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What formula have you applied to make statement 2 sufficient. Could you please explain. thanks!

(2) The length of Arc XAY = 2pi/3 --> \frac{2\pi}{3}=\frac{120}{360}*2\pi{r} --> r=1, the same as above. Sufficient.


The formula is:

Arc length = \(2\pi{R}(\frac{C}{360})\), where C is the central angle of the arc in degrees.

Recall that \(2\pi{R}\) is the circumference of the whole circle, so the formula simply reduces this by the ratio of the arc angle to a full angle (360).

For more check Circles chapter of our Math Book: math-circles-87957.html

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For a circle with center point P, cord XY is the perpendicular bisector of radius AP (A is a point on the edge of the circle). What is the length of cord XY?

From the diagram and the stem: AZ=ZP=r/2. In a right triangle ZPX ratio of ZP to XP is 1:2, hence ZPX is a 30-60-90 right triangle where the sides are in ratio: \(1:\sqrt{3}:2\). The longest leg is ZX which corresponds with \(\sqrt{3}\) and is opposite to 60 degrees angle. Thus <XPY=60+60=120


(1) The circumference of circle P is twice the area of circle P --> \(2\pi{r}=2*\pi{r^2}\) --> \(r=1\) --> \(XZ=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\) --> \(XY=2*XZ=\sqrt{3}\). Sufficient.

(2) The length of Arc XAY = 2pi/3 --> \(\frac{2\pi}{3}=\frac{120}{360}*2\pi{r}\) --> \(r=1\), the same as above. Sufficient.

Answer: D.


HI Bunnel,

I am getting some doubts on this.

1. From statement 1 we can get that radius r = 1 . but how you are dividing r in r/2. We have given that XY is perpendicular bisector but this is not given it is dividing radius exactly in half. Also I can see diagrams are different in question and one you are referring.

Please clarify this. If in question also we have diagram as you have mentioned then I have no problem . I just want to know how you assumed to divide r in r/2

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For a circle with center point P, cord XY is the perpendicular bisector of radius AP (A is a point on the edge of the circle). What is the length of cord XY?

From the diagram and the stem: AZ=ZP=r/2. In a right triangle ZPX ratio of ZP to XP is 1:2, hence ZPX is a 30-60-90 right triangle where the sides are in ratio: \(1:\sqrt{3}:2\). The longest leg is ZX which corresponds with \(\sqrt{3}\) and is opposite to 60 degrees angle. Thus <XPY=60+60=120


(1) The circumference of circle P is twice the area of circle P --> \(2\pi{r}=2*\pi{r^2}\) --> \(r=1\) --> \(XZ=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\) --> \(XY=2*XZ=\sqrt{3}\). Sufficient.

(2) The length of Arc XAY = 2pi/3 --> \(\frac{2\pi}{3}=\frac{120}{360}*2\pi{r}\) --> \(r=1\), the same as above. Sufficient.

Answer: D.


HI Bunnel,

I am getting some doubts on this.

1. From statement 1 we can get that radius r = 1 . but how you are dividing r in r/2. We have given that XY is perpendicular bisector but this is not given it is dividing radius exactly in half. Also I can see diagrams are different in question and one you are referring.

Please clarify this. If in question also we have diagram as you have mentioned then I have no problem . I just want to know how you assumed to divide r in r/2

Thanks


A perpendicular bisector is a line which cuts a line segment into two equal parts at 90°.

Thus XY is the perpendicular bisector of radius AP means that XY cuts AP into two equal parts.

Hope it's clear.
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since XY is perpendicular bisector of AP, we can draw a line from X to P and from Y to P, to form 2 30-60-90 triangles
why 30-60-90? because XP and YP is radius of the circle. AP is as well radius of the circle. Taking into consideration that XY bisects AP, we know for sure that:
from the intersection, say point Z, to P, we have 1/2 radius. we have 1 angle 90, and sides with proportions x-x sqrt 3 - 2x. this is a 30-60-90 triangle.

in order to find at least the radius.

from 1, we can deduct that r=2 - sufficient
from 2, we can deduct calculate the circumference, and get the radius - sufficient.

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For a circle with center point P, chord XY is the perpendicular bisector of radius AP (A is a point on the edge of the circle). What is the length of chord XY?

(1) The circumference of circle P is twice the area of circle P.
(2) The length of Arc XAY = 2π3 .

If we let Z represent the intersection point between AP and XY, and ZP=r, XP=2r, XZ=sqrt(3)r, there is one variable (r), and 2 equations are given from the 2 conditions; there is high chance (D) will be our answer.
From condition 1, 2(phi)r=2(phi)r^2, r=1. This condition is sufficient,
From condition 2, angle AXP=120 deg, and the length of Arc XAY=2(phi)r(120/360)=2(phi)/3. r=1. This conditions is sufficient as well.
1)=2), so the answer becomes (D).
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For a circle with center point P, cord XY is the perpendicular bisector of radius AP (A is a point on the edge of the circle). What is the length of cord XY?

From the diagram and the stem: AZ=ZP=r/2. In a right triangle ZPX ratio of ZP to XP is 1:2, hence ZPX is a 30-60-90 right triangle where the sides are in ratio: \(1:\sqrt{3}:2\). The longest leg is ZX which corresponds with \(\sqrt{3}\) and is opposite to 60 degrees angle. Thus <XPY=60+60=120


(1) The circumference of circle P is twice the area of circle P --> \(2\pi{r}=2*\pi{r^2}\) --> \(r=1\) --> \(XZ=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\) --> \(XY=2*XZ=\sqrt{3}\). Sufficient.

(2) The length of Arc XAY = 2pi/3 --> \(\frac{2\pi}{3}=\frac{120}{360}*2\pi{r}\) --> \(r=1\), the same as above. Sufficient.

Answer: D.


Hi Bunuel,
Thanks for the amazing explanation. But how did you figure out that AZ=ZP? Do we have to assume it from the figure because it is nowhere mentioned in the question. For that reason I chose B which was incorrect.

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Bunuel wrote:
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For a circle with center point P, cord XY is the perpendicular bisector of radius AP (A is a point on the edge of the circle). What is the length of cord XY?

From the diagram and the stem: AZ=ZP=r/2. In a right triangle ZPX ratio of ZP to XP is 1:2, hence ZPX is a 30-60-90 right triangle where the sides are in ratio: \(1:\sqrt{3}:2\). The longest leg is ZX which corresponds with \(\sqrt{3}\) and is opposite to 60 degrees angle. Thus <XPY=60+60=120


(1) The circumference of circle P is twice the area of circle P --> \(2\pi{r}=2*\pi{r^2}\) --> \(r=1\) --> \(XZ=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\) --> \(XY=2*XZ=\sqrt{3}\). Sufficient.

(2) The length of Arc XAY = 2pi/3 --> \(\frac{2\pi}{3}=\frac{120}{360}*2\pi{r}\) --> \(r=1\), the same as above. Sufficient.

Answer: D.


Hi Bunuel,
Thanks for the amazing explanation. But how did you figure out that AZ=ZP? Do we have to assume it from the figure because it is nowhere mentioned in the question. For that reason I chose B which was incorrect.


You should read the stem carefully. Check the highlighted part: bisector means that it cuts in half.
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