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Citizens of countries just beginning to institute market economies lack business experience so profoundly as to take years for these countries to compete in a global marketplace that turns more capitalistic every day.

1. lack business experience so profoundly as to take years for these countries to compete in a global marketplace that turns
2. want business experience so profoundly that it will be years before they can compete in a global marketplace which turns
3. have such a lack of business experience that it will take years before these countries are competing in a global marketplace turning
4. are so lacking in business experience as to take years before these countries do compete in a global marketplace which is turning
5. are so lacking in business experience that it will take years for these countries to compete in a global marketplace turning

Can someone take a look at this question?

I narrowed the choice between 1 and 5. I think choice 1 is using the "so...as to" correctly. And choice 2 is using the "so... that" correctly.

Correct answer is 5, but I'm not sure why. The explanation that was provided states that "This is an idiom error that causes take to be an incorrect verb tense without a proper subject". But on choice 5, "it" seems ambiguous. Is the "it" supposed to be a placeholder "it"?
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'it' is not ambiguous. Let us take an example of a sentence.

Eg - I was so nervous during the test that it took me a while to calm down my nerves.

Hope it helps [GRINNING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]

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Why isn???t A right?? Please explain

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Hi ,

It is not right because 'so' is always followed by 'that'. But here, the argument uses "as to" which is incorrect.

Hope it helps ,?

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That's not correct. There are two correct idioms. "So (adjective)" as to "(verb)" and "So (adjective) that (subject) (verb)".
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Citizens of countries just beginning to institute market economies lack business experience so profoundly as to take years for these countries to compete in a global marketplace that turns more capitalistic every day.

1. lack business experience so profoundly as to take years for these countries to compete in a global marketplace that turns
2. want business experience so profoundly that it will be years before they can compete in a global marketplace which turns
3. have such a lack of business experience that it will take years before these countries are competing in a global marketplace turning
4. are so lacking in business experience as to take years before these countries do compete in a global marketplace which is turning
5. are so lacking in business experience that it will take years for these countries to compete in a global marketplace turning

Can someone take a look at this question?

I narrowed the choice between 1 and 5. I think choice 1 is using the "so...as to" correctly. And choice 2 is using the "so... that" correctly.

Correct answer is 5, but I'm not sure why. The explanation that was provided states that "This is an idiom error that causes take to be an incorrect verb tense without a proper subject". But on choice 5, "it" seems ambiguous. Is the "it" supposed to be a placeholder "it"?
Hello,

'it' is not ambiguous. Let us take an example of a sentence.

Eg - I was so nervous during the test that it took me a while to calm down my nerves.

Hope it helps [GRINNING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]

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I understand that "It" is used as a placeholder subject. But at the same time, using your example, you can write this:
I was so nervous during the test as to took a while to calm down my nerves.
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Citizens of countries just beginning to institute market economies lack business experience so profoundly as to take years for these countries to compete in a global marketplace that turns more capitalistic every day.

1. lack business experience so profoundly as to take years for these countries to compete in a global marketplace that turns
-- Wong because of idiomatic so.....that construction error.
2. want business experience so profoundly that it will be years before they can compete in a global marketplace which turns
--Illogical meaning. Original sentence doesnt say they want anything. Its about their curent state that is fact.
3. have such a lack of business experience that it will take years before these countries are competing in a global marketplace turning
--misplace are verb. Again from original sentece we dont know whether they are competeing in market right now or now. SO it changes the meaning of original sentence
4. are so lacking in business experience as to take years before these countries do compete in a global marketplace which is turning
--so....that construction error
5. are so lacking in business experience that it will take years for these countries to compete in a global marketplace turning
--correct one because so...that construction has been corrected. Turning correctly modified "global marketplace".
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Citizens of countries just beginning to institute market economies lack business experience so profoundly as to take years for these countries to compete in a global marketplace that turns more capitalistic every day.

1. lack business experience so profoundly as to take years for these countries to compete in a global marketplace that turns
2. want business experience so profoundly that it will be years before they can compete in a global marketplace which turns
3. have such a lack of business experience that it will take years before these countries are competing in a global marketplace turning
4. are so lacking in business experience as to take years before these countries do compete in a global marketplace which is turning
5. are so lacking in business experience that it will take years for these countries to compete in a global marketplace turning

Can someone take a look at this question?

I narrowed the choice between 1 and 5. I think choice 1 is using the "so...as to" correctly. And choice 2 is using the "so... that" correctly.

Correct answer is 5, but I'm not sure why. The explanation that was provided states that "This is an idiom error that causes take to be an incorrect verb tense without a proper subject". But on choice 5, "it" seems ambiguous. Is the "it" supposed to be a placeholder "it"?
Hello,

'it' is not ambiguous. Let us take an example of a sentence.

Eg - I was so nervous during the test that it took me a while to calm down my nerves.

Hope it helps [GRINNING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]

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I understand that "It" is used as a placeholder subject. But at the same time, using your example, you can write this:
I was so nervous during the test as to took a while to calm down my nerves.
The change does not make much sense, infact it is grammatically incorrect atleast for this sentence.

However, another error in the option 1 is "for these countries"....it is grammatically incorrect.

So...as to..might be correct but sometimes it also depends on the sentence and the meaning it wants to convey.

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GmatNinja please explain i was confused between 4 and 5 and selected 4.. Why is it wrong

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Correct structure : so + adj + as to. But in option A, so profoundly is not so+ adj, rather it is so + adverb. Besides, the sentence does not sound very well while reading.therefore option A is incorrect. Correct answer is E.


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GmatNinja please explain i was confused between 4 and 5 and selected 4.. Why is it wrong

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Detailed analysis of option 4 and 5

4. are so lacking in business experience as to take years before these countries do compete in a global marketplace which is turning
5. are so lacking in business experience that it will take years for these countries to compete in a global marketplace turning


IN 4
Check what the difference is between 4 & 5

Let's say both so x that y and so x as to y are correct

In the end there is a "which" in 4
which here refers to global market place
In 5 there's turning which refers to Countries


Now
Intended meaning of sentence wants us to refer to countries and not Global marketplace
as global marketplace is not turning into anything, it is the countries


THAT IS JUST ONE REASON (the main one)

4. Has a "do" in it, which I believe is awkward and may be a typo

REASON NO. 3
When everything else is alright and you're stuck between forms of so x ..... y

try to use so x that y construction ( there are reasons but that's unnecessary if you can remember it as a general rule of thumb)

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GMATNinja, can you please clarify how "turning" is correct in option E? How do we determine "turning" is refers to "countries" and not "marketplace"?
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I didnt understand the difference between "so... that vs so.. as to" Could someone please provide a clearer explaination?
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Can someone please provide the OE ?
I could not think of any real problem with D.
Turning countries does not sound right to me.
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Can someone please provide the OE ?
I could not think of any real problem with D.
Turning countries does not sound right to me.

Correct ans is E

For option D
Usage of so ____ that ____

Something was so ____ that ___

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Can someone please provide the OE ?
I could not think of any real problem with D.
Turning countries does not sound right to me.

Correct ans is E

For option D
Usage of so ____ that ____

Something was so ____ that ___

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Hi Ankit,
Thanks I missed the point I guess.
For E though, shouldn't turning be referring to marketplaces and in that sense, turning would in fact sound awkward.
Can you please explain ?
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I rejected E because it's generally not advisable to use continues tense unless very much required. But it seems incorrect. Can an expert help on this?
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