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For all those who fear from Verbal- lets give it a fight

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New post 03 May 2010, 23:30
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Thanks a lot gurpreet...

One more Q.. how much time you think it would take me for improving my verbal score from my current level around 17 to 44-45 levels if im able to give 2-3 hrs daily..

so that i can book my gmat exam accordingly.. my targets are IIMA PGPX n ISB...


That is a very difficult question, as I m not so good in verbal too. Just concentrate on building up the concepts and do not rush for the admission. You can get into those prestigious institutions only if you can score well on both quant and verbal. So work hard for building them up.

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Thanks a lot gurpreet...

One more Q.. how much time you think it would take me for improving my verbal score from my current level around 17 to 44-45 levels if im able to give 2-3 hrs daily..

so that i can book my gmat exam accordingly.. my targets are IIMA PGPX n ISB...


anything from 2 to 2.5 weeks(2-3 hrs daily) should be ok to wrap up the Verbal part in terms of grasping the fundamental concepts....then it boils down to individual section practice and finally full/timed test....

But 1 thing I will tell you mate --> in this entire phase, do not get bogged down. 17 to 44 is a smooth ride.....it's just that our minds have to be controlled to make that ride smooth...and that's what all of us are aiming at through this forum...It's better to think that "You Can Know" rather than disturbing thoughts that "You Don't Know".

To share my verbal learning experience, I had taken a contrarian approach. I had not touched either CR Bible right at the beginning for CR or MGmat SC for SC. Instead I picked up Princeton and read what it had to offer on both these sections. Content wasn't exhaustive as it's better known peers but it helped me out with some basic concepts which I later used to practice OG questions untimed. First time attempts yielded 40% accuracy. But most importantly, here I delved deep into each question so that I become comfortable with the different patterns and question types. This took me a week. But touch wood, those efforts are now reaping rewards when I take practice tests. Later when I picked up CR Bible, I could finish the book in 2 days flat, giving 4 hours each day, because I could correlate with all the concepts and explanations given therein, courtesy of all the brainstorming I had done previously.Now am achieving a 90-92% accuracy each in CR and SC practice and 40-42 in full tests.

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sag wrote:
Thanks a lot gurpreet...

One more Q.. how much time you think it would take me for improving my verbal score from my current level around 17 to 44-45 levels if im able to give 2-3 hrs daily..

so that i can book my gmat exam accordingly.. my targets are IIMA PGPX n ISB...


anything from 2 to 2.5 weeks(2-3 hrs daily) should be ok to wrap up the Verbal part in terms of grasping the fundamental concepts....then it boils down to individual section practice and finally full/timed test....

But 1 thing I will tell you mate --> in this entire phase, do not get bogged down. 17 to 44 is a smooth ride.....it's just that our minds have to be controlled to make that ride smooth...and that's what all of us are aiming at through this forum...It's better to think that "You Can Know" rather than disturbing thoughts that "You Don't Know".

To share my verbal learning experience, I had taken a contrarian approach. I had not touched either CR Bible right at the beginning for CR or MGmat SC for SC. Instead I picked up Princeton and read what it had to offer on both these sections. Content wasn't exhaustive as it's better known peers but it helped me out with some basic concepts which I later used to practice OG questions untimed. First time attempts yielded 40% accuracy. But most importantly, here I delved deep into each question so that I become comfortable with the different patterns and question types. This took me a week. But touch wood, those efforts are now reaping rewards when I take practice tests. Later when I picked up CR Bible, I could finish the book in 2 days flat, giving 4 hours each day, because I could correlate with all the concepts and explanations given therein, courtesy of all the brainstorming I had done previously.Now am achieving a 90-92% accuracy each in CR and SC practice and 40-42 in full tests.

All the best for your preparations !





That means u did all the OG problems after u finished Princeton only.. Isn't it not a good appoach to go for OG problems without the basics of MGMAT SC n CR Bible...

or u suggest the same approach to me as im into huge mental pressure n discouraged as nothing is going well in verbal part...

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@Sag

My friend....The best approach suitable for you would be something that you have to come up with.....because you are the best judge of what you are good at

Here there would be experiences/instances shared....but not necessary that they might work for you completely....it's like "To be a good driver, follow the road and not the taillights in front of you"....Taillights can give you a sense of direction that the road ahead of you might be taking.....but the drive path is something we all have to choose the best for ourselves...

So keep walking and you will find yourself out of the woods soon :)
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Its not advised to do practice questions unless you have built your basic fundamentals..
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Hi all,

I will try to summarize my learnings on grammer fundamentals, which are very crucial to boost our scores.

Please refer the link:
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New post 06 May 2010, 21:47
Hi..

Need some help regarding Cause n Effect Qs of CR section..

Not able to get what we have to find out in these type of Qs..
how to attack them... read Powerscore chapter on Cause n Effect 2-3 times.. but still the idea is not crystal clear..

plzz help..
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New post 06 May 2010, 22:18
Sag,

I was also facing the same issue, but now I have found the trick that read the argument and try to think personally for any CR problem.

Dont worry if the things are not coming as per your expectations, now. It will take some time but sure on your way.

Try a few problems on GmatClub on C&E and try to understand the explanations given by memebers.


sag wrote:
Hi..

Need some help regarding Cause n Effect Qs of CR section..

Not able to get what we have to find out in these type of Qs..
how to attack them... read Powerscore chapter on Cause n Effect 2-3 times.. but still the idea is not crystal clear..

plzz help..
thanks
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ykaiim wrote:
Sag,

I was also facing the same issue, but now I have found the trick that read the argument and try to think personally for any CR problem.

Dont worry if the things are not coming as per your expectations, now. It will take some time but sure on your way.

Try a few problems on GmatClub on C&E and try to understand the explanations given by memebers.


sag wrote:
Hi..

Need some help regarding Cause n Effect Qs of CR section..

Not able to get what we have to find out in these type of Qs..
how to attack them... read Powerscore chapter on Cause n Effect 2-3 times.. but still the idea is not crystal clear..

plzz help..
thanks


actually Ykaiim..
im facing this problem in every section which i cover from Powerscore.. initially i feel that i ve got the basics ... then i try the problems.. sometimes i get it right also but my explanation is not same as OE.. i.e. explanation which i thought was wrong but ans is right... sometimes im able to get down to 2 choices but not the final 1...

wat to do..?? shd i just keep practicing this way only..???

thanks

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The key is PATIENCE. If things are that simple then everyone will score 740.

Don't get discouraged if things are not coming as per your expectations. Try to think simple but come up with 2-3 points when you think personally for a problem. Say, a weaking problem - what can be the options to weaken a problem and weigh them. This is how I am doing and it is working for me. Try to think and then check the explanations. It will take some time to reach the confidence level.

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Sag,

I was also facing the same issue, but now I have found the trick that read the argument and try to think personally for any CR problem.

Dont worry if the things are not coming as per your expectations, now. It will take some time but sure on your way.

Try a few problems on GmatClub on C&E and try to understand the explanations given by memebers.


sag wrote:
Hi..

Need some help regarding Cause n Effect Qs of CR section..

Not able to get what we have to find out in these type of Qs..
how to attack them... read Powerscore chapter on Cause n Effect 2-3 times.. but still the idea is not crystal clear..

plzz help..
thanks


actually Ykaiim..
im facing this problem in every section which i cover from Powerscore.. initially i feel that i ve got the basics ... then i try the problems.. sometimes i get it right also but my explanation is not same as OE.. i.e. explanation which i thought was wrong but ans is right... sometimes im able to get down to 2 choices but not the final 1...

wat to do..?? shd i just keep practicing this way only..???

thanks

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New post 07 May 2010, 07:09
As some GMAT expert has suggested that the key to kill the SC is REVISION. There is no derth to the fundamentals in SC so revise what you have in your arsenal. With this, I have started Manhattan SC revision from today. :idea:

Meanwhile, I will post my learnings as usual to GC.

If anyone wants to discuss some doubts on STYLE w.r.t. Manhattan SC and OG10 then PM me.
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Also make sure to read every OG explanation, including why the other options are incorrect. This helped me quite a bit. But, as already mentioned, you first must build up your language skills before you tackle the problems.
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Also make sure to read every OG explanation, including why the other options are incorrect. This helped me quite a bit. But, as already mentioned, you first must build up your language skills before you tackle the problems.


Thanks to all for your continuing support. I have updated my first post with expert reviews and will update this regularly.

Thanks again and keep sharing.
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Updates : I have improved in CR section and revised SC again. But still I m not confident as I m not an active reader but I will work more on that.

I need to curb all the distractions around me, especially dinner time TV that sometimes goes longer than required, Facebook lol, application worry, financial issues etc. I m going home for a week and it was much required as I was feeling home sick.
I will give Powerprep tests and after that I will start with OG's, as just the theory part of SC is not working for me. I will follow MGMAT sc approach of doing OG with the theory.I had saved OG's for my powerprep tests, and at home I will give them at least 2 times.

I hope I will be stronger than before once m back. I won't give up, I know hard work is required and it will be paid off well.

:lol: I will try to come online for sometime to keep in touch and good luck to all from my side. Just rock !!
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New post 14 May 2010, 00:53
Great.

Today, I am finished with Manhattan SC 2003 Ed (till Comaparisons) and half of entire SC and RC from OG10, and CR from OG12. I am sure I will finish the revision by coming Monday.

What's the status of others in our team :wink:.
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New post 15 May 2010, 04:07
Had taken a break for the last few days.
But everybody here looks to be gearing up slowly, which is good. At present I am revising on concepts in SC and CR where I am making mistakes in tests or practice. Overall momentum looks to be healthy and barring a few hiccups doing not so bad. Hope to keep the momentum going for the next few months before D-day.
As far as books are concerned, I am re-practicing OG 3rd time now, after that a 2nd revision of CR Bible is lined up plus some tests from Kaplan and Princeton sandwiched in between.
Have already scaled 650 at the start of this month, have kept a target of 690 by the end of this month and 720 by middle of next.
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i have finished PowerScore CR once... should i start practicing Qs from OG 12...?
If its advisable then shd i also time the Qs ...? as im not able to finish the Qs of OG in around 2 mins...

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i have finished PowerScore CR once... should i start practicing Qs from OG 12...?
If its advisable then shd i also time the Qs ...? as im not able to finish the Qs of OG in around 2 mins...

thanks


In the initial stages of practice, try identifying the CR question types, apply the concepts you have learnt from PowerScrore CR and concentrate more on hitting the right answer. This can effectively help in building your confidence in the different CR question types/formats. Also it additionally helps you understand in which types you are strong at and in which types you need rework.

Trying to time the questions diligently in the beginning can dent your confidence if you solve any question incorrectly. So to start with, you can simply clock total time you take to complete a spedific set of Q's, which can be kept as a record for further evaluation in latter stages to understand how you have improved on your timing/approach along with accuracy.

So give accuracy the priority in the beginning and gradually inject time into it.
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New post 15 May 2010, 10:48
OG12 CR is way above OG10 CR.

So, I will suggest you to first do OG10 following CR Bible. I dont know your reasoning skills but doing OG12 may be challenging for you.
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New post 30 May 2010, 13:31
gurpreetsingh how are you doing?
I am writing because I took the test and although I didn't score high in my verbal, I definitely improve it.
I passed from a raw score of 25 to 35.
You can read more here: from-610-to-680-improve-in-verbal-knewton-94237.html
Verbal can be worked it out!!
I definitely think that you are going to rock the gmat!
Just keep pushing!
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