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B contains a grammatical howler, is unidiomatic and illogical.
A contains one grammatical ambiguity easy to eliminate by logic.
No chance an answer like B to be correct on the GMAT.
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Five of the committee members will be unable to attend the meeting due to the severity of the snow storm, so I suggest that it be postponed until a later time.
a) so I suggest that it be postponed until a later time
b) therefore I suggest that the meeting should be cancelled until another time
c) and my suggestion is to be postponing the meeting until a better time
d) for which at another time we can be having it
e) thereby it ought to be postponed until a more safe time

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the question outside official sourse such as og or gmatprep is used for practice logic /meaning analysis . we should not follow the unofficial .

A is best though "it" is ambiguous
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Yes, the OA should be A. "It" is only technically ambiguous. No one's going to think that we're suggesting that the storm be postponed, so A works.

But no, this is not really a GMAT-like question. For instance, the GMAT never uses the first person ("I").
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Yes, the OA should be A. "It" is only technically ambiguous. No one's going to think that we're suggesting that the storm be postponed, so A works.

But no, this is not really a GMAT-like question. For instance, the GMAT never uses the first person ("I").



'It' is used in option A.....but what is the antecedent of IT? Snow Storm / Meeting? a genuine ambiguity........Option B has no such issue.....other options are trash...
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B doesn't work. As HumptyDumpty stated, we can't use "should" with "suggest." B also has a comma splice: the portion after the comma is an independent clause, so we'd need a semicolon. Additionally, you can't cancel something "until another time." The meeting is either cancelled or it isn't. We can postpone a meeting, but then the phrase "until another time" would be redundant.

As for A, all I can do is reiterate that there is no lack of clarity about the intended antecedent. Many official GMAT SC questions feature pronouns with more than one possible antecedent, but only one logical one. A few examples:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/in-late-1997 ... 85840.html
https://gmatclub.com/forum/congress-is- ... 67594.html
https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-professor- ... 22418.html
https://gmatclub.com/forum/in-some-type ... 20379.html
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I don't think the answer is B. The reason is that B is a comma splice. A comma splice is the use of a comma to join two independent clauses.

Comma Splice: My family bakes together nearly every night, we then get to enjoy everything we make together.

Correction : My family bakes together nearly every night. We then get to enjoy everything we make together.

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It is really dangerous when such posts pop up!

Posts must be representative of the GMAT and nothing else!

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OA must be corrected to A...
Useless question...
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Any time a pronoun is used to describe a noun in a previous clause, we run into issues of ambiguity.

This is a very simple question when considered through the lens of the GMAT test makers. They are testing whether or not we can identify the fact the ambiguity in the second clause.

We can and we alter the sentence to remove the ambiguity by adding the "meeting" to the second clause.
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MDK wrote:
Five of the committee members will be unable to attend the meeting due to the severity of the snow storm, so I suggest that it be postponed until a later time.
a) so I suggest that it be postponed until a later time
b) therefore I suggest that the meeting should be cancelled until another time
c) and my suggestion is to be postponing the meeting until a better time
d) for which at another time we can be having it
e) thereby it ought to be postponed until a more safe time

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the question outside official sourse such as og or gmatprep is used for practice logic /meaning analysis . we should not follow the unofficial .

A is best though "it" is ambiguous


thought it was ambiguous. but i doubt it cos if only fits for the meeting.

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DmitryFarber wrote:
B doesn't work. As HumptyDumpty stated, we can't use "should" with "suggest." B also has a comma splice: the portion after the comma is an independent clause, so we'd need a semicolon. Additionally, you can't cancel something "until another time." The meeting is either cancelled or it isn't. We can postpone a meeting, but then the phrase "until another time" would be redundant.

As for A, all I can do is reiterate that there is no lack of clarity about the intended antecedent. Many official GMAT SC questions feature pronouns with more than one possible antecedent, but only one logical one. A few examples:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/in-late-1997 ... 85840.html
https://gmatclub.com/forum/congress-is- ... 67594.html
https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-professor- ... 22418.html
https://gmatclub.com/forum/in-some-type ... 20379.html


DmitryFarber, hello sir. Could you help me with a quick question?
Regarding the pronouns referring to antecedents, is it safe to say that it is only ambiguous when the pronoun has 2 or more logical antecedent? Like in this case, it would be bizarre to say "it" could refer back to "Storm".

Thanks in advance!
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doe007 wrote:
lucbesson wrote:
Five of the committee members will be unable to attend the meeting due to the severity of the snow storm, so I suggest that it be postponed until a later time.
a) so I suggest that it be postponed until a later time
b) therefore I suggest that the meeting should be cancelled until another time
c) and my suggestion is to be postponing the meeting until a better time
d) for which at another time we can be having it
e) thereby it ought to be postponed until a more safe time

Source: GMAT Club Ultimate Grammar

A) What is to be posponed? snow storm or meeting? "it" has modifier problem. Wrong.
B) Meaningful and error free. Correct.
C) So the postponement will be continuously ongoing activity! Changes the meaning. Wrong.
D) No clear reference for "which" and "it". Wrong.
E) No clear reference for "it". Wrong.

Correct answer is B.


You are wrong, my friend. Have you heard of Pronoun Ambiguity ?
The antecedent of 'IT' is 'meeting' because the snow storm cannot be postponed.

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