to rate and comment their application process, their website, infosessions, admissions office, and brand image. I definitely provided my "constructive criticisms". :P
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I got it. The $50 gift card sounded nice, but then I saw that only 1 person would get it. My first feedback would be to tell them to give $5 to everyone who completes the survey and not just promise an entry. :lol:

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did anyone else get the UCLA application survey? It asks you to rate and comment their application process, their website, infosessions, admissions office, and brand image. I definitely provided my "constructive criticisms". :P
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So what's is gonna be NC? Ross or UCLA?
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Had my interview yesterday on campus with Jessica L. Fairly standard format - it was conversational but not too relaxed. The usual suspects - "Why MBA, why now, why Anderson, teamwork example, challenge you overcame, how has that shaped you, clubs you'd participate in, what would you do for fun etc. outside classwork..." and one that threw me for a minute, "Tell me about a disappointment in your life." She seemed to relate to what I was saying, at least a bit, and clearly appreciated that I had flown out from NY for the interview. She also noted the students that I'd spoken with - I set up an informal chat/lunch for myself w/the current president of the Entertainment Management Association, and obviously she knew the guy quite well. Took a TON of notes. :shock:
After lunch, I wandered about the campus taking pictures and sticking my nose into buildings. Students were all very warm and friendly, and the facilities were astonishing. Top of the line stuff. Anderson students I met were a nice combination of ambitious gunners and well-balanced folk. Can't think of a better place to learn to launch my film production company, so everybody cross your fingers and do your hay-making rain dances for me, ok?? :lol:
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sounds like your interview went really well. good luck!!!
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congrats on the good interview and good luck, uphill! Seems like you had the same great experience I had at UCLA when I visited! :)
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Thanks rapid, kry...yeah, I was really impressed with the school and how welcoming everybody was. Lots of smart happy people running around - I dig that! Now comes the wait....*sigh*
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I'm just curious. For all of you who were admitted, what is your intended area of study and your short term goal?
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has anyone interviewed with Jennifer Tabbush at Anderson? I think she is an associate adcom. My interview with her is this Monday.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!
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never interviewed with her, but she is a very nice person based on conversations at A-Days. Just be yourself and know the school (and yourself) and you should be fine!
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