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30 May 2009, 18:04
Jerz wrote:
With the size of the applicant pools to these schools, you shouldn't expect to see a noticeable change in acceptance rates as a result of class size increases. Even if HBS adds an entire section, acceptance rates would move from 10% to 11% (assuming that the number of applications doesn't change much). So you still stand as one applicant out of many in an ultra-competitive applicant pool. The best thing to do is focus on putting together the best application you can. Out of the roughly 9000 applications HBS receives each year, the odds of you being one of the 30-90 who may be impacted by a change in class size are pretty slim.

Regardless, what does that have to do with my question of how big the increase is? Besides, increasing the class size by 90 means an increase of 10%, which is not insignificant at all.
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30 May 2009, 19:05
I dont think anyone has a 100% accurate answer. I heard a full section, which makes sense since if you add 30 that gets divided among sections and seating in classes and stuff might become an issue. The way HBS runs their classes its actually easier to add an entire section in a lot of ways.

I understand why you asked the question though but really take a breath and dont over think things like this since it is completely out of your control. You guys will see the numbers this fall since the increases were supposed to be for the class of 2011. In the end it really doesnt impact applicants all that much other than making it about slightly easier to get in as was pointed out. Yes it will trickle down to other schools so in the end it will make it easier to get into every school if there are more slots at HBS, Stanford, and Wharton. If it is 150 or so, that means 150 more people going to top 5, top 10, etc than before. I dont think anyone would turn down HBS because of this decision alone.

There are a lot of other factors that could have potentially significant impacts on the number of applications. Think of what changes to student loans, career opportunities post MBA, overall economy, etc.
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02 Jun 2009, 14:36
Interesting thread! In this economy with classes being oversubscribed (e.g. Duke/UNC) and endowments going down, the class sizes are bound to show an increase. Heard Ross is bumping up their class size too.
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02 Jun 2009, 15:33
I'm in favor of increased class sizes. The bigger the class, the easier it is to get in right?!
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02 Jun 2009, 15:46
Chicago is apparently not increasing their class size.
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01 Jul 2009, 13:05
http://www.hbs.edu/mba/profiles/classprofile.html

HBS 2011 class profile. 942 1st-year students (increase of 42 from previous year). Admit rate remains steady at 12%.
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02 Jul 2009, 08:05
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Chicago is apparently not increasing their class size.

Thank God...
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02 Jul 2009, 09:18
while i would love the trivial increase in my prospects of getting in, it doesn't outweigh the reason that drove me to apply to b-school in the first place: a better job/more job opportunities. so if bigger classes are going to adversely affect recruiting, especially if this economy doesn't get it together, i'm voting 'thumbsdown' to it
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02 Jul 2009, 13:33
msday wrote:
http://www.hbs.edu/mba/profiles/classprofile.html

HBS 2011 class profile. 942 1st-year students (increase of 42 from previous year). Admit rate remains steady at 12%.

Holy gods. nearly 1000 people in a class. That sounds like hell.
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02 Jul 2009, 13:40
For someone like me who has not yet been accepted to a b-school, I like that schools are increasing class sizes for now. With the large influx of applicants, if class sizes were not increased, then acceptance rates would drop.
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02 Jul 2009, 17:03
3underscore wrote:
msday wrote:
http://www.hbs.edu/mba/profiles/classprofile.html

HBS 2011 class profile. 942 1st-year students (increase of 42 from previous year). Admit rate remains steady at 12%.

Holy gods. nearly 1000 people in a class. That sounds like hell.

Didn't it sound to you like hell with 900 people in a class? 40 people = no real difference.
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11 Jul 2009, 01:10
For what it's worth, if people are still concerned with verifying the sources of these rumors that some schools are increasing their class sizes, I can say that the dean of admissions of one highly ranked program in the midwest made it a point to tell me that another top east coast program where he/she used to be the dean of admissions was going to add another section this year. I was actually very taken aback by this, and in my eyes the comment actually did more damage to my view of that admissions officer's current program than my view of their old program that was apparently adding a section.

In NCAA sports recruiting, there is an unwritten rule that no coach should ever engage in "negative" recruiting. That is, get recruits to join your program by selling your program, not by trashing another program that you know they are considering. I was very shocked to see the face of a program (to prospective students) engage in negative recruiting by trashing his/her former employer, especially when the students from that program were making an effort to not speak poorly of other programs, but my point is that the heads of admissions from top programs are pointing out that other top programs are adding whole sections this year, so I believe these claims shold be taken seriously.
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11 Jul 2009, 09:18
garbus222 wrote:
Didn't it sound to you like hell with 900 people in a class? 40 people = no real difference.

Well, true, 900 people still sounds a pretty hellish number of people - it is strange how much being in a class where the number of people was lower made so much importance to me. I think it might have subliminally influenced the schools I liked & disliked. I really enjoyed knowing near most the people in the corridor, and with 1800 people I would never be able to do that.

I would disagree that 40 people isn't a difference, as that isn't enough for a new run of classes. That is class size inflation.
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